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Wrong.
As Alexander Stipcevic, a great historian of illyrians from Croatia, said that Taulants are related to albanian word Dallendyshe (swallow), and Helidon in ancient greek means (swallow), it is clear that Helidones is Exonim, translation of Taulant into hellenic language.
There is no such thing as greek in illyrian lands.
Even there are exonims of Latins, for example, Pirustae- Dardans, Triballi-tricornensi etc.
We must open our eyes, the history is not game, to play with it.
Taulanti are on map much more south than Chelidoni, so it is not likely same tribe...
but there is other thing - the name of the tribe ends on -don which indicates potentially Celtic people... now Serdi are also Celtic so it makes sense that they travelled together with Chelidoni... and Caladuni in Iberia are I think Celtic as well...and Scots gaelic self name Albanah reminds on Albanoi tribe that were as I remember also Celtic till recently wikipedia made them illyrian...
so guess it was very fasionable to be Celtic....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IllyriusAccording to the Library and Epitome of Apollodorus, Illyrius was the youngest son of Cadmus and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[1] Illyrius was specifically born during an expedition against the Illyrians on the side of the Encheleans.[2]
[edit]Polyphemus and Galatea
According to the Illyrian Wars of Appian, Illyrius was the son of the Cyclops Polyphemus and his wife Galatea with siblings Celtus and Galas. The children of Polyphemus all migrated from Sicily and ruled over the peoples named after them, the Celts, the Illyrians, and the Galatians.[3] This particular genealogy was most likely composed by the ancient Greek founders of Epidamnus (Corinthians and Corcyrans) and preserved in Appian's work.[4]
Galatians is same as Celts
so Illyrians might have been Celtic people as well...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IllyriusProgeny
Illyrius had six sons and three daughters whose names were associated with specific tribes:[5]
Sons
Encheleus (Εγχελέα) of the Enchelaeae
Autarieus (Αυταριέα) of the Autariates
Dardanus (Δάρδανον) of the Dardani
Maedus (Μαίδον)
Taulas (Ταυλαντά) of the Taulantii
Perrhaebus (Περραιβόν) of the Perrhaebi
[edit]Daughters
Partho (Πάρθω) of the Partheni
Daortho (Δαορθώ) of the Daors
Dassaro (Δασσαρώ) of the Dassaretae
[edit]Grandsons
Pannonius or Paeon (son of Autarieus) of the Pannonians
[edit]Greatgrandsons
Scordiscus (son of Pannonius) of the Scordisci
Triballus (son of Pannonius) of the Triballi
now, Pannonians I relate to early spread of I2 in Illyria...as they are the people who settled Illyria after it was depopulated by Dacians...
Triballi are name used by some Byznatine authors for Serbs
Scordisci and Serdi are same people just Celtic and Thracian version of tribal name.... now link with Iberia suggests..
btw. looking at map Illyrian Scirtari tribe may be the origin of self-designation of Albanians (Shqiptari)