Which country of those has higher percent of Y-DNA haplogroup I2a?

Bosnia has the highest percentage of I2a, but inboth Croatia and Bosnia it is mostly I2a2, not I2a*.

I2a appeared in southern Europe during the Ice Age. It is associated with native Europeans before the spread of agriculture. Because it is very widespread, in ancient times it could be Greek, Dalmatian, Dacian, Illyrian, Roman or even Celtic.

I2a1 is the Western version (Italy, France, Iberia), while I2a2 is Eastern (Balkans, Greece, Poland, Russia). But many people are just I2a. It is possible to know if a regular I2a is more Eastern or Western by comparing STR markers.

Check your STR results for DYS390. If the value is 23 you are likely a Western I2a or I2a1. If it is 24 or 25 you are surely I2a2 or Eastern I2a.

At DYS389-II, if your value is 28 you are probably I2a1. If it is 29 or 30 you could be anything. If it is 31 or 32 you are surely I2a2.

There are other way of knowing, but it would be easier if I could see your results.

Maciamo,
Why do you label I2a2 as 'eastern'? The bulk of I2a2, referred to as I2a2a-Dinaric by Nordtvedt is indeed eastern in distribution. However, the L161 positive I2a2b-Isles clades [8 of them] are effectively absent in the east. They are distributed in Ireland, Scotland, England and across the north European plain with Germany predominating regarding continental members. Nordtvedt has argued for a north German founder for this north-west European form of I2a2. The branchlines between I2a2a-Dinaric [eastern I2a2] and I2a2b-Isles [western I2a2] split some 13,000 years ago.
 
mine str's

DYS 393: 13
DYS 19: 16
DYS 391: 10
DYS 439: 11
DYS 389-1: 13
DYS 389-2: NaN !!!!! null number!!
DYS 388: 13
DYS 390: 24
DYS 426: 11
DYS 385a:15
DYS 385b: 15
DYS 392: 11

Nat genogr. project says I2a (P37.2). Am I M423-Disles? 423-dinaric?
 
In accordance with relevant research I2a2 in the Balkans between countries are as follows:

1. Bosnia and Herzegovina (Pericic et al, 2005)
Herzegovina 63,8%
Bosnia 52,2%

2. Serbia 38,5% (Mirabal et al, 2010)
It is interesting Total I in Serbia: 48%

3. Croatia 32,4% (Pericic et al, 2005)
Peak is in Dalmatia.

4. Montenegro 29,2% (Mirabal et al, 2010)

5. Macedonia, FYROM 29,1% (Pericic et al, 2010)


It is interesting that among the Tosk Albanians I2a2 is 25,62% (Ferri et al, 2010).

In Romania according Rootsi et al (2004) I2a2 is 17,7% but there are other studies where the data are different.
 
mine str's

DYS 393: 13
DYS 19: 16
DYS 391: 10
DYS 439: 11
DYS 389-1: 13
DYS 389-2: NaN !!!!! null number!!
DYS 388: 13
DYS 390: 24
DYS 426: 11
DYS 385a:15
DYS 385b: 15
DYS 392: 11

Nat genogr. project says I2a (P37.2). Am I M423-Disles? 423-dinaric?

"Full name" for your Y-DNA is most likely I2a2a-Dinaric-North.
That is the most common I2a branch in Romania.
 
Hi, mine str's

DYS 19: 16
DYS 385a: 14
DYS 385b: 15
DYS 389-1: 13
DYS 389-2: 31
DYS 390: 24
DYS 391: 11
DYS 392: 11
DYS 393: 14
DYS 437:13
DYS 438: 10
DYS 439: 13
DYS 448: 20
DYS 456: 15
DYS 458: 17
DYS 635: 23
DYS GATA H4: 11

Am I2a2a or I2a2b?
 
Hi, mine str's

DYS 19: 16
DYS 385a: 14
DYS 385b: 15
DYS 389-1: 13
DYS 389-2: 31
DYS 390: 24
DYS 391: 11
DYS 392: 11
DYS 393: 14
DYS 437:13
DYS 438: 10
DYS 439: 13
DYS 448: 20
DYS 456: 15
DYS 458: 17
DYS 635: 23
DYS GATA H4: 11

Am I2a2a or I2a2b?

As much I can see you are I2a2a Dinaric North.
 
The highest percentage of I2a (probably I2a2) is found in Dalmatia and Herzegovina. Dalmatia is part of Croatia, and Herzegovina is part of Bosnia (actually, the name of country is Bosnia and Herzegovina). Both regions are mostly populated by the same ethnic group – Croats. The border between Dalmatia and Herzegovina is just a political one, there is no natural border and you'll find the same people at both sides.


Croats are an ethnic group? :confused:
 
Croats are an ethnic group? :confused:

binx
Croats are nation.

I respect the Croats and would like the Serbs and Croats to be in better relations, as well as Western European nations with each other, but I know that improving relations is a long process, though I am on this issue long-term optimist.

Serbs and Croats are different nations, and have different haplogroups.

One of difference is that in Croats R1a significantly higher in comparison with Serbs:

R1a

Croatians (mainland), 34.3% (Pericic et al, 2005)

Serbia, 14.5% (Mirabal et al, 2010)

Croatians are close Ukrainian and Polish peoples while the Serbs are in the block of the Balkan peoples.

For example according to Ferri et al, 2010, on the graph for populations of Balkans, North Africa, Italy etc. can be seen that the squares indicating the position of Serbia and Romania almost touch, the closest them are the Bosnians and the Slav Macedonians.


It is interesting to see I2a2 results for countries ex Yugoslavia:


1. Bosnia and Herzegovina (Pericic et al, 2005)
Herzegovina 63,8%
Bosnia 52,2%
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/10/1964.full.pdf+html



2. Serbia 38,5% (Mirabal et al, 2010)
(It is interesting Total I in Serbia: 48%)


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.21235/suppinfo

3. Croatia 32,4% (Pericic et al, 2005)
Peak is in Dalmatia.

4. Montenegro 29,2% (Mirabal et al, 2010)

5. Macedonia, FYROM 29,1% (Pericic et al, 2005)


Now look at the absolute amounts:

I2a2



Federation Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bosnia (7 cantons): about 600,000
West South Herzegovina (3 cantons): about 125,000

Republic of Srpska (Serbian) here was not considered.

Croatia: about 700,000

Montenegro: about 90,000

Macedonia FYROM: about 290,000


Serbia: about 1,400,000

Serbs in the Balkans: about 1,800,000
 

This thread has been viewed 41481 times.

Back
Top