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exactlyPelasgic Bellekon white
Thracian- slavic Bello
Greek ellekon-> lefkon
Slavic Velikopelasgic Pelloros Big Huge
Thracian Velliko
Greek pellorios
Slavic "pio sam" = I was drinkingpelasgic piosom drink
thracian piam
Greek pino -posome
"pijem" = I am drinking
"pijan" = drunk
Slavic gore = uppelasgic gerom up raise
thracian gore
greek egiro
Slavicpelasgic perako i made i do
thracian pravyia pravgia
Greek prasso pratto but the result prak-sis
"praviti" - to make
"pravio sam" - I was making
"pravim" - I am making
pelasgic ???
thracian ???
slavic glagoliti
Greek glotta ->glotta glossa glossario ->ss->g r->l glogali
aeolin glossa is greka means ss-> k=g glossary -? glogari-ti
thracian ???
as you see connection of Greek with thracian and slavic is bigger
than german or baltic,
exactly, shared old arhaic words indicate living in close proximity in ancient times...
exactly, that is what I claim all the time...can you explain that?
seems thracian language is close to pellasgic aryan
probably thracian is the mother of slavic and not baltic as western say
remamber thracian were the 2nd biggest nation in the world, in area that today is slavic language and if thracian are proto slavic I2 people are slavic and R1a are invaders of europe,
proto-Slavs were I2
semms that I2 people spoke with thracian proto-slavic
exactly, Garick might not agree but I agree that I2 spoke proto-Slavic...
whatch min 0:18 area of thracian lands, it is today I2 Ydna people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZIn05jOBM&feature=related
excellent point, spread of I2 exactly matches area of influence of Thracians and related people...
but I would not exclude R1a from Thracian story...
I would add here historic document Russian primary chronicle from 1113 that states following
http://www.utoronto.ca/elul/English/218/PVL-selections.pdfAfter the destruction of the tower and the division of the nations, the sons of Shem occupied the eastern regions, and sons of Ham those of the south, and the sons of Japheth the western and the northern lands. Among these seventy-two nations, the Slavic race is derived from the line of Japheth, since they are the Noricians, who are identical with the Slavs.
Over a long period the Slavs settled beside the Danube, where the Hungarian and Bulgarian lands now lie. From among these Slavs, parties scattered throughout the country and were known by appropriate names, according to the places where they settled. Thus some came and settled by the river Morava, and were named Moravians, while others were called Czechs. Among these same Slavs are included the White Croats, the Serbs, and the Carinthians. For when the Vlakhs attacked the Danubian Slavs, settled among them, and did them violence, the latter came and
made their homes by the Vistula, and were then called Lyakhs. Of these same Lyakhs some were called Polyanians, some Lutichians, some Mazovians, and still others Pomorians. Certain Slavs settled also on the Dnipro, and were likewise called Polyanians. .....
* note that in year 1113 Bulgaria is along Danube all the way to Vojvodina (north Serbia), and Vojvodina is in Hungary....
thus, this reference of living along Danube maps to Thracians + Scordisci + Pannonians
btw. Noricans (who are identical to Slavs according to chronicle) are Pannonians originally....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoricumThe original population appears to have consisted of Pannonians (a people kin to the Illyrians), who, after the great migration of the Gauls, became subordinate to various Celto-Ligurians tribes, chief amongst them being the Taurisci, who were probably identical with the Norici of Roman sources, so called after their capital Noreia, whose location is, as yet, unknown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TaurisciThe Taurisci were a people who dwelt in the north of Carniola before the coming of the Romans (c. 200 BC)[1] According to Pliny the Elder, they are the same people known as the Norici.[2][3]
Taurisci is same tribal name as Thrace..
it is related to mount Taurus in Asia minor...
I do however think that Thracians and Taurisci were dominantly R1a (though mixed with I2a2)
while Scordisci, Pannonians and Veneti were dominantly I2a2 (with some R1a)
Note that Vindelici (who match location and name of Serbs prior to 7th century move to Balkan) are Veneti derived people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VindeliciaHowever, according to a classical source, Servius' commentary on Virgil's Aeneid,[2] the Vindelicians were Liburnians, themselves most probably related to the Veneti.[3][4] (A reference in Virgil[2] seems to refer to the Veneti as Liburnians, namely that the "innermost realm of the Liburnians" must have been the goal at which Antenor is said to have arrived.) Thus, it seems that the ancient Liburnians may have encompassed a wide swathe of the Eastern Alps, from Vindelicia, through Noricum, to the Dalmatian coast.
and that Jordanes speaks of early Slavs as of Veneti race
http://people.ucalgary.ca/~vandersp/Courses/texts/jordgeti.htmlWithin these rivers lies Dacia, encircled by the lofty Alps as by a crown. Near their left ridge, which inclines toward the north, and beginning at the source of the Vistula, the populous race of the Venethi dwell, occupying a great expanse of land. Though their names are now dispersed amid various clans and places, yet they are chiefly called Sclaveni and Antes. (35) The abode of the Sclaveni extends from the city of Noviodunum and the lake called Mursianus to the Danaster, and northward as far as the Vistula. They have swamps and forests for their cities. The Antes, who are the bravest of these peoples dwelling in the curve of the sea of Pontus, spread from the Danaster to the Danaper, rivers that are many days' journey apart. (36)