Is Turkey a Western country ? OFFTOPIC @ Spain & Mexico

[^ lynx ^]

Aaah the racist card against europeans... very odd.

First world / christian world = racist.
Third world / non-christian world = tolerant.

Isn't it? Sorry not a chance.

Couples in Turkey unable to conceive naturally face possible jail if they go abroad for artificial insemination treatment. That's according to a new regulation introduced by the country's ministry of health. Artificial insemination has been banned in Turkey for several years, but now the government appears to determined to end the practice altogether.

Artificial insemination is usually not controversial in many other countries. But in Turkey, it's a different story. A new measure makes it a crime for a Turkish woman to get pregnant with sperm from a foreign donor, punishable by one to three years in jail.

The regulation has caused shock both for couples unable to conceive naturally and the doctors who treat them.

Officials say the measure is based on a law that forbids concealing a child's paternity. Protecting the racial purity of the nation is also another reason given by health officials defending the policy.

But women's rights groups are outraged. Pinar Ilkkaracan is the head of Women for Women's Human Rights.

source: http://womenofhistory.blogspot.com/2...face-jail.html

You should find another place to share your euro/first-world-phobics prejudices... just go back to the forum where you follow me from.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

Yes, phobias are horrid things to have. They can impact one's mental equilibrium in the worst way...

[Sirius2b]

@Lynx

First world / christian world = racist.
Third world / non-christian world = tolerant.

Isn't it? Sorry not a chance.

You should find another place to share your euro/first-world-phobics prejudices... just go back to the forum where you follow me from.

Yes, phobias are horrid things to have. They can impact one's mental equilibrium in the worst way...

It is not by chance that there is a closed thread titled "Turkey: Offtopic about Iberians"... ??

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25720

We all know that you are in this thread just to show how much you hate and despise Turks, people that barely know about the existance of countries like Spain or Portugal.

People of Germany, Greace, England, etcetera... surely have interesting things to say about the entry of Turkey in the EU, for the sake of historical, demographical, or strategic reasons.

However, Spaniards today only enter the discussion about Turkey, because they are ashamed of their Arab and Gipsy cultural heritage... and are obsessed to be accepted by nothern European peoples on equal footing, precisely in racial terms, thing that hurt them deep inside like nothing else.

Returning to the theme: Besides your contempt for Turkey ( which we know beforehand, blindfolded ) based in your racial and cultural complexes... do you Iberians have something interesting to say about that country?

Regards.

[Gwyllgi]

We all know that you are in this thread just to show how much you hate and despise Turks, people that barely know about the existance of countries like Spain or Portugal.

Oh come on, they know about the EU and that they want to eat at our table.

People of Germany, Greace, England, etcetera... surely have interesting things to say about the entry of Turkey in the EU, for the sake of historical, demographical, or strategic reasons.

Much more because of economic and socio-political reasons plus well founded opposition to having 90 odd million Mohammedans join the EU with all the horrors that would entail.

However, Spaniards today only enter the discussion about Turkey, because they are ashamed of their Arab and Gipsy cultural heritage... and are obsessed to be accepted by nothern European peoples on equal footing, precisely in racial terms, thing that hurt them deep inside like nothing else.

I’ve met many Spanish people, some I’ve got to know very well indeed, and I can say with my hand on my second-favourite organ (that’s my heart, by the way, my brain is Nr.1) your assertion there is a load of cojones.

Returning to the theme: Besides your contempt for Turkey ( which we know beforehand, blindfolded ) based in your racial and cultural complexes... do you Iberians have something interesting to say about that country?

Strikes me that the only person exhibiting “racial and cultural complexes” is you old son.

The bottom line is and remains that Turkey is NOT a country that is wanted, needed, or should ever be granted accession to the EU.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

@Lynx




It is not by chance that there is a closed thread titled "Turkey: Offtopic about Iberians"... ??

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25720

We all know that you are in this thread just to show how much you hate and despise Turks, people that barely know about the existance of countries like Spain or Portugal.

People of Germany, Greace, England, etcetera... surely have interesting things to say about the entry of Turkey in the EU, for the sake of historical, demographical, or strategic reasons.

However, Spaniards today only enter the discussion about Turkey, because they are ashamed of their Arab and Gipsy cultural heritage... and are obsessed to be accepted by nothern European peoples on equal footing, precisely in racial terms, thing that hurt them deep inside like nothing else.

Returning to the theme: Besides your contempt for Turkey ( which we know beforehand, blindfolded ) based in your racial and cultural complexes... do you Iberians have something interesting to say about that country?

Regards.

So, what makes you an authority on the Spanish psyche, omniscient one? Are you also expert at palm reading or sorcery? Stop the jejune behavior already - you do not have the intellectual integrity to make blanket statements about ANY European ethnicity. Stick to analysing your own kind, if you don't mind. Do you think you are dealing with children here?

[Sirius2b]

So, what makes you an authority on the Spanish psyche, omniscient one? Are you also expert at palm reading or sorcery? Stop the jejune behavior already - you do not have the intellectual integrity to make blanket statements about ANY European ethnicity. Stick to analysing your own kind, if you don't mind. Do you think you are dealing with children here?

Please, do not try to divert the theme, and you obviously ignored or you were unable to answer the last question

(i.e. "Do you have anything interesting to say about Turkey?").

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[^ lynx ^]

I�€™ve met many Spanish people, some I�€™ve got to know very well indeed, and I can say with my hand on my second-favourite organ (that�€™s my heart, by the way, my brain is Nr.1) your assertion there is a load of cojones.

Forget it Gwyllgi. Sirious is a lost cause belive me I know this people enough. People in latin american are deeply frustrated and ashamed of being mestizos. And I don't blame them, sadly they live in completely classists societies where being "white" and/or "european" gives you a special "pedigree". In their TV media or magazines you'll hardly get to see actors or models from different ethnic backgrounds out of euro-descendents (I tried to discuss about this a few months ago but Sirious ask Maciamo to close the topic).

That's why people like Sirious grow up with a huge inferiority complex and resentment against the colonizers countries (in this case, Spain). They blame on us for their racial complex and try to make us feel the same shame with that kind of stupid statements.

I remember when Sirious first came to this forum, he started posting pictures of mexican mestizos, saying that they looked exactly like typical spaniards, and after we argued him that they didn't look spaniards at all he started openning threads about the african admixture in Iberia, the semitic admixture in Iberia... I don't know, the kid just gone mad and Maciamo had to close several of his garbage threads. And I'm suspicious that he has a couple of clones in this forum too.

Calm down it's enough already Mike-Sirious.

[^ lynx ^]

...and as you can see Gwyllgi, Sirious is not interested in replying your statement. He's just obsessed with us (iberians) and commitment to the mission of making the world believe that spaniards suffer the same ridiculous inferiority complex people in his country have.

[Sirius2b]

Much more because of economic and socio-political reasons plus well founded opposition to having 90 odd million Mohammedans join the EU with all the horrors that would entail.

1. Well... very odd (Population of Turkey is 70 million and not growing fast).

2. "Mohammedan" is a term that I have seen being used only by people well versed in the hate against Muslims.

3. Which are the "horrors" that people should expect to see if Turkey by any chance is allowed entry in the EU?

Could you point at some examples of those horrors, being that currently there are several million Turks living mostly in Germany?

The bottom line is and remains that Turkey is NOT a country that is wanted, needed, or should ever be granted accession to the EU.

Then why did you Europeans promised it to the Turkish people in the first place?

I myself do not believe that it will be ideal to Turkey to enter... And of course it will be much WORSE to accept the second place that is programmed in the political design boards of people like Sakozy and Merkel.

(We will eventually discuss which is that programm).

Strikes me that the only person exhibiting “racial and cultural complexes” is you old son.

Really? So soon do we get personal?

@Gwyllgi... I have reviewed your topics posted recently. And I think that there are three main conducting lines of your opinions in this forum.

Please tell me (to remain in the original theme of the thread):

What do you think of the most recent deeds of Erdogan in foreign policy?

[Sirius2b]

@Lynx wrote...

I remember when Sirious first came to this forum, he started posting pictures of mexican mestizos, saying that they looked exactly like typical spaniards, and after we argued him that they didn't look spaniards at all he started openning threads about the african admixture in Iberia, the semitic admixture in Iberia...

This is the kind of reality-bending and mendacity that makes you sooooo popular in this forum.

I will say no more.

[^ lynx ^]

I will say no more.

That's a very wise decision. The whole forum is witness of what i said.

[Wilhelm]

Come on Sirious, we are tired of your fixation with Iberians, we know one of your clones is Trollhattan, who has been banned 2 times already.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

Please, do not try to divert the theme, and you obviously ignored or you were unable to answer the last question
(i.e. "Do you have anything interesting to say about Turkey?").
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I think it is abundantly clear that YOU are the one diverting the theme... Grow up already.

[^ lynx ^]

And then again Sirious: We know that there are certain african genetic admixture in the Iberian Peninsula and we have no problem talking about it (in fact, we even have a topic in this forum about it and we haven't ask Maciamo to close it despite some ******** attempts by your clones, btw) unlike you and your inability to talk about the amerindian background and racial problems in your country which is worse, cause the african contribution to the iberian genetic pool is minimum while amerindian is the MAIN contribution to your country's genetic pool.

[Sirius2b]

Again: This thread is NOT about Iberia.

Stop trying to highjack this topic as you have done with countless others in the past.

Please, say something ABOUT Turkey, not about yourselves.

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[^ lynx ^]

It was you who bring the iberian issue into the topic, geek.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

Don't you just love these self-hating Third World types, who are filled with primal insecurities, spreading childish lies about European ethnicities. Quite pathetic.

[^ lynx ^]

Indeed. They give us so much fun...

[Cambrius (The Red)]

Such a barrel of laughs they are...

[Sirius2b]

OK, @Lynx everybody knows that Spain is the most unproductive and uncompetitive country in the EU... living on Taxpayers of other European countries.

http://www.economist.com/world/europ...ry_id=15503246

... besides incresingly being seen in Latin America as a country that does the most lowly things and lying shamelessly, to please the United States.

Its racialist vision (like yours) commencing to create a divide among Spain and the real "Spanish Speaking World" of more than 300+ million in America.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcx...a_news?start=3


You say that you do not want to know nothing of Latin Americans, because they "soil the image of Spain"? Who knows, maybe one day your dreams will come true, and sooner that you expect.

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On the contrary, Turkey is seen as the country of the Future:

Worldwide renowned analyst George Friedman assessed the situation of Turkey and said that the Turkish economy will become one of the largest of the world by 2020. The US analyst also said Turkey will be one of the four superpowers of the world by 2050.

Turkey will become a regional leader and already enjoys the economic power necessary for it, said Friedman during a meeting in İstanbul. According to Friedman, Turkey should set the course towards the Islamic world and the United States instead of the European Union.
That Turkey is a non-EU member is the greatest advantage for it while the world experiences a period marked by global financial crisis, said Friedman.

Source: http://www.trt.net.tr/International/...b-8adc1c793b0f

I do not believe that Europe is going down as this author say,... however, I believe he is right about Turkey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12eNAovkDTM


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Why don't you do a try and go to Google and type sentences like

"Turkey Superpower" or "Türkei Weltmacht" ?

http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=e...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=e...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

And you know, when people made such sentences, it could be serious... at least you could entertain the possibility.

(Try to make write "Spain Worldpower" - not refering to a dinstant past - without laughing out loud. )

Regards.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

OK, @Lynx everybody knows that Spain is the most unproductive and uncompetitive country in the EU... living on Taxpayers of other European countries.

http://www.economist.com/world/europ...ry_id=15503246

... besides incresingly being seen in Latin America as a country that does the most lowly and lying shamelessly, to please the United States.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcx...a_news?start=3

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On the contrary, Turkey is seen as the country of the Future:




Source: http://www.trt.net.tr/International/...b-8adc1c793b0f

I do not believe that Europe is going down as this author say... however, I believe he is right about Turkey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12eNAovkDTM

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Why don't you do a try and go to Google and type sentences like

"Turkey Superpower" or "Türkei Weltmacht" ?

http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=e...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=e...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

And you know, when people made such sentences, it could be serious... at least you could entertain the possibility.

(Try to make write "Spain Worldpower" (not refering to a dinstant past) without laughing out loud. )

Regards.

Excuse me, what body of reference are you utilizing to support your making such an outlandish statement as Spain is "the most unproductive and uncompetitive country in the EU"? Certainly nothing of the kind is written in the Economist article you presented.

Do you have a propensity to construct alternate "realities"?

[^ lynx ^]

This Moctezuma never ceases to amaze. As much he makes a fool of himself he always come back to show more of his retarded mind.

You are really giving a great image of your people and your country. Seek for medical help for your spanish-phobic. Looser.

[^ lynx ^]

Excuse me, what body of reference are you utilizing to support your making such an outlandish statement as Spain is "the most unproductive and uncompetitive country in the EU?? Certainly nothing of the kind is written in the Economist article you presented.

Do you have a propensity to construct alternate "realities"?

Ignore the frijolito. First he says we are going off-topic all the time and when I post an article he has no reply for he start talking about Spain and its economy.

No wonder why americans are really feed up with this people.

[Cambrius (The Red)]

Hey Sirius, since you appear to like Turkey so much, why don't you just move there?

[^ lynx ^]

If Turkey is going to be a future super-power by their own why are they so desperate for being a EU member? It has no sense.

But of course this is too much complicated for the sick mind of a frijolito.