Stuvanè
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Moesan,
I am right-wing, I make no secret of it, and I confirm that these arguments are the tired repertoire of right-wing politicians to appeal to the belly of their electorate (parties currently of little capacity and intellect, which at least in Italy come to power only at the moment in which which they are authorized by higher spheres, and as long as they sweeten or flatten their program and their governmental action).
But exposing or reporting them doesn’t change the reality of the facts.
An Islam problem exists, it is one of history's harsh replies, even if we want to imagine a rosier reality.
The banlieues, with their extraterritorial rules more or less based on sharia, exist.
The gang rapes of young second and third generation non-natives, against native peers or their own group, are daily news, they are a fact, even if they are now classified as local news of less or no interest.
The violence perpetrated in the family by clans, these truly patriarchal ones, towards daughters or sons who intend to emancipate themselves at least constitute another abundant and boring case study that arouses indifference. The European frog is now boiled to perfection.
Then, we can discuss whether reality is tremendously more complex or what the left is today (I agree with what you and Norbert explained). But we have to deal with the current left, or that thing that calls itself generically "left", not with what it was 70-80 years ago. In that political area, they haven't given a damn about proletarian/worker demands for a long time or only remember them when it suits them (incidentally, have they ever really been interested in them in the past or did they act there too?).
Today's left-wing world - but I wouldn't even exclude the older one - identifies and often "creates" the oppressed of the moment who are most electorally convenient to protect, and conversely the oppressive element to be faced and overthrown is also identified (one of the mechanisms in this sense the culture of whining about which Robert Hughes has written intelligent pages is more functional). But the left itself is ready to unload what it once protected, and which now no longer pays off. It did so with the local proletariat decades ago, which still remains poorly represented. It has been doing so in recent months in relation to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. After having accused even the house cat of anti-Semitism for decades to attack the local right-wingers, now - coincidentally - she has become the most fervent spokesperson for the anti-Israeli Palestinian cause. Is it because they have ever really cared about the Palestinians? I doubt it, except in the past for some anti-American/Israeli views. Today the recently re-erupted conflict has mobilized the Islamic communities settled in Europe, and the numerical disproportion between them and the Jewish ones has hastened the left's calculations regarding future vote projections and the electoral basins to be favored. .
It is on the left that non-profit organizations and other organizations that manage the movement of immigrants and refugees are financially subsidized and legally protected. It is on the left (and here in Italy this is pervasive up to high judicial levels) that constant defenses are found to justify or tolerate crimes committed by immigrants or to justify crimes committed in the name of ideologies approved by the intelligentsia. A few months ago in Brescia an acquittal was requested for an immigrant who beat and enslaved his wife, justifying it as a "cultural fact". With all due respect to the rule of law and the laws that should be in force there.
No one doubts that there has been an evolution that has modified (or distorted) the left in the past decades, a process that has monstrously and paradoxically made it organic with the most radical and ferocious capitalism (we will never know whether for convenience or for stupidity, or both).
But at least two elements remained in common with its predecessor model: 1) the control of culture and information, which constantly filters, manipulates, distorts and mystifies reality (they also do it on the right, but they remain crude beginners in comparison of others); 2) internationalism which effectively opposes any initiative or measure of "national"/"local" value. By left today I mean a sort of wealthy progressive oligarchy of a liberal nature (to simplify our lives let's call it "radical-chic"), constantly opposed to the national interests of its own country, perpetually at the service - and sometimes even in the pay - of groups or Foreign countries. From a sociological and psychological point of view, it almost always gathers a group of egotists, self-referential pseudo-cultured narcissists, who pose as an enlightened elite to mask addictions and strange mental complexes/mechanisms of inferiority and hypersocialization. An explosive mix that generates a trend and a vision of the world or totalitarian, religious-like, almost fideistic. All seasoned with a certain dose of immaturity and a lack of sense of reality, because our armchair revolutionaries want to be champions of the most noble and tolerant international humanitarian demands, as long as others take responsibility for them. In Italy we say that these people play gay with other people's asses. It is vulgar but still remains the best and most relevant definition.
And precisely with regard to the last point, it is undeniable that the left likes Islam, and a lot (especially the more reactionary one). There is a common anthropological basis: the constant need to level, homologate, to repress dissent and critical voices, to inculcate everything without debate. What cannot be achieved through so-called secular ways, can be achieved through religious ways.
A perfect wedding, in short, which will be our funeral.
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