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    Quote Originally Posted by Neander View Post
    It is impossible. Judaism as a religion was created gradually from 1.000 BC until 500 BC, as a reaction to Philistine invaders.
    I think this is much more older than 3000 years bp

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    I think this is much more older than 3000 years bp
    It was Proto-albanian tribe of Philistines who occupied hebrews and make them slaves.

    In the 1000 BC the David liberated hebrews, when killed Goliath (Illyrian or proto-albanian hero/philistine), and then they created judaic religion, in the base of judaic politheism, but they eliminated other gods except of JHVH.

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    there is no connection between Philistines and Albanians unless you believe that the Sea Peoples were proto-Albanians (which is obviously wrong). Do you have any sources supporting this or is it an other ''Albanians-Pelasgians-the oldest Europeans'' thing?

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    Ezekiel 25:16

    translation of 70 first and best attemp from Hebrew to Koine

    16 διὰ τοῦτο τάδε λέγει κύριος ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐκτενῶ τὴν χεῖρά μου ἐπὶ τοὺς ἀλλοφύλους καὶ ἐξολεθρεύσω κρῆτας καὶ ἀπολῶ τοὺς καταλοίπους τοὺς κατοικοῦντας τὴν παραλίαν

    I wlll kill all Cretans and the rest who live at the shore

    Phillistines Belong to Minoan Branch of Pelasgic, not the Illyrian

    city of Avaris (Abaris) etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neander View Post
    It is impossible. Judaism as a religion was created gradually from 1.000 BC until 500 BC, as a reaction to Philistine invaders.
    That's new, some say it flourished out of Canaanite cultural practices, others (like myself) maintain that it arose in the Sinai desert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neander View Post
    It was Proto-albanian tribe of Philistines who occupied hebrews and make them slaves.

    In the 1000 BC the David liberated hebrews, when killed Goliath (Illyrian or proto-albanian hero/philistine), and then they created judaic religion, in the base of judaic politheism, but they eliminated other gods except of JHVH.

    You're lost, pilgrim.
    Pelištim (Philistines) were part of Sea peoples.
    Scriptures maintain that they came from Kaphtor (Crete)... When Ramses chased them from the coast, he celebrated his triumph against the "Pršt"... IMO, they were Pelsagians, most probably Tyrsenian speakers who then adopted Canaanite language stream with Philistine substratum.
    They would've left their island under incoming Indo-European pressure.

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    DNA of the Arab and Kouhinm identical ( j1c3d) be called Abrahamic strain and this is Proves that the Arabs descended from Ishmail son of Ibraham
    You will note that this strain is spreading widely in the Arabian Peninsula
    ARAB PROJECT IN FAMILY TREE DNA

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