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Thread: J1 vs. J1c3 vs. J1c3d in Europe?

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    Country: Portugal



    J1 vs. J1c3 vs. J1c3d in Europe?

    I have a few questions.

    Can you be J1 (DYS 388=16) without being J1c3 or J1c3d? I did a deep clade test and my confirmed haplogroup was J1. With DYS388=16 shouldn't I be J1c3?

    Also I am from Northern Portugal and don't know how J1 got there. Could that happened during the Neolithic? I have matches all over Ukraine, Hungary, Romania, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy. In have exact 12 STR matches with people from Hungary and Switzerland. In my 1-step and 2-step mutations matches I only have 1 or 2 matches in Turkey and Lebanon.

    Could I also be of Jewish ancestry? I did my genealogy and all the Santos family males were Catholic all the way to the 1650.

    Could J1 or even J1c3 migrate to Europe during the Neolithic? If the age of J1c3 is aprox. 9,000 and J1 even older is it possible that a few individuals fallow J2 in their migration to Europe via the Black Sea? I just have two many matches in central European countries and very few in the Middle-East.

    Thank you very much.

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    Historically the area was in moors hands from 900 AD. The gradual recon quest of the area resulted in a lot of conversions to the catholic faith for the Jews and Moors. A large group of the Jews and moors that did not convert fled to Istanbul. Although allot of the converts were killed in the inquisition that followed. So I am not sure how much of a genetic mark it has left.

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