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Patterson et. al. (2022) documents ancient human DNA sample I13758 as R-L2. According to Alex Williamson (Alex column; Celtic yDNA spreadsheet) and Dr. David K. Faux (updated paper on "The Presence of Y-DNA Haplogroup R-U152 in Britain": Amended: 18 Nov. 2022); Sample I13758 is positive for...

My question deals with the etymogy of the word Armarium. Modern translations centre around the translation of the term 'cupboard' or armario. I have however no interest in the modern translation or popular understanding but rather in the more obscure and seemingly medieval or even ancient...

Four descendants of Edward III have been tested with 3 testing u152+ and one, Richard III, or what are assumed to have been his remains, testing positive for haplogroup G. If I understand correctly, the three U152+ individuals are still living and stem from different branches of Edward III.

http://globalfamilyreunion.com/king-richard-iii-dna/

male line descendants of Edward III via John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (1744–1803) are U152 xL2,Z36,Z56,M126,M160,Z192. http://globalfamilyreunion.com/king-richard-iii-dna

There is definitely a debate surrounding the theory that the Lombards were from Scania. It seems more plausible that the Lombards were from around Eastern Bavaria and Austria as there appears to have been a strong alliance between the Lombards and Bavarians at some stages during history...

I see, the Veneto region includes South-Tyrol if I am not mistaken i.e. Belluno (Cadore). The border became quite porous during the Austro-Hungarian Empire. East-Bavarian sounds right! Paul the Deacon referred to the Bavarians who sang the Lombard Alboin, a foreign tragic-heroic king (Paul the...

Very interesting, thank-you for pointing this out. I naturally assumed it being Franco-Provencal that it would have Germanic influence, so it has none.

I too think that R1b-U106 is a Lombard marker. Is there a trace of the language from Scania or any Germanic influence in the Milanese dialect?

This is bullying and intimidation. Nobody should be ridiculed like this on a public forum.

Lombard is not Italian, it is a word that is accepted in every language to be of Germanic origin. Langobardi/Longobardi is simply a corruption of the same word because the early authors and people of Italy corrupted the word. Later generations were more literate and realized that Lombard should...

The Lombards may have been ruling Italy in the 6th century but it is a real possibility that they used disgruntled Gauls who were unhappy with the Roman occupation of their lands and forced military service and taxes. The border with France and the border with Austria and perhaps Switzerland...

The English language is not at fault, trust me on this. Lombard has always been Lombard in any language. Langobardi is a poor rendition of the word that refers to the Germanic Lombards. A corruption of the correct term 'Lombard'. The question is why would one need to corrupt a perfectly...

Please keep this thread separate Angela, thanks for offering to merge them but I think this discussion is slightly different. I have noticed a belief (if one can call intuitive science that) that Germanic DNA exists when enough commmercial testing has been done to disprove such a thesis...

The major centres of the Lombards in Sicily, called historically Oppida Lombardorum, are where one finds dialects that can still be heard today. In San Fratello, some linguists have suggested that the Gallo-Italic dialect present today has Franco-Provençal as its basis, having been a fort...

The Franco-Provençal language, a distinct from French language that shares features of both French and Provençal. This is different to the Provencal dialect which is very different and not applicable to our discussion. This Franco-Provençal is also referred to as Arpitan or Romand. It is...

The genetic differences between the Longobardi (Cisalpine Italians) and Lombard (Germanic) population in Italy is confusing as the Lombard rulers of say Sicily encouraged the migration of Longobardi (not Lombards) who spoke Lombardic (Gallo-Italian). Therefore, the Germanic R1a and I yDNA groups...

Hence the fact that some linguists have suggested that the Gallo-Italic dialect known as Lombardic has Provençal as its basis. The overarching sense of the term Lombard within Italy appears then to have been geographical and political rather than ethnic.

Do you think it may have been pre-Gallic U152 that crossed into Lombardy, or perhaps over time ... as would be suggested by the following wikipedia article on the Gauls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauls That would help make possible sense of the amount of U152 in Brittain (Normans)? And...

Let me approach the question differently, seeing as it is quite a sensitive issue and seems to make some individuals rather defensive. Does the term Lombard in Italy (or similar context) refer to: 1. The Lombard peoples from Northern Europe (Germanic). 2. The people in Lombardia, Italy. 3. The...