Au contraire mon capitan. It actually looks like Greeks were sleeping for couple of decades and just woke up. They just woke up, looked around and started shouting:
"Who did this mess in my country!. Must be the Germans, or Macedonians, maybe Turks or other easterners, obviously USA with CIA, bankers and Jews. Who the heck did this? Surely it weren't us. We were... sleeping."
Did Greeks protested 20 or 10 years ago when deficit was rampant and debt was starting to pile up? Where were the Greeks back then to see the signs of coming gloom and doom? I suspect they were sleeping, otherwise they would have noticed the signs, right?
If you say again, that Greeks were duped, cheated, manipulated. Then I say again, rethink your democracy, because obviously, people - Greeks in this case, are not able to make good choices if it comes to politics or economy.
Don't concentrate on Germans or EU, concentrate on Greece.
I ask again, what is your solution for Greece? We know how you feel and thousands protesting, but what are you proposing for Greece, what solution?
Are you going to follow Portugal with center-right new government and tightening the belt? Looks like Portugal doesn't want to protest, they get beck to work fixing Portugal. Your prediction that protests will spread through Europe is falling apart.
Well Lebrok for time in this forum we have a 50% agree.
if you read my above post #59 you see that Greeks do not want to be insulted,
Now about the spread of Revolutin I Found that map,
http://www.thetechnoant.info/campmap/
BUT INDEED IS SPWEADING THE IDEA.
Spain Greece in major, Italy has while some smaller protests are in France UK Ireland Portugal etc
If I find I will post it,
in Athens the gothered wher 80 000 according Reuters and 200 000 according others, (!!!)
we will see.
In Greece people are afraid 5 phalanx.
ibn case you that Post i would like to see posts #17 just to see behind, conspiracies and 'paranoia' that I have been told,
these are just few of late but in Greek language,
http://news247.gr/oikonomia/oikonomika/apovash_norvhgwn_gia_petrelaio_sthn_ellada.845799.html
http://news247.gr/oikonomia/prosdokies_gia_esoda_disekatommyriwn_apo_to_petrelaio.866586.html
http://news247.gr/oikonomia/petrelaio_ionio_krhth.1099356.html
well the story goes,
Albania in south in area P. Maritsa has oil, Ruusians found it in 1954,
When I was in Univeristy I had done some NATO researches near there as an engineer,
But in Hydrology and energy plants, (the doctor's case)
The whole oil is from Italy sea to Croatia, Monte Negro, Albania Greece,
well lets see, the corfu oil is estimeted more than 15 Billion E
the companies
Statoil
PGS
TGS
Norwegian Rune Henricksen (whatever is written) and Greek minister Maniatis, are about to sign the treaty.
source magazine Capital.
In 17 june this year an international search and propose on how drill will be by Greek minister,
for first is the oil of the adriatic zone, that starts from Dalmatia and ends Greece and also passes east of Italy,
Second the cretan Gas and oil,
a new plan that connects Revinthousa island with Crete via marine, North Greece that connects with South Stream (and perhaps Nabuco???) is in first plan,
the rest will be driil only after Greece Turkey agreement cause there is a casus beli by both.
All in magazine Capital.
well next time try to call me 'paranoid' some,
the whole case is setup before,what is the problem
Greek constitution, parag 120
NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SELL GREEK STATE LAND,
not even the parliament,
the problem is that who is above EU Laws or Greek constitution,
how the story goes, Greek corrupt politicians, money vultures attack, despaired Greeks sell,
Lebrok yes Greek are in situation of sleep with one eye open now,
they have not awake yet,
the more the insult by Angela the more we wake, (at least those who still sleep)
But the main problem will not be solved, still Greek economy needs a flexible and not so high Euro,
while Germany wants strong,
the last post in magazines show that Indeed Greece is going to Her own currency Drachma,
if That is possible then surely opens road that other countries can in time move from Euro,
the case is still uncertain to be sure,
Gov in Greece promises a Referendum (!!!!!! 50 years no one done,) if go or not according IMF and EuroGROUP orders,
we 'll see,
now about Personally,
I Believe that Greece needs first a cleaning (corrupt politicians etc)
Then constitution change, so to put anoteher elected (like a president) to check the legal and numbers of state, (2 kings system, 2 major elected that check each other)
and then to decide Euro or Drachma.
I only hope they don't do East mediterrean like N Orleans LU
with accidents and polution
