rms2
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- Ethnic group
- British/Irish
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R-L21 (S145, M529)
- mtDNA haplogroup
- U5a2
The R-L21 Plus Project began recruiting men of French ancestry for testing this past July, thanks to generous donations from project members. Central to the effort, and one of its chief financial backers, was an archaeologist who currently wishes to remain anonymous. Another person who deserves a lot of credit is Doug Miller, the Group Administrator of the French Heritage DNA Project, who helped get the word out to his project members.
Anyway, here are the results.
N=24
L21+ (L21 Positive)= 14
L21- (L21 Negative)= 10
Percentages
L21+= 58%
L21-= 42%
I will go back through the list of test subjects, try to break things down by geographic region, and post that information here.
We still have a couple of French subjects awaiting L21 results in our project's "L21 Pending" category. I was going to wait for them but became impatient, so I am going ahead and starting this thread.
I cannot claim this as a truly scientific research project (I'm not a scientist, for one thing), but it did turn out to be pretty much random testing of R1b1b2 men of French descent. I started out by looking for men who were likely to be L21+, based on their matches in YSearch. I could only find one of them, so the rest were a roll of the dice. In the end we just looked for men of French descent who were predicted by FTDNA to be R1b1b2 and who were not obviously L21-. That last was tough, since nobody had a 67-marker haplotype and only one had any prior SNP testing, and so much of western R1b1b2 looks alike. I remember screening out just one guy because he belonged to the R1b North-South Cluster. Although we paid for most of the testing, some of the men paid for their own testing, which helped out a lot.
I think what we can glean from our efforts is that L21 is very well represented in France.
Currently the L21 test is no longer available as a stand-alone on FTDNA's Advanced Orders menu, but I have been advised an IT bug fix is underway that could bring it back to that menu sometime in the near future. The bug has nothing to do with the testing itself. It has to do with the effects of a negative result on a subject's haplogroup listing.
I would like to encourage all R1b men to order FTDNA's Deep Clade-R test or Deep Clade-Extended test, but especially men of French and other continental European descent. L21 is also doing very well among Germans, Netherlanders, and Scandinavians, especially Norwegians.
Anyway, here are the results.
N=24
L21+ (L21 Positive)= 14
L21- (L21 Negative)= 10
Percentages
L21+= 58%
L21-= 42%
I will go back through the list of test subjects, try to break things down by geographic region, and post that information here.
We still have a couple of French subjects awaiting L21 results in our project's "L21 Pending" category. I was going to wait for them but became impatient, so I am going ahead and starting this thread.
I cannot claim this as a truly scientific research project (I'm not a scientist, for one thing), but it did turn out to be pretty much random testing of R1b1b2 men of French descent. I started out by looking for men who were likely to be L21+, based on their matches in YSearch. I could only find one of them, so the rest were a roll of the dice. In the end we just looked for men of French descent who were predicted by FTDNA to be R1b1b2 and who were not obviously L21-. That last was tough, since nobody had a 67-marker haplotype and only one had any prior SNP testing, and so much of western R1b1b2 looks alike. I remember screening out just one guy because he belonged to the R1b North-South Cluster. Although we paid for most of the testing, some of the men paid for their own testing, which helped out a lot.
I think what we can glean from our efforts is that L21 is very well represented in France.
Currently the L21 test is no longer available as a stand-alone on FTDNA's Advanced Orders menu, but I have been advised an IT bug fix is underway that could bring it back to that menu sometime in the near future. The bug has nothing to do with the testing itself. It has to do with the effects of a negative result on a subject's haplogroup listing.
I would like to encourage all R1b men to order FTDNA's Deep Clade-R test or Deep Clade-Extended test, but especially men of French and other continental European descent. L21 is also doing very well among Germans, Netherlanders, and Scandinavians, especially Norwegians.