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Is it serious this map?
¿Since when this has something to do with the fact that Catalan speakers exist in the same territories since a very long time? The blindness derived from your anti-Catalan agenda does not allow you to get the main idea. Please, stop mixing up things, there's no room here for nationalistic crusades.These questions are very outlandish, looking at this map of Europe in 1235 Catalonia simply does not exist.
These questions are very outlandish, looking at this map of Europe in 1235 Catalonia simply does not exist.
Could there possibly be another motive besides an obvious racist one for wanting to prove to everyone that you are 'pure' Europeans? Your infatuation is beginning to concern me Wilhelm.
|
Population | |
Paleo_Balkanic | - |
Celto_Germanic | 3.30% |
Caucasian | 23.44% |
Volga_Uralic | 2.90% |
Iberian | 2.26% |
Altaic_Turkic | 28.12% |
Paleo_North_European | 1.13% |
South_Central_Asian | 12.90% |
East_European | - |
Uralic_Permic | 1.74% |
Mediterranean | 24.21% |
everywhere in all anthropology forums is findable at least an italian from mainland italy affected from complex of inferiority that can't bear that sardinians are genetically the most europeans among italians
are you tuscans? well look about your 100% true european looking tuscans, like
Carlo Conti, Denis Verdini and Cecchi Gori...etc!
a Sardinian who doesn't look completely european is the Senator Beppe Pisanu, that have ancient ancestors from Tuscany!
LOL
everywhere in all anthropology forums is findable at least an italian from mainland italy affected from complex of inferiority that can't bear that sardinians are genetically the most europeans among italians
are you tuscans? well look about your 100% true european looking tuscans, like
Carlo Conti, Denis Verdini and Cecchi Gori...etc!
a Sardinian who doesn't look completely european is the Senator Beppe Pisanu, that have ancient ancestors from Tuscany!
LOL
Generally speaking it works for Europe. The frequent human migrations of last couple of thousands of years, or so, messed up it somewhat. Especially Germanics and Slavs moving south.
Inuit and probably Saami, circumvented low sun radiation with their diet. They consume (used to even more) raw liver which contains lots of vitamin D. Plus, even if they are not blond, their skin tone is rather light.
You can see reverse in Bedouin communities of Arabian Peninsula. They, theoretically, should be darker, but they always wear whole body clothes/tunics for protection against intensive sun.
the cousins people (from a steady shared admixture in same old ethny) living for long centuries in the same region don't have the same colours everyone of them: so skin colour is not a gentle graduation paint as a 'thermostat heating system' - it is the result of some different mutations plus some natural ANCIENT SELECTION - and this selection is no more at work, a long time ago yet on Mankind - genuine Saami have dark skins compared to southernmost people! look at Inuit too!
there are different brunet skins and different light skins, from different genetic histories-You can draw a line with a pencil from West to East at a certain lattitude and observe human populations, you could not find the same repartitions of elements and colours
some maps are nonsense as the maps about human skin colour - and "means" are not always a reflect of reality:
(I think in "facial means" produced with computers for the European countries: without any genetic NOR phenotypic signification)- to answer Julia here: Castillans of Mancha has approximatively the same kinds of skin colours as Valencians from the same Lattitude, but present more light skins and less dark skins: to go further on, skin colours, eyes colours and hairs colours are not always so tightly linked in certain populatyions (look at the N-W Celts)
&: pigmentation is only an element of indentification of genetic roots
buona notte - nos vad
thought, in many places of europe there were a large bulge of pre-historic and more ancient people, whose skin tone was adapted to the solar radiance kind of place they lives.. that explains why southern italians are more likely to tan well (well every people can, also the blonde ones, but the reds not) and quickly
This is my mixture and have some questions for ............
q1 - what is Paleo_mediterranean
Population East_Eurasian 30.52% West_Eurasian 1.90% Caucasian 33.01% South_Asian 13.50% Paleo_mediterranean 21.07%
q2 - my markers of my Y-dna indicate matches in majority british isles, norway, sweden or central europe ( swiss, Nitalian, austria and southern german ), with this mix, can I conclude my matching people all migrated to northern europe
q3 - 1 am 100% T1b when using all 37 markers, but a memeber excluded my fast moving markers and I am 92% T1b, would this effect my mixture
Above is using #5
and
Below is using #11
Population Paleo_Balkanic - Celto_Germanic 3.30% Caucasian 23.44% Volga_Uralic 2.90% Iberian 2.26% Altaic_Turkic 28.12% Paleo_North_European 1.13% South_Central_Asian 12.90% East_European - Uralic_Permic 1.74% Mediterranean 24.21%
what number am I supposed to use
Paleo Mediterranean differs from one calculator to another. It is generally not a good idea to compare similar groupings between various calculators as their components differ quite substantially.
Concerning your 2nd question, it is important to remember that the majority of commercial DNA participants are from the regions you mention and therefore not a representative sample of your haplogroup's frequency distribution. Inferring from modern frequency distribution is fraught with all soughts of limitations.
Qu 3: Your ydna designation and STR-values do not effect admixture because they are found on different chromosomes. Admixture is on autosomal chromosomes whereas ydna and it's relevant STR-values are found on the sex chromosome (Y).
Your admixture shows a significant amount of Altaic Turkic (28%) suggesting mixed ancestry somewhere in your genealogy. I would have expected a Venetian to have negligable Altaic admixture.
My question to you is what is the best test to do if you are european ( i.e. for admixtures)
thanks
I suggest you have a look at gedmatch. There are many calculators with interesting tools available. Download your data file onto gedmatch and refrain from limiting access so that you may use the full array of admixture tools available.
Gedmatch includes a large database of data files and will compare your autosomal SNPs with other data files.
Altaic admixture of 28% is a strong indicator of recent admixture, you have approximately 20x more Altaic than any Balkan participants I've seen. Most Turks range in the region of between 30% & 50%.
The Ligurian population has a significant Celto-Germanic component. At least 15%. In addition to this there is a significant West Eurasian component as well. At least 15%. These components have a weak showing on your results suggesting a more interesting story with perhaps some recent Levantine admixture.
East_Eurasian | 30.52% |
West_Eurasian | 1.90% |
Caucasian | 33.01% |
South_Asian | 13.50% |
Paleo_mediterranean | 21.07% |
1 | Altaic_Turkic | 18.27 |
2 | Paleo_Mediterranean | 24.07 |
3 | Caucasian | 33.17 |
4 | South_Central_Asian | 12.89 |
5 | Celto_Germanic | 3.44 |
6 | Volga_Uralic | 2.95 |
7 | Iberian | 2.33 |
8 | Uralic_Permic | 1.8 |
9 | Balto_Finnic | 0.7 |
10 | Paleo_North_European | 0.39 |
1 | NOG (Nogai) | 27.7 |
2 | UZ (Uzbek) | 27.73 |
3 | TRK (Turk) | 32.33 |
4 | NITAL (North-Italian) | 35.43 |
5 | BSHK (Bashkir) | 36.27 |
6 | CITAL (Central-Italian) | 36.54 |
7 | SIC (Sicilian) | 36.93 |
8 | GRK (Greek) | 37.06 |
9 | TTR (Tatar) | 37.72 |
10 | RMN (Romanian) | 39.08 |
11 | CRS (Corsican) | 39.21 |
12 | GGZ (Gagauz) | 39.78 |
13 | BLG (Bulgarian) | 39.88 |
1 | W_Africa | 45.39 |
2 | Europe | 19.89 |
3 | S_Africa | 10.92 |
4 | E_Africa | 8.14 |
5 | Biaka | 7.72 |
6 | SW_Asia | 3.68 |
7 | Mbuti | 2.41 |
8 | NW_Africa | 1.85 |
1 | 72.8% | Kongo | + | 27.2% | North_Italian | @ | 6.37 | |
2 | 74% | Fang | + | 26% | North_Italian | @ | 6.95 | |
3 | 72% | Bamoun | + | 28% | North_Italian | @ | 7.19 | |
4 | 72.6% | Kongo | + | 27.4% | Tuscan | @ | 7.42 | |
5 | 73.8% | Fang | + | 26.2% | Tuscan | @ | 7.91 | |
6 | 78.6% | Fang | + | 21.4% | French_Basque | @ | 7.98 | |
7 | 71.8% | Bamoun | + | 28.2% | Tuscan | @ | 8.07 | |
8 | 77.7% | Kongo | + | 22.3% | French_Basque | @ | 8.17 | |
9 | 77.1% | Bamoun | + | 22.9% | French_Basque | @ | 9.46 | |
10 | 70.8% | Kaba | + | 29.2% | North_Italian | @ | 9.66 | |
11 | 70.5% | Kaba | + | 29.5% | Tuscan | @ | 10.29 | |
12 | 69.3% | Hausa | + | 30.7% | North_Italian | @ | 11.14 |
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