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  1. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Z280 does seem to be more prominently associated with Baltic speakers, though some of its subclades could've spread with the Proto-Slavs (along with I2a-Din). We are in agreement here.
  2. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    I doubt U106 was a common haplogroup in the Iron Age Celts, especially considering the fact that it was found in one of the Allentoft et al. 2015 Battle Axe samples from Sweden [RISE98].
  3. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    I agree that M458 is a far better fit for the Slavic expansion than Z280, yet to make a Slavic paternal contribution to the Cretan gene pool sound more convincing we'd need to know which subclades of M458 are found in Crete to start with.
  4. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    None of that is conclusive really, and as you said M458 is old enough to have arrived in Crete with the Myceneans. We'll need ancient genomic data from Minoan sites to validate (or invalidate) such theories.
  5. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    If we take into account the fact that Allentoft et al. 2015's BA Armenians are much more European-shifted than modern-day Armenians (and, by extension, Assyrians), there's reason to cast doubt on your first assumption... Care to explain? But again, your approach is too simplistic and fails to...
  6. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Likewise, I could highlight the fact that Aegean populations settled in the Levant since the Middle Bronze Age, and that these people are likely to have carried a component ancestral to Dodecad 10's "North_European" component... As you can see, it can go both ways. At this point, we are in dire...
  7. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Considering Ralph & Coop's 2012 paper, attributing the inflation of the "North_European" component to Germanic in the Italian peninsula doesn't seem very convincing. You might have a point in Greece though, as Slavic admixture obviously occurred in mainland Greece. All I'm saying is that we...
  8. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Again, much of what you wrote here are just bold claims based on contemporary evidence. You could be right, you could be wrong. The fact of the matter is that your approach is too simplistic and fails to take into account other models, for instance claiming that the "North_European" component...
  9. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    You're talking about Dodecad 10, I'm talking about Carmi et al.'s Eastern European component. If we were to compare, I might as well bring up Eurogenes K15's Eastern Euro component, the Ashkenazi average is 5.17% for example (in other words twice as less as what Carmi et al. are proposing)...
  10. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    I'm just going to assume you're trølling, either that or you really lack the basic cognitive skills to comprehend what I'm writing (if that's the case, I suggest you refrain from discussing such topics altogether).
  11. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    IIRC many other ethnic groups from the Levant carry this component in similar amounts, hardly a specifically Jewish quirk.
  12. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    First off, 12% is unusually high, it certainly doesn't fit with the general paucity - and even total absence in many cases - of the Eastern European component in Ashkenazim which we know rather well from past studies and 3rd party analysis. This is the main reason why this claim seems rather...
  13. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Quite so, and yet I doubt they'd come anywhere close to Western Jews (Sephardim + Ashkenazim), rather there's much to bet they'd plot closer to Mizrahi Jews (if anything). But yes, we are in dire need of ancient data to gauge the validity of this theory, even though the odds really aren't...
  14. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    It seems to me you have a problem comprehending what I wrote, I specifically referred to the study on mtDNA ("female DNA") which came up with this figure, and I explicitely told you that it was OVERTURNED by another study on the maternal lineages of PPNB farmers from Syria (= actual...
  15. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Actually, even Eastern European Ashkenazim lack this component, and when they don't they usually have it in tiny amounts... I mean, let's not kid ourselves either, Ashkenazi & Sephardic Jews (especially Turkish and Bulgarian Jews) are a single population from a genetic standpoint, so if there is...
  16. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Considering what we already know about the Caucasus and the Pontic-Caspian steppe's genetic past, I'll be very surprised if Khazars made a major contribution to the Ashkenazi gene pool.
  17. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    I think that's from Carmi et al.'s forthcoming study, if I'm not mistaken. As usual, the problem with such studies is that they draw conclusions going off contemporary data, while in fact the only way we're going to achieve some sort of consensus here is by acquiring ancient genetic data from...
  18. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Again, this study was overturned by Fernandez et al. 2014's re-analysis of Syrian PPNB remains, and I won't even bother quoting the supplemental data where the authors contradict their own conclusions.
  19. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Did you not read what I just wrote? Over 80% of Jewish patrilineages come from the Near East, furthermore the claim that Jewish mtDNA is "heavily European" was popularised by a 2013 study by Costa et al. which was subsequently overturned by Fernandez et al. 2014's re-analysis of PPNB remains...
  20. Semitic Duwa

    Jewish people, where they are from?

    Over 80% of AJ patrilineages come from the Near East, and that's a minimalist estimate since a more realistic estimate brings us closer to 90%, and the study you are invoking here (Costa et al. 2013) was overturned by Fenandez et al. 2014's re-analysis of PPNB remains from Syria, and I won't...
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