Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456
Results 126 to 134 of 134

Thread: Haplogroups of European kings and queens

  1. #126
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three Friends1 year registered25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    3,530
    Points
    33,064
    Level
    56
    Points: 33,064, Level: 56
    Level completed: 2%, Points required for next Level: 1,186
    Overall activity: 29.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    There are plans to test more members of the dynasty so hopefully we will learn if there was a non-paternity event in the lineage leading to Janusz III of Mazovia, and hopefully they will determine the exact subclade of R1b.

    This has not been possible so far:

    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka
    Kozłowski's claim that his team could not discern any subhaplogroup more specific than R1b is disturbing. He blames the condition of the remains, but one must wonder whether a team with better equipment and methods could have gotten more complete results.

  2. #127
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three Friends1 year registered25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    3,530
    Points
    33,064
    Level
    56
    Points: 33,064, Level: 56
    Level completed: 2%, Points required for next Level: 1,186
    Overall activity: 29.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    In any case I hope that they were L617 or at least some other DF27. :)

  3. #128
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three Friends1 year registered25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    3,530
    Points
    33,064
    Level
    56
    Points: 33,064, Level: 56
    Level completed: 2%, Points required for next Level: 1,186
    Overall activity: 29.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
    They will extract DNA from bones of Piast kings Ladislaus I and Casimir III:

    http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/aktualnos...ow-polski.html

    "Everything indicates, that these are the best preserved graves of the Piast dynasty".

    Spore nadzieje naukowcy pokładają w badaniach grobów Władysława Łokietka i Kazimierza Wielkiego na Wawelu. "Wszystko wskazuje na to, że są to najlepiej zachowane groby członków dynastii Piastów. To ważne, by z takich właśnie grobów pobrać DNA, który po zbadaniu może posłużyć jako wzorzec do identyfikacji innych członków rodu" - opowiada naukowiec.
    They are both buried in St. Leonard's Crypt beneath the Wawel Cathedral:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawel_..._the_Cathedral

    As for Y-DNA of Janusz III of the Mazovian branch of Piasts, Davidski wrote:

    This result might well be correct, but my point was that it was done with PCR on a very degraded sample, and another test is being done now using SNP capture and enrichment to double check the result, and I guess to try and work out the subclade.

    Anyway, expect a lot of confusing results and surprises from Bronze Age, Iron Age and Medieval Poland when the relevant papers finally come out. I've seen a few of them, and it's hard to work out what was going on there.

  4. #129
    Regular Member Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    09-12-11
    Posts
    109
    Points
    4,773
    Level
    20
    Points: 4,773, Level: 20
    Level completed: 31%, Points required for next Level: 277
    Overall activity: 4.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b-U152
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W5

    Country: Netherlands



    I was looking at some maternal lines of European royals. Now I think the following is an interesting line:

    Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia, Willem II of the Netherlands, Alexander III of Russia, Frederik IX of Denmark, Franz Joseph I of Austria-Hungaria, Christian IX of Denmark, Constantine I of Greece, Alfonso XIII of Spain, George IV of the United Kingdom and William IV of the United Kingdom all descend in female line from three daughters of Marie von Barby-Mühlingen and George III von Erbach. She descends in female line from Maria Laskarina, the Byzantine wife of Béla IV of Hungary. Her mother was Anna Komnene Angelina, daughter of Byzantine Emperor Alexios III. Her maternal grandmother was a women of the Kantakouzenos family.

    I wonder what haplogroup they could be.

  5. #130
    Satyavrata Achievements:
    Three FriendsRecommendation First ClassVeteran50000 Experience PointsTagger First Class
    Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    7,980
    Points
    563,395
    Level
    100
    Points: 563,395, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 51.0%


    Ethnic group
    Celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
    According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants of Prince Albert of Prussia (1809–1872), Geoffrey Rockel and Franz Rockel, the House of Hohenzollern would belong to haplogroup I2-Y7219 (downstream of L701 and P78).
    Follow me on Facebook and Twitter --- My profile on Academia.edu and on ResearchGate ----Check Wa-pedia's Japan Guide
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

  6. #131
    Regular Member Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    18-04-14
    Posts
    579
    Points
    1,578
    Level
    11
    Points: 1,578, Level: 11
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 272
    Overall activity: 3.0%


    Country: Poland



    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants
    It feels like humbug.
    I did not find any trace of such offspring in any official biogram of his.
    And btw, it is too risky to count them as such, if they were not aknowledge by him.
    And even if, there is no guarantee, that he was not decieved.

  7. #132
    Regular Member Achievements:
    7 days registered100 Experience Points

    Join Date
    03-06-17
    Posts
    18
    Points
    104
    Level
    1
    Points: 104, Level: 1
    Level completed: 54%, Points required for next Level: 46
    Overall activity: 36.0%


    Country: Ireland



    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants of Prince Albert of Prussia (1809–1872), Geoffrey Rockel and Franz Rockel, the House of Hohenzollern would belong to haplogroup I2-Y7219 (downstream of L701 and P78).
    There's someone on another forum saying that their ancestor is the illegitimate child of some nobility. Their claim to fame is the fact said nobility was a bit odd & supposedly had numerous out-of-marriage children. Can they verify their claims, like how one can grab an eel in oily water.

    My point, you can claim anything on the internet. I would put far more faith into one of his legitimate children. Cause who is to verify they are actually his children unless other members of the family DNA test and they are, given the recent years, relatively closely related and not 10th cousins twice removed.

  8. #133
    Elite member Achievements:
    3 months registered1000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    02-07-16
    Posts
    481
    Points
    4,708
    Level
    20
    Points: 4,708, Level: 20
    Level completed: 15%, Points required for next Level: 342
    Overall activity: 56.0%


    Country: Germany



    Quote Originally Posted by Cruwys View Post
    There's someone on another forum saying that their ancestor is the illegitimate child of some nobility. Their claim to fame is the fact said nobility was a bit odd & supposedly had numerous out-of-marriage children. Can they verify their claims, like how one can grab an eel in oily water.

    My point, you can claim anything on the internet. I would put far more faith into one of his legitimate children. Cause who is to verify they are actually his children unless other members of the family DNA test and they are, given the recent years, relatively closely related and not 10th cousins twice removed.

    If google is to be believed there have been several hyphenated Hohenzollern-Rockels living in Germany until recently.

  9. #134
    Regular Member Achievements:
    3 months registered250 Experience PointsTagger Second ClassThree Friends
    Fatherland's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-03-17
    Posts
    142
    Points
    491
    Level
    5
    Points: 491, Level: 5
    Level completed: 41%, Points required for next Level: 59
    Overall activity: 78.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J2b2-L283
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Albania






Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456

Similar Threads

  1. The haplogroups hidden behind other haplogroups
    By Maciamo in forum Y-DNA Haplogroups
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-12-12, 17:52
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-09-11, 03:45
  3. Origins of European haplogroups
    By danilobu in forum DNA Testing & General Genetics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 23-04-10, 08:59
  4. European Haplogroups
    By Maciamo in forum DNA Testing & General Genetics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 24-05-09, 11:18
  5. European Haplogroups
    By Maciamo in forum European Culture & History
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 13-03-08, 05:01

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •