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gashi91
17-02-13, 21:48
Hi! I am new on this forum.
I did my test on iGENEA / FTDNA and the results got like this:
Deep clade is still running, most likely to be L-23. Sub-groups "attached" to western europe are tested negative, that includes celts, italics and germanics. Which left these remaining:

R1b1a2a* - L23
R1b1a2a1* - L150
R1b1a2a1a* - L51

Y-DNA:
Haplogroup - R1b1a2
Ancient tribe: still to be determined
Region of origin: South-East Europe

mt-DNA:
Haplogroup - U
Ancient tribe: Slavs, Ancient peoples of Italy
Region of origin: Eastern Europe

How and when did my ancestors from the R1b get to Albania? (They came to Kosovo maybe 4 generations ago before me). It's hard to tell, I never lived in the Balkans myself.

Eldritch
17-02-13, 22:44
That clade of R1b is particularly common in Balkans so nothing surprising there.
It would be more interestin you exact clade of your MtDna

gashi91
17-02-13, 22:47
Thank you for the reply, but I did not ask if it was surprising or not.

Eldritch
17-02-13, 23:01
Thank you for the reply, but I did not ask if it was surprising or not.
R1b there is thousands of year old.

kamani
18-02-13, 02:46
Hi! I am new on this forum.
I did my test on iGENEA / FTDNA and the results got like this:
Deep clade is still running, most likely to be L-23. Sub-groups "attached" to western europe are tested negative, that includes celts, italics and germanics. Which left these remaining:

R1b1a2a* - L23
R1b1a2a1* - L150
R1b1a2a1a* - L51

Y-DNA:
Haplogroup - R1b1a2
Ancient tribe: still to be determined
Region of origin: South-East Europe

mt-DNA:
Haplogroup - U
Ancient tribe: Slavs, Ancient peoples of Italy
Region of origin: Eastern Europe

How and when did my ancestors from the R1b get to Albania? (They came to Kosovo maybe 4 generations ago before me). It's hard to tell, I never lived in the Balkans myself.

Your subclade is probably a parent clade to most R1b subclades found in western europe, that's why it tested negative compared to them. This means it has been in the balkans at least since 3000-2000 BC. My view is that it is pelazgian. Just curious, from where did your ancestors come to Kosovo?

gashi91
18-02-13, 14:06
Yes, and according to iGENEA I'm native to the Balkans, south-east Europe. That means not Hittite etc.
(Y-DNA) They live in Kosovo, Komuna e Klines, Qabiq. I don't know who came there first, but my grandfather is from Qabiq, also my father.
They came from the North of Albania, If I am not wrong. If it has anything to say, we're European white, light brown hair or blonde hair. Eye color is brown-green, green or blue. Yes, I counted all from the same Y-DNA as I know.

Malsori
18-02-13, 17:46
Your haplogroup is a Balkan sub clade with a peak in Kosovo. It's ancestral clade origin is from East Turkey and Northern Iraq region. It is difficult to determine when it came in Balkans but it was probably latter than EV-13. Perhaps they came in group with J2b2* during late Neolithic times.

And, your Y-DNA has nothing to do with your recent ancestry and how you look.

Btw, you are from Gashi tribe?

gashi91
18-02-13, 21:05
Yes, I am Gashi from a village called Qabiq in Kosovo, it's close to Klina which again is not so far from Peja.

FBS
19-02-13, 11:48
This is interesting, so Gashi may generally be R1b. I have come to conclude that the highlanders are mainly E-V13 (Kelmendi being part of it), J2b2* are mainly the lowlanders. I do not know much about I. Thanks for posting your results gashi91.

gashi91
19-02-13, 13:11
It seems that there is a lot that I dont know. But Kelmendi, do you have any good sources which got you to your conclusions?

Malsori
19-02-13, 15:59
This is interesting, so Gashi may generally be R1b. I have come to conclude that the highlanders are mainly E-V13 (Kelmendi being part of it), J2b2* are mainly the lowlanders. I do not know much about I. Thanks for posting your results gashi91.

Tribes are not formed exclusively from a single haplogroup. I would rather say they are mixed. From where did you conclude that lowlanders are J2b2* highlanders EV-13?

FBS
19-02-13, 16:06
I am sorry that I cannot give you any sources. I have done my researches for 3 years now for myself only, because I found the EV13 very intriguing. I am of Kelmendi tribe myself.

Malsori
19-02-13, 16:12
I am sorry that I cannot give you any sources. I have done my researches for 3 years now for myself only, because I found the EV13 very intriguing. I am of Kelmendi tribe myself.

So, you are saying that there are other Kelmendis and Highlanders tested and all of them are EV-13?

FBS
19-02-13, 18:03
Not all of them, most of them.

FBS
20-02-13, 11:46
Please note that I do not use the absolute expressions, I use "may" or "mostly".

gashi91
25-02-13, 03:17
For those of you whom are Albanian and have done their DNA test on FTDNA:
Join the Albanian DNA Project -- > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Abanian_DNA_Poject/

gashi91
12-03-13, 07:49
Your Haplogroup
Tests Taken


R-L150
M269+ L150+ U106- P312- L51- L23-



Now it's confirmed. My haplogroup is R-L150. What I don't understand is how it managed to make L23- and then L150+.
Unless I got this wrong, it should be more like R1b1a21, because it skips L23, which is the ( a ) in R1b1a2a1.

Luan
06-05-13, 15:11
I'm also R-L150 from Kosova.

gashi91
06-05-13, 19:46
I'm also R-L150 from Kosova.
Great! Check your innbox for Mail. Make sure to join the YDNA project, there is a link some posts above.

Luan
07-05-13, 04:20
Great! Check your innbox for Mail. Make sure to join the YDNA project, there is a link some posts above.
My fathers male side of the family are from The village Morina in Kosovo.

gashi91
26-04-14, 02:55
Checked out FTDNA earlier, and with the new Y-DNA Haplotree my haplogroup is now R1b1a1 (M-73) from R1b1a2a1 (L-150). However, on the 'Haplotree and SNP's' site it says:
Your Confirmed Haplogroup is R-L150
M269+, L150+, L23-, L51-, P312-, U106-, L49-

When I look at my haplogroup on my project page: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Abanian_DNA_Poject/default.aspx?section=ysnp (GASHI) it says: R1b1a1 (R-M73).
What do you guys think?

Silesian
26-04-14, 17:56
Checked out FTDNA earlier, and with the new Y-DNA Haplotree my haplogroup is now R1b1a1 (M-73) from R1b1a2a1 (L-150). However, on the 'Haplotree and SNP's' site it says:
Your Confirmed Haplogroup is R-L150


M269+, L150+, L23-, L51-, P312-, U106-, L49-

When I look at my haplogroup on my project page: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Abanian_DNA_Poject/default.aspx?section=ysnp (GASHI) it says: R1b1a1 (R-M73).
What do you guys think?
I'm totally confused !

I'm in the Bashkir Clans project, even though from Poland, I have somewhat similar str's to Ural, Bashkortostan, Buryjan clans.
group.https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Bashqort_Clans/default.aspx?section=yresults

I don't think R-M73 will hold, let's wait and see how this is explained, probably a error.

gashi91
26-04-14, 22:01
Thank you for the reply. I guess we have to wait. I will ask iGENEA when they are online on monday and share the information I get if relevant.