and I would strongly suggest:
joining (its free) the I-L161-Isles group on Ancestry: http://groups.ancestry.com/group/35649022
or have you already done that? Joshua?
also post whatever genealogy you can on rootsweb (also free): http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
You could also...
New study published March 2013.
Is this a thunderbolt?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23240-the-father-of-all-men-is-340000-years-old.html
http://haplogroup-a.com/Ancient-Root-AJHG2013.pdf
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Does it take h. s. idaltu out of the lineage?
Homo...
I have run into a conundrum and I am looking for a way to resolve it.
Here is the problem: Haplogroup I was founded about 30,000 years ago. Most(?) genetics guys seem to agree that the first group of modern humans to populate Europe were haplogroup I - there seem to be no other candidates...
S____, I appreciate your comments. I am trying to simplify (over-simplify?) something that I don't really know much about as a learning project.
Here is what I am thinking: To avoid over complicating the graphic, I left off the Magdalenian because it was pretty much over. The successors...
At the end of the paloelithic, Hg I subclades were essentially 100% of the population of Europe.
This map shows the approximate locations of the cultures that they had developed at that time.
Previous post-Mousterian cultures: Aurignacian, Gravettian, Solutrian, Magdalenian, etc., which are...
Good. I don't mind differing on speculations, but It is my intention to avoid contradictions with facts. Of the still several things to argue about, do you see any of them as factually incorrect?
That answer gives me a lot to think about, and done nicely too. Thank you, S_____.
L161-east is just me artificially dividing the isles bunch from all the other L161 using an hypothetical STR set for the "Doggerland Patriarch" . I think they are all members of B cluster - or maybe a pre-B...
Thank you. S____ for the excellent comments. I have interspersed my reasoning and questions in between your comments.
OriginallyPosted by L161Timeline
Itis thought that hg I was founded east of the Black Sea about 25,000BC.
Itseems likely that haplogroup I split from IJ east of the Black...
Here is a summary:
L161 may have been founded on the north German plain or near the mouth of the Dneister River on the Black Sea. That founder was an early version of Isles B.
The founding of the other Isles sublades are more easily generalized:
Isles A may be the easiest to locate. There...
For L161, this is a speculative extension of Nordtvedt's hypothesis.
http://ecbiz126.inmotionhosting.com/~danelu5/page2.html
It is a much improved, updated and clarified version of post #1 in this thread.
I would appreciate your thoughts and corrections.
Sparkey has given you excellent info - I only wish to add a couple of things:
How far back does your family tree go? We are talking about a group that has origins - depending on what specifically you are talking about - as far back as 6,000 BC and MRCA 1,500 years or more.
If you are Isles A...
"confident about Doggerland as a foundation place?"
I am not confident that it was founded any particular place.
That location is unknowable, now and probably forever.
But we are not really discussing the unknown location of Mr. L161, the founder, who really could have been back at the mouth...
It is not that I don't like it - it might add some glamour.
But I do not see any data that supports it - only opinions unsupported by data or only supported by hidden data or contradicted by the public data..
"DOES classify I2a2b signatures like mine as Anglo-Saxon if the background is...
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