Male rape

[Arch]

lets see how much you laugh when bubba tears you open or when some chick drugs you and gives you HIV.. it'll be a blast...

errrr... go kill some pigeons !

[Brooker]

chiquiliquis wrote....

Well, there was a famous case not too long ago in Washington State of a J.H.S. teacher that was having sexual relations with one of her 13 year old students (a boy); I believe that was at the very least statutory rape... but I don't recall what charges were made against her. At the time of her arrest she was pregnant with his child, and claimed to be in love with him.

Mary Kay Latourneau (sp?).
She's been in jail for years, but she's getting out soon. She actually managed to have two kids with the boy. His family also filed a civil suit against the school district.

At the time, I got mad at people who said in WASN'T rape because I knew they were only saying that because the perpetrator was a women (and a rather attractive one, actually), and that's such a double standard. If a male teacher impregnated a yound female student (twice!), even if it was consentual, there'd be hell to pay. I was glad she got jail time, because it was rape. It doesn't have to be forced for it to be rape.

[Bounty Hunter]

errrr... go kill some pigeons !

am pretty sure that was surposed to be to me and you quoted the wrong person.

cause why would Mac shoot pigeons not that i do.

chiquiliquis wrote....


Mary Kay Latourneau (sp?).
She's been in jail for years, but she's getting out soon. She actually managed to have two kids with the boy. His family also filed a civil suit against the school district.

At the time, I got mad at people who said in WASN'T rape because I knew they were only saying that because the perpetrator was a women (and a rather attractive one, actually), and that's such a double standard. If a male teacher impregnated a yound female student (twice!), even if it was consentual, there'd be hell to pay. I was glad she got jail time, because it was rape. It doesn't have to be forced for it to be rape.

I think its so stupid when that happens.

Women want equal rights all the time so why not get the equal law side of it.

[chiquiliquis]

If a male teacher impregnated a young female student (twice!), even if it was consentual, there'd be hell to pay. I was glad she got jail time, because it was rape. It doesn't have to be forced for it to be rape.

*hands brooker the "name that rapist" award for his excellent knowledge current events*

... ouch... that sounds worse than I mean for it too (no one take offense, plz).

But yeah... re: above... perhaps that is why I brought it up. The Latourneau case was one that made many of us reconsider our "classical" conceptions of rape. Not only was the perpetrater a woman, but her victim was underaged. Your comment about "had she been a man" is absolutely true--which ties into Hitman's statement. However, I'm don't recall Latourneau herself trying to dismiss responsibility on the basis of her sex; rather, she flat out claimed to be in love with the boy.

Do you know what came of the boy (Brooker, or anyone else)?

[kirei_na_me]

Do you know what came of the boy (Brooker, or anyone else)?

He and his mother are raising those two children and the last I heard, he was waiting for Mary Kay to get out of prison so that they could resume their relationship. He claims he's still in love with her.

For those who don't know who we're talking about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau

[chiquiliquis]

He and his mother are raising those two children and the last I heard, he was waiting for Mary Kay to get out of prison so that they could resume their relationship. He claims he's still in love with her.

For those who don't know who we're talking about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau

Wow... the affair even gets it's own encyclopedia entry... not to mention all the made for TV garbage...

But, the kid is what?--20 now?

With any rape victim I would expect there to be some long lasting (and very serious) effects... regardless of whether he consented, he was 13 at the time--that has to mean something.

I am curious to know, given that he is a man (now), if he has had access to the same resources and support that we normally would provide to female victims of rape. Or, rather... let me put it this way: how well is our society (or any, for that matter) equiped to deal with the anomily of "male-rape". What support, if any, is offered? Or is the traditional support system unable to accomodate these anomilies. I'm sure the boy was sent to a psychiatrist... but what did that count for, in the end?

[Brooker]

chiquiliquis wrote....

*hands brooker the "name that rapist" award for his excellent knowledge current events*

What can I say, I work in TV news. I'm the media!!

he also wrote....

However, I'm don't recall Latourneau herself trying to dismiss responsibility on the basis of her sex; rather, she flat out claimed to be in love with the boy.

Yeah, I don't think Latourneau herself ever tried to get any special treatment because she was a woman, but people debating the subject seemed to. She STILL claims that she loves the guy, but that's the same defense a lot of child molesters make. Also, she was married and (I think) already had a few kids at the time of her first offense. Truly nuts.

From what I hear, the boy is having a lot of difficulties raising the two kids *go figure*. I feel sorry for everyone involved (the boy, his parents, the TWO KIDS who have to live with this strange situation), except her, because it's a situation she created.

[TimF]

This may be a little off the topic of the leturneo case but at this school close to where I used to live i knew this kid that was in a sport (football or soccer i cant remember which) and the guys from his team held him down and took turns rapeing him and beating him and then when he got home he shot himself beacuse he could not live with it. And someone also mentioned the services for someone that was raped by a women if they would be equal to that of a woman being raped by a man and i kew another kid that his aunt had raped him and then he got help and they had to put him in a group full of female rape victims beacuse his case was a rare one and the females mocked him and ridiculed him for what had happened to him telling him that "Your pain could noway be simular to a womans" and stuff of that sort the kid was an outcast of a therapy group i mean how mean is that! Anyway he quit going beacuse they harassed him too much and he dealt with it in individual therapy that costed him a fortune.

[Golgo_13]

How awful.


If only people with perfectly functioning hands could control their sexual urges.

[sbv0001]

@Arch, you only need to google a bit:

"Welcome to the world of Aids."

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...0983341497B265
http://www.pottymouth.org/wetspot/wetspot084.html
http://www.ncweb.com/org/rapecrisis/malerape.html
http://www.menweb.org/throop/rape/studies/biblio.html

I really am covinced you would enjoy this scenario:
A sexy longhaared lady with big boobs sitting on you chest and playing around with her knife at your throat - while the others hold you down or enjoy themselves with your little friend?!?!
The dream of a man coming true???????

:-(

I think you would have better thought twice before going near your keyboard!!

[TwistedMac]

am pretty sure that was surposed to be to me and you quoted the wrong person.

cause why would Mac shoot pigeons not that i do.

it's an msn conversation me and arch had and i wasnt supposed to shoot them, i was supposed to wring their necks

This may be a little off the topic of the leturneo case but at this school close to where I used to live i knew this kid that was in a sport (football or soccer i cant remember which) and the guys from his team held him down and took turns rapeing him and beating him and then when he got home he shot himself beacuse he could not live with it. And someone also mentioned the services for someone that was raped by a women if they would be equal to that of a woman being raped by a man and i kew another kid that his aunt had raped him and then he got help and they had to put him in a group full of female rape victims beacuse his case was a rare one and the females mocked him and ridiculed him for what had happened to him telling him that "Your pain could noway be simular to a womans" and stuff of that sort the kid was an outcast of a therapy group i mean how mean is that! Anyway he quit going beacuse they harassed him too much and he dealt with it in individual therapy that costed him a fortune.

.<--- behold the amazing dot!
paragraphs, use paragraphs tim... this is all one long text.
i somehow cant breathe in when i read it because it has no pauses.
poor kid though..

[Arch]

@Arch, you only need to google a bit:

"Welcome to the world of Aids."

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...0983341497B265
http://www.pottymouth.org/wetspot/wetspot084.html
http://www.ncweb.com/org/rapecrisis/malerape.html
http://www.menweb.org/throop/rape/studies/biblio.html

I really am covinced you would enjoy this scenario:
A sexy longhaared lady with big boobs sitting on you chest and playing around with her knife at your throat - while the others hold you down or enjoy themselves with your little friend?!?!
The dream of a man coming true???????

:-(

I think you would have better thought twice before going near your keyboard!!

wtf are you on about ? if you dint relise already it was a joke. So dont be telling me this BS your saying now/

[Frank D. White]

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Uncle Frank

[RockLee]

I'm Admin's little helper hehe...I spy around for angry and heated ppl...no seriously...I don't think they need me at all..Jei has some kind of 6th sense for trouble ....whenever someone is being a burden..*POOF* he's there !!!

[sbv0001]

@Arch
Tztztz....

Ok then. At least you�ve got a really rare sort of humour......

[Arch]

Yes, but you dint relise what people were saying to me saying that i have AIDS ! oh yea thats really funny. The way some people treat me is disgraceful, really what have i ever done to cause any harm or offence to anyone on this forum. I tried to be as nice as possible to everyone, but alot of people just seem to have something against me.

[Glenn]

Yes, but you dint relise what people were saying to me saying that i have AIDS ! oh yea thats really funny. The way some people treat me is disgraceful, really what have i ever done to cause any harm or offence to anyone on this forum. I tried to be as nice as possible to everyone, but alot of people just seem to have something against me.

Hmm, I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. No one said that you have AIDS.

By the way, you don't think that this statement had anything to do with it?

lol just the notation of male rape makes me laugh all over the floor !!

[Arch]

ok whatever, but i dont want people bringing this back up like sbv did. A simple joke, and people make out i was the only person who joked about it on this thread. IF you lokk through they is much more people making jokes. geez why i bother. I put it to rest here.

lol i think someone gave me a bed rep point, cos it was red ?? lol no comment and not even a name. Big hard man i see.

[Brooker]

@Arch....
I gave you the negative rep point.

Mary Kay Latourneau is being released from prison this Wednesday morning.

[Bounty Hunter]

This is like one of the worst places on the forum to be joking around.

Serious talk.

So if you don't have anything serious to say then don't say anything, its as simple as that.

[Arch]

lol k... no need to start bringing up again.... hitman-X

[Golgo_13]

Mary Kay Latourneau is being released from prison this Wednesday morning.

I wonder what would have happened if it had been a male teacher who impregnated a femal student.

For committing the same crime, females get off easier.

[Brooker]

She got 7 years in jail. After her first sentencing, she met with the boy and got pregnant again and that lengthened her sentence. Perhaps a male would have gotten a longer sentence, I don't know.

[byp]

Someone could be slipped certain blue pills too, I guess.

blue pills are out, they are not efficient enough, take too long to act / react, and as it is said, the men would have enough time to flee if he did not agree to be "raped".
There are much better solutions, some are certain drugs easilly bought (carefull...!!! not all or just anything) that will have a most relaxing effect, a little bit like wine without dizzyness or headaches, that will put one's mind so much in confidence, then it's up to the girl to be persuasive and if a woman really WANTS TO rape a man in this condition, she will be in good mood to do things ( like use every part of her body) that will have terrific reaction on the male's body.
nothing to it.

Now, as for a woman raping a man without chemicals or external help, if the guy dont agree, I see it as extremely difficult, even impossible. Since 80% of a man's "hard manhood" comes from the head, if the head says no, the results could be extremely disappointing for the lady (if we can call a female rapist a lady...). One can argue that oral stimulation (or other expert stimulation) can do wonders. This is partly true and / or will be true to younger ones in their teens, but not so much to UNWILLING (and I strongly stress this word) adults since MIND OVER "MATTER" will dictate the rules ! However if she succeeds, that mean the guy is partly willing and in that case it's not rape anymore...
so for the judges, it's a bit difficult to say...
now if I find myself with say 6 or 7 J-girls, all wanting to rape me ( what ? oh, yes, I DO have extremely wild dreams....) I would tend to agree... So much for rape....

[Brooker]

byp wrote....

However if she succeeds, that mean the guy is partly willing and in that case it's not rape anymore...

This is a very dangerous point to make because many male rapists make this claim about their victims, "After a while she stopped struggling and seemed to enjoy it, so it wasn't rape." I don't buy that at all.