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  • Homosexuality is unnatural and a sin and should be criminalized (not just marriage)

    3 3.00%
  • Homosexuality is unnatural and a sin and gay marriage or civil unions shouldn't be allowed

    5 5.00%
  • Gay marriages shouldn't be allowed, but civil unions are ok

    5 5.00%
  • I don't mind gays but gay marriage should not be allowed as it'd change the meaning of marriage

    11 11.00%
  • Homosexuality cannot be seen as immoral as it is inborn and not a matter of personal choice

    23 23.00%
  • I strongly dislike gays, but think they should have the same rights as anybody else

    0 0%
  • I'm a bit uneasy about gays, but gay rights should be protected in a free society

    12 12.00%
  • I feel comfortable with gays and think gays should have the exact same rights as anybody

    65 65.00%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavroche View Post
    The principal is to compare the speech of each group:
    The gays say: "we want a normal life, like heteros"
    The homosphobes say: "Gays don't have the right to live a normal life like heteros"

    Wich group is the most intolerant?

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    What people say is not important, ask yourself what they need.

    If you can answer a homophobe's or a homosexual's need you soon find the argument stops immediately. When people feel not listened to they tend to shout from the rooftops. Shouting is aggressive and disrespectful, it results in similar behavior from opposing sides.

    There is an irrationality in what fanatical homophobes and homosexual groups express, namely that they feel they will only be satisfied once the extreme opposition accepts their views, this is the view of both sides, hence the argument rages on relentlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavroche View Post
    But tolerance is a human value...

    Like xenophobia?
    I agree, we don't have the same values and i'm glad of it...
    Xenophobia is a too much radical word here, it can't be used. If a group of neo-Nazis gathered together, armed by sticks and iron bars and went to beat the homosexualists then they can be called as "intolerant xenophobes" etc... But nobody can hang such "labels" on ordinary people who simply resent seeing the spread of homosexual values in society.

    Tolerance is too, the ambiguous word. If a mosquito just flying around and don't touch me and I don't touch him then we are tolerant to each other. But when the mosquito sits on my hand and tries to bite then any tolerance is over. Tolerance in this case turns into a self-masochism.



    Tolerance is needed for the coexistence of different groups within the country, but it should be built on mutual respect otherwise it makes no sense.

    Also I think that the grow of homosexual tendencies in the western countries is connected with furious feminism since 60s. The females in the west had only one way to get more or less the same rights as males - the way of public protests and struggle for rights on the wave of mass enthusiasm about liberalism and fighting against racism. But at some point the feminist activist-careerists crossed an invisible red line, they started too fiercely oppress their own men. As a result the grow of "feminine boys", gays, lesbians, manlike-amazon type of females etc... That's abnormal imbalances inside of society, very dangerous thing.
    In Russia communists in 20s established gender equality according to their "homogeneous classless society" ideology by fiat, it was even slightly pro-female. For example if the family is divorced then children stayed with mother, Soviet power was on the side of the mother; If a woman has committed a crime then she received less punishment than a male for similar crime, plus communist general equalization system etc... That tradition for 70 years of communism firmly entered into our life and we had not that feminist mood in 60s.

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    I have no problem with homosexuality, as long as it doesn't become compulsory.

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