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Thanks a lot ! Do you have the gedmatch numbers of all these Venetians ? I have only 3 venetians, im very interested in that part of Italy.

Are you from Veneto ? Could you post your K15 results

And what makes you think that Tunisians can't have european ancestry, even if pre-neolithic ? Why do you think in North-Africa there is mtDNA H1, H3, V which is of European origin ? Plus Sardinians are ethnically european, even if geographically they are an Island in the middle of the...

In France : Hérault (Languedoc) 2.4 % Rhône (Lyonnais) 4.4 % Vendée and Vienne (Poitou) 0.8 % Calvados and Seine-Maritime (Normandy) 1.8 % Somme (Picardie) 1.3 % France Miscellanea 0.6 % Scotland 0.1 % England 0.7 % Great Britain 0.9 % North-Germany and Denmark 0.7 %

This person is lying for some strange reason. It's not 19/686, it's 0/686 for L and M, and it is perfectly visible on the study as you can see in the table below, plus in the original study the Other for Spain is 2.8% but for Europe is 7.6% : Plus the Other for Spain is 2.8% but for Europe...

Georgians lighter than spaniards ? That's imposible. There was even a study about skintone and spaniards were as light as other West-Europeans.

Germans, British, Orcadians, Dutch, etc have all over 20% mediterranean. North-Italians have over 50%. Is imposible to not be a european component.

You are only looking at y-dna. See their mtDNA.

We are not talking about haplogroups here, but autosomal. The peak is in Europe (North-Italians, Sardinians). The Mediterranean presence in North-Africa is due to ancient european influx (that why there is also mtDNA H1, H3, V in North-Africa). This is not about haplogrops. Is about the...

Georgia is only 30% european, yet Spain is over 90% like the rest of Europe. You don't get it, saying that West-Asia is closer to Africa doesn't imply having african admixture.

You are confusing haplogroups with autosomal dna again. For example, Lithuania has 40% of haplogroup N, yet they are genetically very close to the Polish, who have only 1% of N !! You see now. Western-European and East-Europeans are the closest to each other by far, not with West-Asians, who are...

In that link these are not Iberians, these are Basques. Spaniards are much closer to East-Europeans than West-Asians are, by far. See now this phylogenetic tree, the Iberians are in the same branch as the East-Europeans, while Georgians ARE NOT ...

False, because Basques and Sardinians are very homogeneus and isolated populations. But Iberians are closer to East-Europeans than Georgians are. For example, in this table, the Spaniards are closer to Russians than the Adygei ( a caucasus population, which are part of Russia) :

Btw in this other table the Georgians are closer to Mozabite (North-Africans) than Basques or Sardinians (mediterranean) are, despite geographical distances : http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/04/gene-flow-stops-at-gibraltar-mostly/

Correct. Many studies talk about the genetic barrier of Gibraltar. For example, Andalusia which is right next to Gibraltar, showed about 1.6% of north-african E-M81 while France had 3.5%. Other studies : Discover Magazine : Gene Flow stops at Gibraltar...

From what I've read, spaniards at 23andMe score even a higher similarity with Central-Asians than with North-Africans. Definately the mediterranean sea has acted as a genetic barrier.

I think you are getting confused. Nobody is saying that Georgians or other Caucasus have african admixture. What we say is that the West-Asian component in it's pure form (100% west-asian, Georgians are about 72%) is closer to Paleo-African than the Mediterranean component, but still notice that...

Yes, of course. Jews are genetically very similiar to South-Italians and Greeks. While Basques are very different, they are almost 100% european,

Please, calm down. It's from PhD Dr. Doug McDonald, a university professor. But if you don't like it, there are others from Dodecad or Eurogenes : http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1747/fwesteurasia12.gif http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/West_Central_Eurasia.png...

You are mixing haplogroups with autosomal. Please, get your facts straight. People of Caucasus are much closer to middle-easterns than to East-Europeans. In fact, Georgians cluster with Irianians and Turks, as you can see in many autosomal plots.