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    Greatest Israeli/Jewish contributions to the world



    Greatest Israeli/Jewish contributions

    Judaism- predecessor of Christianity.

    Christianity- an offshoot of Judaism and that began in Israel. Jesus Christ was born Jewish since his mother is also a Jew. Twelve Apostles were Jewish. So was Paul.

    Modern banking and finance

    Jewish people or people of Jewish descent such as philosophers, scientists, social thinkers, artists, statesmen, etc including Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Sigmund Freund, Rothschilds, etc have helped shape the world that it is today.

    Holy Bible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel
    Greatest Israeli/Jewish contributions
    You open up a new can of worms here. Now I see a whole bunch of new threads coming with the topic "Greatest contribution of this or that religion. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossel
    You open up a new can of worms here. Now I see a whole bunch of new threads coming with the topic "Greatest contribution of this or that religion. "
    I think it's almost an obession.
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    The problem with religion is the question is ussually more awnserable when it is asked as: "what has religion done wrong, negetive and bad for the world?", its no secret history is peppered with a depressingly large number of holy wars or otherwise religious inspired hatred, intolerence, violence and descrimination.

    As such i wouldnt miss this thread if it was locked.

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    As much as I share the same fears as Nurizeko ...

    I just have to throw in:

    Lox and Bagels!

    (Cultural - not religious ...)

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    I've been wondering about that third option "modern banking and finance" isn't that like saying that Jewish people are good with money, and wouldn't that be a stereotype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma Cherie
    I've been wondering about that third option "modern banking and finance" isn't that like saying that Jewish people are good with money, and wouldn't that be a stereotype?
    Yes ... it is a stereotype.

    But, is it one to be ashamed of? Is it derogatory?

    I tend to think not. Go for it.

    (Actually - a lot of modern banking could be attributed to the Scots! Now, there's a folk who are really mean ....... )

    I now await the 'flak'!

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    Jews provided us with Judaism, another organized religion which keeps people in line that need a scripture to tell them right from wrong (as opposed to just coming to them naturally). I feel the same about any organized religion. I have nothing against "the big three" religions. They're just not for me, though I still believe in God.

    Israel, however, hasn't contributed much in modern times other than zionism, death, eviction, sadness and a hand which moves Bush's jaw up and down.

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    I would pose a question, a serious question, what has Islam contributed to the world that has been of ANY value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyllgi View Post
    I would pose a question, a serious question, what has Islam contributed to the world that has been of ANY value.
    If you mean Islam the religion, not much that can be viewed as positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria Red View Post
    If you mean Islam the religion, not much that can be viewed as positive.
    Yes, that's what I mean and I can't think of a single thing it has delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyllgi View Post
    Yes, that's what I mean and I can't think of a single thing it has delivered.
    The "contributions" have essentially been negative...

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    I can't think of any contribution from Islam nor Judaism,

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    HaTaNaKH.

    I voted for Yahadut itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semitic Duwa View Post
    HaTaNaKH.
    Funnily enough I窶况e got a copy of Plaut窶冱 commentary alongside a copy of the Tanakh beside me.

    OK, I know that if you窶决e 窶廡rummer窶 you might not be too happy with Plaut, but it窶冱 just the one that窶冱 on my desk right now.

    And no, I窶冦 not Jewish, in fact I窶冦 an Atheist but once was a minister of the Baptist church before 窶徭eeing the light窶.

    I agree with your sentiment though, Judaism窶冱 greatest gift to mankind was Judaism and for a variety of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyllgi View Post
    Funnily enough I窶况e got a copy of Plaut窶冱 commentary alongside a copy of the Tanakh beside me.

    OK, I know that if you窶决e 窶廡rummer窶 you might not be too happy with Plaut, but it窶冱 just the one that窶冱 on my desk right now.

    And no, I窶冦 not Jewish, in fact I窶冦 an Atheist but once was a minister of the Baptist church before 窶徭eeing the light窶.

    I agree with your sentiment though, Judaism窶冱 greatest gift to mankind was Judaism and for a variety of reasons.

    Indeed, it was a good way of transmitting fundamental morals given that three religions stem from HaYovel shelanu.

    If it hadn't existed I ust would've voted for personnalities given that I'm quite fond of Freud's analysis....BTW: Plaut's fine

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    You see I utterly reject the almost universally held belief that Islam is Abrahamic,

    I, and now increasingly a few others believe, no,we state that Islam is the invention of a man who used parts of pre-existing religions to cobble together something that suited his ambitions which were and remain appropriate for his needs and desires in his land in his time.

    The claim that Islam is the logical extension of Christianity and Judaism is utterly false.

    In fact the Koran is riddled with errors relating to Judaism, and from a true Christian perspective it is quite simply heretical and blasphemous.

    Christianity I do agree is pretty much 窶徊oined at the hip窶 with Judaism and could be interpreted as expanding the haftarah and much else to create a sect that was far less exclusive as well as in other ways as are rather obvious.

    Islam on the other hand is a land apart. The attributes given to their god sets it so far aside from G-d as to make any claims of anything other ludicrous.

    On top of that the nature of behaviour recommended and to such a huge extent directed is totally at odds with Christianity let alone with Judaism as to make any one comparing and contrasting the TRUE Abrahamic religions with it reject the idea in very short order.

    No, sorry but your assertion that Islam derives from HaYovel shelanu is a thing I must deny.

    Islam exploits that thing which led to the Promised Land and that thing which emerged within the Promised Land, but in absolutely no way does it do anything other than steal parts of both, corrupts what it has stolen, and use it as a claim to (in)fame.

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    Well, I suppose that's why Muhammad got rid of the Jewish tribes which protected him at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel View Post
    Greatest Israeli/Jewish contributions

    Judaism- predecessor of Christianity.

    Christianity- an offshoot of Judaism and that began in Israel. Jesus Christ was born Jewish since his mother is also a Jew. Twelve Apostles were Jewish. So was Paul.

    Modern banking and finance

    Jewish people or people of Jewish descent such as philosophers, scientists, social thinkers, artists, statesmen, etc including Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Sigmund Freund, Rothschilds, etc have helped shape the world that it is today.

    Holy Bible
    But discounting Christianitry what has any of that got to do with Judaism per se?

    Even Christianity, what has that delivered that is 100% down to the religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyllgi View Post
    But discounting Christianitry what has any of that got to do with Judaism per se?

    Even Christianity, what has that delivered that is 100% down to the religion?

    Christianity is an extremely liberalized and adaptable form of Sectarian Judaism.

    No more, no less.

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    Does this strictly-speaking belong on this forum?

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    Why not?

    It explores the European perspective of a subject.

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    The modern State of Israel.

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    I really congratulate myself that this world campaign of assesination of the Muslim religion, arrives to Latin America in a very diluted, indirect manner.

    Hate brings nothing good.

    And least of all, when it is an orquestated "multidimentional" propaganda, aimed to justify the unjustifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyllgi View Post
    and from a true Christian perspective it is quite simply heretical and blasphemous.

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    yeah, that definitely sounds like a TRUE Christian perspective when it comes to other people's beliefs.......................get a life!


    and the greatest Jewish contribution to the world is, obviously, Hollywood. (LOL)
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