Top 10 Best Modern Militaries/Armed Forces

[Old A 6 Driver]

This statement here, "9% Russia - Russia is performing poorly demographicly and economicly." is a load of macho bullshit. Russias government and economy is improving greatly since the fall of the USSR and just in general. Russia right now has the of the most valuable and most needed resourses such as oil, petroleum etc. Right now democracy in Russia is doing better and is improving too, and the poverty rate in russia right now is dropping which is a very good thing and it means people are getting jobs across the country

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[Old A 6 Driver]

My frnds wars r not fought with weapons its still the man behind the gun theory. If it were to be fought with weapons and technology America wld hv won a long time ago in Afghanistan. But they r still fighting a lost cause.


And now fr u guys who r concerned with Pakistan nuclear weapons dont worry abt it cause its in safe hands. As Pakistan has one of the best military in the world which was proved when we won the cambrian patrol defeating US and the european countries. So dont wry these nukes wont be getting in the wrong hands fr all of whom u r concerned so badly.

My friend, the "man behind the gun theory" has long since been replaced by the "computer behind the iron" concept

Your reference to Pakistan winning a small exercise of grunts has little to do with the "power" of a country.

I open Pandora's Box here, but in your simplicity you say the US is incapable of defeating Pakistan or Afghanistan (Should the US actually resolve to fight the country and not a few terrorists) in a shooting war should that occur?

My my, I realize we all are xenophobic and would admit USA would have a hard time, possibly be defeated by the likes of China in an all out war, North Korea or Russia in a ground only scenario (Where the air power mysteriously disappears) on their turf, but Pakistan?

Is that what they really teach you?

[khan921]

Dude as they say
"u cant defeat an enemy who sees paradise in the barrel of ur gun"
thts the same thing with the ppl of Afghanistan and Pakistan. US cant win the war in Afghanistan. Let me give u an example on average a US solider wear gear of almost 4500$ while a taliban militant wear gear of 100-150$ but US still suffering.

Dont be arrogant on the technology and ur power bcoz u dont knw the real power of Pakistan. wars r not won by hving the most advanced jets,ships,tanks,subs,helicopters but r won by men. if US dared attked then they will suffer the most in their history. bcoz evey men r women of this country will die fr his/her country is it the same fr US? so again i say wars r not won by guns but with men........

[Old A 6 Driver]

Dude as they say

Dont be arrogant on the technology and ur power bcoz u dont knw the real power of Pakistan. wars r not won by hving the most advanced jets,ships,tanks,subs,helicopters but r won by men. if US dared attked then they will suffer the most in their history. bcoz evey men r women of this country will die fr his/her country is it the same fr US? so again i say wars r not won by guns but with men........

That's the advantage of "by hving the most advanced jets,ships,tanks,subs,helicopters" Every man, woman and child in your country does not have to die, we take it to the fools who would attack us and destroy their infrastructure (If they have one)

I don't advocate the current US policy, simply being lazy and stupid this morning responding to a clueless *****, please feel free to delete this post without harm as it is a waste of time

[Old A 6 Driver]

Dude as they say
"u cant defeat an enemy who sees paradise in the barrel of ur gun"
thts the same thing with the ppl of Afghanistan and Pakistan. US cant win the war in Afghanistan. Let me give u an example on average a US solider wear gear of almost 4500$ while a taliban militant wear gear of 100-150$ but US still suffering.

Dont be arrogant on the technology and ur power bcoz u dont knw the real power of Pakistan. wars r not won by hving the most advanced jets,ships,tanks,subs,helicopters but r won by men. if US dared attked then they will suffer the most in their history. bcoz evey men r women of this country will die fr his/her country is it the same fr US? so again i say wars r not won by guns but with men........

You have to differentiate between an "attack" and a specific mission to accomplish a task. the US attacked Japan, we performed a mission taking out Bin Laden



If the USA or Great Britain looked at human life as cheaply as the Taliban or certain other cultures, didn't care about collateral damage, one 500 foot steel tube located somewhere in the tens of thousands of square miles of the Indian Ocean would go to launch condition and less than 20 minutes later over 200 big rocks in Afghanistan or Pakistan would be turned into shiny smooth glass

Why would the US "attack" Pakistan/Afghanistan, why would it not be P/A attacking the US? How would the P/A forces get their shock troops to the US, how would they control the sea lanes
, how would thier AF provide CAP or ground support?

You simply talk of scenarios where the US foolishly tries to ferret scared old men out of caves, a lesson I thought we had learned 45 years ago but apparently no

I will agree the US will and does have a terrible time digging out the rats, but to think the Pakistani's or Afghanis' could sustain an all out war with a major power is laughable

Don’t a lot of the opium poppies come from around your home?

[khan921]

Who told u tht usama was killed in pakistan did the US showed his footage r anything related to his death and why were they very In a hurry to through his body in the sea if they hv indeed killed him then show they must show some evidence and if we were attked then it will be a WWIII not only btw 2 countries but it will be much greater then it. And US will dare not through a bomb here coz they r nothing without us.

[khan921]

Intruding in our territory will mean war.

[Old A 6 Driver]

Intruding in our territory will mean war.

My Pakistani friend; have your war and dreams of glory in your head, it is time to cease this "My dog is bigger than your dog" posting and get back to the purpose of this forum

I realize Pakistan is all powerful, the US is "nothing" without you and so forth, I am happy for you to be so proud of your country and maybe someday you will grow up and serve in the armed forces of Pakistan

Most people on here are intelligent and hope to learn from the discourse of others, not the ramblings of dreamers

Cease fire

[khan921]

Dude its not called dreaming its called "reality"



Cease Fire frm my side

[7omnia7]

Why would the US "attack" Pakistan/Afghanistan, why would it not be P/A attacking the US? How would the P/A forces get their shock troops to the US, how would they control the sea lanes
, how would thier AF provide CAP or ground support?



Don’t a lot of the opium poppies come from around your home?

They can always send them on flying carpets...

[Capone24]

If you are talking about the world's strongest militaries you'd have to take the nukes out of the equation. As that would be world annihilation and no point to even have an active military ground presence.

For anyone to say that the US is not by far the most advanced, strongest, dominant military in the world is just ridiculous. YES, Japan, Germany and even South Africa produce quality military tech but they do it in order to sell it to the US and any other oil producing nations that can afford their products. FYI we sell most of these wealthy countries our third tier aircraft b/c we are that advanced in terms of Air Force. A lot of these other countries still have planes from the cold war which are over 40 years old!!!

As for China and it's huge army that's great in all but we're thousands of miles away from them not including the largest ocean in the world, so logistics might play a part. BTW we have the best Navy in the world ten times over. With North America being isolated by the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans it would take a hell of a Navy to ever even step foot on American soil. That's not even including the fact that the US has the most firearms in the world and we love to hunt or oppose other military factions trying to over take us.

The next scenario you have to think about is the army even mobile? Can they afford the costs of fuel and make sure they have adequate living conditions for their soldiers. The US can check both of those off of the list although most of the other countries can't say the same(almost all).

If you want to talk about in terms of potential then our two biggest allies Germany and Japan would be by far the two leaders. Luckily after WWII we were able to establish bases on these countries which eventually led to us building very strong political ties and with both of them basically being another version of Israel.

Then you take into consideration our Air superiority and it is not even fair. Yes Russia can produce amazing fighter's but they are all about economical and not about being technologically advanced. Our planes are so advanced we can't even put a human pilot into them b/c the human body can't experience the force of G's the plane would produce with it's maneuverability.

As for anyone that knows anything about warfare you can't win the battle without controlling the occupied area with a ground presence. You can bomb a city to ashes but it doesn't mean you've won(WWII,Iraq ex.). Which means you would have to have a significant force that could be supported, transported, trained in rural combat and very knowledgeable about the country they are occupying as well as trained in military warfare to overcome any insurgency it would encounter. Not many countries can check all of those off the list.

Luckily the US is not interested in taking over the world and thus the reason we have so many ties with other countries to mutually protect each other. Also with technology coming into play wars are not won so much on battle fields but more so through special ops. That is why most of the western world is focusing on developing their special ops programs as that is the future.

[Balder]

The U.S. is miles away over the rest. Especially now with generations of drones and robots tanks.

[Barrister]

It is true that North Korea is highly overestimated and probably will not last very long in a war with a major power or even a middle power as their economy and technological capabilities are very limited and weak. However they are considered the most militarized country in the world as they spend a huge amount of their GDP on military and pretty much the whole country is looked upon as an army and treated as such. They are very tough, hostile and paranoid due to the communist government which brainwashes its people to think this way especially towards the West, most specifically towards the US. Now I didn't mean to generalize saying they are tough, hostile and paranoid in my previous sentence but like I said they are brainwashed to think this way. Despite everything they have the 4th largest army in the world ahead of countries like Russia and still possess much military power/force that should be taken seriously, they are also developing and working on possessing nuclear weapons and have already succeeded in having some warheads according to some sources. Now Indonesia is ranked in top 15 as 12th or 13th in several websites I have come upon but when I looked more into it, I ranked them as 18th in the world. They have a very tough training system, and are economically growing as well, have fairly large and powerful army, navy and air force but still have some time to be considered powerful enough to be in top 15 or 12/13 in my opinion. I don't know much about African militaries but would rank Egypt, South Africa and Nigeria as the top 3, and the rest would follow. Anyway here's my extended top 20 to 30 if you or anyone else wants to know more: 16) Egypt, 17) Italy, 18) Indonesia, 19) Mexico, 20) Taiwan, 21) Sweden, 22) Greece, 23) Canada, 24) Spain, 25) Saudi Arabia, 26) Ukraine, 27) Australia, 28) Thailand 29) Denmark, 30) Poland.

How can you put a country like Egypt with its economy ahead of countries like Canada or Australia, LOL. Egypt are pathetic. They have a military built almost entirely from United States military aid.