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there is a noteable correlation in spreads of R1a and Q on the maps below...
do you think it is coincidence of spreads taking same paths or there is a real link in two spreads...
for me it suggests that Q was incorporated by R1a population in Ukraine area and has spread from there to several directions throughout the history:
1) to Baltic, along Baltic to south part of Scandinavia and to north most coastal areas of Germany
2) from 1) to south France
3) to Kurdish areas and Syria (this wave I relate to bronze age collapse and "sea peoples")
note that the assumption above suggests that relative absence of Q in south Slavic countries indicates that they do not origin from Ukraine area... in fact this is further enforced with I2a Din south typical for south Slavs not being found in Ukraine except in its most northwest corner....
similar holds for west Slavs...relatively low Q indicates they do not origin from Ukraine, which is further enforced with R1a- M458 being more rare in Ukraine....
point is this indicates that west Slavs east Slavs and south Slavs seems to have quite different ancestry......which contradicts linguistic approaches that suggest a sudden expansion from a single area based on the observation that the difference between Slavic languages is not really significant.... what do you think about it?
do you think it is coincidence of spreads taking same paths or there is a real link in two spreads...
for me it suggests that Q was incorporated by R1a population in Ukraine area and has spread from there to several directions throughout the history:
1) to Baltic, along Baltic to south part of Scandinavia and to north most coastal areas of Germany
2) from 1) to south France
3) to Kurdish areas and Syria (this wave I relate to bronze age collapse and "sea peoples")
note that the assumption above suggests that relative absence of Q in south Slavic countries indicates that they do not origin from Ukraine area... in fact this is further enforced with I2a Din south typical for south Slavs not being found in Ukraine except in its most northwest corner....
similar holds for west Slavs...relatively low Q indicates they do not origin from Ukraine, which is further enforced with R1a- M458 being more rare in Ukraine....
point is this indicates that west Slavs east Slavs and south Slavs seems to have quite different ancestry......which contradicts linguistic approaches that suggest a sudden expansion from a single area based on the observation that the difference between Slavic languages is not really significant.... what do you think about it?