For those interested some data from this study is available in supporting information:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.21235/suppinfo
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Also interesting question would be, who are I1 people in Serbia and Montenegro.
Germanic tribes which invaded Italy conquered Dalmatia also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odoacer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_kingdom
The other reason for I1 frequency might be movements of Goths in earlier centuries. They were close or passing by Western Ukraine inhabited by I2a2 Din. So they could have mixed there already, and later came to Balkans together.
PS: When calculating percentages pay attention to first column. It shows number of the same haplotypes, so I1 frequency found by this study in Serbia is actually 7,82%.
It is not strange for Montenegro, especially its eastern part bordering with Albania to have lower percent of I2a. It is well known fact that I2a haplogroup fall dramaticaly in Kosovo Albanians and Northern Albania too. I believe that E1b1 dominating in area of Zeta-Sandzak dialect. There are already some Vasojević clan members which tested as E1b1. On the other side, part of Montenegro known as Old Herzegovina is predominantly I2a. It is obvious on following maps:That is very strange about montenegro considering that I2a is the hg of the slavs who live in the dinaric alps liek for example its at 60% or so in herzegovina and southern croatia... and montenegro lays along that same chain of mountains...
But anyway i cant see this article as it looks like you ahve to buy it which im not sure where you can do that either but would anyone mind posting the exact numbers for all the other haplogroups found here??
Ethnic Montenegrins is very discutable term. Just few years ago they were practicaly Serbs. On the either side some parts of Montenegrin society show great resemblance with Albanians. Some of the Montenegrin clans have legends about common ancestors with some Albanian clans. Vasojevic clan I already mentioned.Ethnic ALBANIANS have high E values, ethnic montengrins are not ethnic albanians. On those mentioned parts the south close to albania are predimontaely albanian areas eg ulcinj. where these ethnic montenegrins from these areas tested or just people who live there albos included??
@Montenegrin is not a disputable term its just that some Montenegrins identify as Montenegrins while others as Serbs. Members of the same family can have different identifcations two brothers even. No ETHNIC Montenegrin identifies as an albanian. To explain Montenegrins are Serbs but we are not exactly the same... there are some i guess you could call cultural differences and the such. But mixing with albanians neevr occured ona large scale they are probably the biggest enemies up until 1913 or so we had been in on and off periods of warfare with them for over half a millenia... same as with the turks. The only semblence with albanian society is what they copied from montenegro notably the clan system. Prior to the turks arriving albos were like nomads they had nothing as far as infrastructure goes. This can also be seen by their last names. Last names in albania range from arabic/turk, to slavic. Whereas almost all serbian and montenegrin and any of the other south slavs last names are south slavic and ending in ic.
@ Garrick
I doubt that haplogroup e is little represented in croatia or slovenia its more than likely they twisted that. In those countries it should be between 10-15% as looking at that area in europe e is at that % for example austrians, slovaks, hungarians, non north germans, north italians etc... are all at around 10% for hg E. doesnt make sense that croats and slovenes lack it that much as all of their neighbors have it. But yes they have it less than serbs or montenegrins do although i do think in the latter it is overly excessive
I think you are mixing up modern ethnic groups with very old y-haplogroups, which is never a good idea. In the study about 27% of Montenegrins belong to the E haplogroup, the same haplogroup which reaches its peak in Europe in Kosovar Albanians. This doesn't mean the two mixed in the last 100 years or even last few hundred years. What it does mean is that when the two different haplogroups did first meet there was mixing and assimilation mostly of the E haplogroup in Serbia and even more so in Montenegro. This doesn't make anyone who belongs to the E haplogroup any less of a Serb or Montenegrin.
how yes and no
Although there are sources that I2a2 and R1a are treated separately, we must respect the people who watch them together as Slavic.
On the DNA forum Heindale gives very strong arguments for I2a2 Dinaric Clade as Slavic and one can hard to argue differently.
However, one can build theories which can fuse different things, including that belonging to haplogroups I2a2 was originally distinguished from R1a.
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