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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    Who were these C./N. European like outliers in your opinion? We already know with a good degree of certainty that the aegean/caucasian signal was from people living further south in the peninsula (originally from Greece or Anatolia).
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    Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages

    Call it "MENA" you might as well call it "Claudette", that is not what it is.
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    I'm keeping an open mind and looking forward to seeing what the ancient DNA of the Italic peoples living north to the Picenes will reveal.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Thast should definitely open interesting scenarios for modern Italians carrying that marker.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Of course, I've learnt that the Etruscans were genetically similar to the other IA Italics and many of them were R1b, I just didn't expect (because of what I've read about this subclade of R1b) that any of them, or any other IA Italic for that matter, would come up as U106+. Cool. :)
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    One Etruscan was tested U106+? How interesting, thanks for the information.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Agreed, that also confirms my comment that the percentage of blonds in the Aosta Valley should probably be lower than that shown for Alto Adige.
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    After all it wouldn't look good on them to name one part of the peninsula "Gallia" (Gauls-free or not).
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Of course you're right, what part of northern Italy hasn't after all. Yet the phenotypical difference is quite apparent between native "unmixed" Aostans and South Tyroleans for example, whereas the former's phenotypes blend with much more continuity with their immediate neighbours of Piemonte...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Above 20% looks "generous" for Aosta Valley. Of course it's based only on my personal experience in that region (substantial as it may be), so make of that what you will...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    I see very few Scandinavian looking types (let's say Haaland-like) in northern Italy and most of those very few would probably be confined to Alto Adige. Then again, I see very few Iranian-Anatolian types in northern Italy and I've been reading that this should be one of the main genetic...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    It's curious though, culturally they hadn't to be too different from the already established Ligurians and Lepontii for example.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    I see this often on these fora and I often seem to recognize a pattern, whereas some nationalities like to push this idea more so than others.
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    I see your point and as usual it makes sense to me: no, or very minimal, trace of autosomal DNA does not exclude the survival of a few Y-DNA lineages and that is why it is misleading to infer autosomal composition from uniparental Y-DNA and mtDNA markers. My question before about possibly...
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    How did the ancient Romans turn into Italians ?

    What the hell are you on about?
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    Do you anticipate we could see unexpected results in terms of Y-DNA haplogroups given a sizeable Italic ancient DNA sample? What were they?
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    That doesn't seem to be the case. I'm not even considering the Etruscan results since we are looking only at 4 male individuals. Most Picenes from this study are R1b too (7 out of a grand total of 12...).
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