So from these more reliable date we have: Greek/Thessaly in the exact same cluster with Albanians, also same cluster just a hair further with Greek/Greek Central Macedonia
We know that and we dont want to mix the EEF, ANE and WHG, which are part of autosomal (whole genome - Y DNA)...
Again you are interpreting my thought wrong and you are concluding something I am supposing and which I am not even concluding myself :laughing:
Never said E-V13 expanded from Vinca, at 4500 BC I believe E=V13 was already expanded all around Europe, didnt you say 7000 BC E-V13 is mutated in...
@Angela this seems like Maciamos hypothesis and therefore asked for his additional input...
This might not mean 100% that Dorians major group would be z2103 but definitely something to research about...hypothesis speculation = same lol
@Maciamo can you shed light a bit more on the below...
@Maciamo can you shed light a bit more on the below please?...
1. According to this source your R1b M269-L23 would be the same as R1b-M269 (xL23) ?
2. Here on this study the spread goes from the central Balkans dont know about the timeframe though...you also mention ''This branch of R1b is...
Yes however we are arguing about pre Molossians pre Mycenaean, probably around 4,500 ybp, and not labeling it with any names, it's just E-V13.....Molossians might have descend from E-V13 though (we don't know), we know that E-V13 is pretty high in those areas....
Of course i know, check the Maciamo map i sourced....i doesn't matter if its a bit far because as I noted E-V13 traveled around and spread, they didn't get stuck in one place.
It would make sense that Terramare Culture (Italiy, Sicily, Sardinia) and Illyria at 4,000 ybp had a majority E-V13...
That is Maciamo arguing, we are not talking here by specific names, it said that Terramare Culture (Italiy, Sicily, Sardinia) and Illyria at 4,000 ybp had a majority E-V13
if this is correct that Illyria area was majority E-V13 then surely they have came from either South Greece or even...
Mild clashes as IKE said LOL, so mild that if you see the list i sourced you'll understand, all the highest level state officials found guilty by International Tribunal for ethnic cleansing (genocide) in Bosnia Croatia Kosovo, and now imagine what paramilitary had done, you are right there...
Not Mysterious at all, i think the Greek early Gods were surreally not Hellenized yet, as you mention Zeus has been also referred as Pelasgian.
Maleth check his foot....we know your E-V13 and we already know your foot LOL...
Asius of Samos (Ancient Greek: Ἄσιος ὁ Σάμιος) describes Pelasgus...
Milan, up to now, there is no scientific links between Albanian and Pelazgian language, we dont even know what Pelazgian language is or was....The link here however might be genetical (greek, albanian), language is a different topic and so too genetics.
Turkish Defter you have sourced 1445
You claim total population of 480 villages is 28,000 and in all of them are Serbs 27,000
For every village 56 inhabitants…..average house (5 people), 11 houses for one village
ANY THOUGHTS....?
The map and villages are pretty large, considering the...
Nope, have a closer look, the study includes Sons and Fathers too (all males).
Stepan. Sin Branislava - "Sin" in serbian means "Son" in English
Durad, sin Hrle....etc
So in the Village Maqar: Total 4 males: Sin "son" Branislav, Sin "son" Hrle - And Stepan, Durad.
You think 4...
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