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Gary C.
09-07-09, 20:02
And what's your Y and/or mt haplogroup?

My Y haplogroup is commonly referred to these days as R1b-U106*.
At present,I don't fit in any of the subclades,the major one being L-48+.
We have a new Walk The Y project at FTDNA,for searching for new Y SNP's in U106's that are negative for L-48.

My mitochondrial haplogroup is H1*.
H is the most common mito haplogroup amongst Europeans.

I've had 67 Y markers tested by FTDNA,and partial SNP testing.Already had tested + for S21 at EthnoAncestry,and that was confirmed by FTDNA.
Also had HVR1 and HVR2 done by FTDNA.
And also CCR5,where I discovered I do have a 32 base-pair deletion,and also 1 normal copy.
The most recent thing I did was 23andMe.

What about you?

Maciamo
09-07-09, 20:30
Thanks for the idea, Gary. I have added a poll.

Gary C.
09-07-09, 20:50
Thanks Maciamo!!

Chris
10-07-09, 18:50
And what's your Y and/or mt haplogroup?

My Y haplogroup is commonly referred to these days as R1b-U106*.
At present,I don't fit in any of the subclades,the major one being L-48+.
We have a new Walk The Y project at FTDNA,for searching for new Y SNP's in U106's that are negative for L-48.

What about you?

Mine is also R1b U106 L48+. I'm fascinated by this stuff and Maciamo's Y origins etc page is by far the most readable and informative I've found after months of searching:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml

Chris

Gary C.
10-07-09, 20:05
The only thing I'd caution anyone about is this:your Y chromosome has no idea what ethnicity you are.
It has no bearing on anything except for making you a male,and all that goes along with that.
The haplogroups are determined by what should be thought of as 'inheritable packages of SNP's'.There are only around 50 of them,and all human males are going to be a member of one.
The genetic factors that make up traits and characteristics that we perceive as race and ethnicity are not located on the sex-determining chromosomes.They are located on the other 44 chromosomes.
You can be a member of any particular race or ethnicity,and discover that you have a Y or mt haplogroup that you wouldn't expect to have.This can and does happen.Y DNA haplogroup A is found among Bushmen in Africa,and also among some white men named Bass that live in North Carolina.That's not what you'd expect to find among white men,anywhere-but it has happened.
I also have personal knowledge of some black Americans that are in Haplogroup I.That's not what you expect from a black man,anywhere.
In both cases,what must be true is they descend in a direct male line from a man that wasn't a member of their race or ethnicity.They have inherited his Y DNA SNP package-but probably,nothing else remains in their bodies from the man that was their ancestor,except his Y chromosome.They look just like any other typical member of whatever their race or ethnicity is,because the autosomal DNA that is present in the rest of their bodies is the same that is shared by all the members of that race or ethnicity.

Having said all that-because of DNA testing having been carried out in a great many places,we know to EXPECT to see particular Y and mt haplogroups in particular places.And the ones we expect to see,will greatly dominate in the area they are mainly located in.
But you COULD find any haplogroup,anywhere.Their origins pre-date any sort of paperwork method of tracking the people that could have carried them into unexpected places.

Chris
10-07-09, 20:35
The only thing I'd caution anyone about is this:your Y chromosome has no idea what ethnicity you are.
It has no bearing on anything except for making you a male,and all that goes along with that.

That's something I've found from my web 'research'. One source gave a theoretical example of a white male who moves to China, and whose offspring's children are of Chinese women: within 10 generations, the descendents are for all intents and purposes, Chinese.

Chris

Maciamo
11-07-09, 11:54
The only thing I'd caution anyone about is this:your Y chromosome has no idea what ethnicity you are.
It has no bearing on anything except for making you a male,and all that goes along with that.
The haplogroups are determined by what should be thought of as 'inheritable packages of SNP's'.There are only around 50 of them,and all human males are going to be a member of one.
The genetic factors that make up traits and characteristics that we perceive as race and ethnicity are not located on the sex-determining chromosomes.They are located on the other 44 chromosomes.

Y-DNA of course does not define ethnicity. But if all your ancestors come from a same region (e.g. East Anglia, or Wales), knowing the Y-DNA frequency in that region might give you important clues about your own genetic history.

Ancient ethnicities have little to do with modern populations. People in Europe are a heavy admixture of many different ancient peoples represented by the various haplogroups.

As DNA is recombined at every generation, and differently for each child born to the same parents, even siblings do not inherit all the genes from the same ancestors. That's why in some families some children might have brown hair and eyes and others blond hair and blue eyes. This is just for obvious characteristics. 99% of our genome is not clearly visible from outside. You can't know if you are lactose tolerant by looking at a mirror.

Once populations get mixed over many centuries or millennia, all sorts of combinations take place. It is meaningless to talk of an English or French or Spanish ethnicity. What is ethnicity anyway ? Is it defined by looks alone, or by one's immune system, metabolism, or blood sugar level ?

The study of Y-DNA is highly important for our understanding or history and migrations, or even linguistics. Y-DNA does not equal ethnicity, that's for sure, but contrarily to what many people think, the Y-chromosome does influence a little bit a man's character, through testosterone production. It has been reported that members of haplogroup R tend to be more aggressive than other haplogroups. We will see in a few years in such trends can be confirmed or not.

Nasturtium
21-07-09, 00:49
23andme and I've uploaded my raw data to Promethease. I'm J1a*, which I have not seen mentioned here. I know there are some descrepancies between 23andme and their Mtdna results (some at 23andme have gotten conflicting results from multiple sources). I'm new here, and just looking to gleen what I can from my DNA, as my family history is incomplete.