dodecad admixture components and the phenotypes connected to them among Kurds.

[Alan]

It is very hard and maybe impossible to find individuals who fit 100% into one component but I think I could at least find some going into the direction.

This phenotypes correlate with the components found among them in my opinion.

West Asian 40-50% depending on region.



Mediterranean 20-26%



West/East European 10-15%




Southwest Asian 8-15%. It is hard and unusual to find Kurds with straight Southwest Asian features but there are individuals which show some influences and tendencies toward Southwest Asia.



South (Central) Asian ANI 3-9%

[Goga]

Where does she fit? I think she is very sexy. And very horny Iranic song, lol.




True Kurdish warriors:

[Alan]

Both the woman and fighter in the second video fit best in the Mediterranean branch.

[Goga]

Both the woman and fighter in the second video fit best in the Mediterranean branch.

Yes, this video is edited and dubbed. But I still think she's Kurdish. I mean she does look very Kurdish (Iranic) to me. One of my nieces looks like her.

I'm not an expert on the admixture components phenotypes, but I think that all these Kurds I posted look very Kurdish (Iranic) to me...

[Alan]

Yes, this video is edited and dubbed. But I still think she's Kurdish. I mean she does look very Kurdish (Iranic) to me. One of my nieces looks like her.

I'm not an expert on the admixture components phenotypes, but I think that all these Kurds I posted look very Kurdish (Iranic) to me...

Are you sure, you are Kurd from Georgia? Georgian Kurds I know look no way like this Girl. They usually look like Georgians-South Slavs-Armenians.

[Goga]

Are you sure, you are Kurd from Georgia? Georgian Kurds I know look no way like this Girl. They usually look like Georgians-South Slavs-Armenians.

I don't understand your question.

What is wrong with the girl? How does she look like according to you?

[Alan]

I don't understand your question.

What is wrong with the girl? How does she look like according to you?

She looks Mediterranean but one of the further Southern types. Yezidi Kurds from Georgia look very different usually.

[MOESAN]

She looks Mediterranean but one of the further Southern types. Yezidi Kurds from Georgia look very different usually.

I've no more the details but a survey on cephalic index on Kurdish tribes showed 4 tribes with brachycephalic means (or subbrachy) an one meso- or subdolicho - So I think that as a whole (on what I saw myself too) Kurdish people is an ancient mixture with alpine, dinaric, indo-afghan or 'eurafrican', and 'arab' or 'semitic' true gracile mediterranean type, and some nordic light strains: it's to say that, even with different rates, their mixture is not to far from the Armenian one - the brachycephalic elements came from Caucasus or Western Anatolia at the Chalcolithic period, for the most of them - I believed I saw a tiny South Asian strain acting on the skin colour, very light and uneasy to determine phénotypically, more on the side of veddoid types, maybe - hard to say, to tiny.
- the indo-afghan (what you call 'iranic' maybe) and mediterranean elements could have been in Kudistan very long time ago yet (because it's thought now that Arabic peoples came from North in the Arabic Peninsula - Indo-Europeans have send principally nordic and indo-afghan elements and are far to be the principal component of today Kurds -the same for a lot of so called Iranic people that are only partially indo-european I think (like a lot of indo-european speaking peoples of Europe) -

[Alan]

I've no more the details but a survey on cephalic index on Kurdish tribes showed 4 tribes with brachycephalic means (or subbrachy) an one meso- or subdolicho - So I think that as a whole (on what I saw myself too) Kurdish people is an ancient mixture with alpine, dinaric, indo-afghan or 'eurafrican', and 'arab' or 'semitic' true gracile mediterranean type, and some nordic light strains: it's to say that, even with different rates, their mixture is not to far from the Armenian one - the brachycephalic elements came from Caucasus or Western Anatolia at the Chalcolithic period, for the most of them - I believed I saw a tiny South Asian strain acting on the skin colour, very light and uneasy to determine phénotypically, more on the side of veddoid types, maybe - hard to say, to tiny.
- the indo-afghan (what you call 'iranic' maybe) and mediterranean elements could have been in Kudistan very long time ago yet (because it's thought now that Arabic peoples came from North in the Arabic Peninsula - Indo-Europeans have send principally nordic and indo-afghan elements and are far to be the principal component of today Kurds -the same for a lot of so called Iranic people that are only partially indo-european I think (like a lot of indo-european speaking peoples of Europe) -

Well Kurds almost lack South Asian (less than 1%) Genes according to K12a and have more of the Gedrosia component which is in fact the twin of Caucasus with strong affinities toward North European and paleolithic Central Asian. This Gedrosia component is probably a Iranian-Mediterranean phenotype. Just like I already mentioned on Dienekes v3 admixture. The so called "South Asian" among Kurds in Dodecad was actually ANI paleolithic South-Central Asian.

The Kurdish samples have 25% of this Gedrosia (Iranian-Mediterranean) component

It is also important to mention that the samples are heavily biased toward Iran and Iraq. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ldWxwVmc#gid=0


The Southwest Asian (Semitic) genes were probably brought by Akkadians, Assyrians and other more recent semitic waves like the Islamic expansion. But this still is very low and played not a big role in Kurds (9-13.5%)

[Goga]

I believe that the Southwest Asian (Semitic) component is more from the Jews and the ancient Chaldeans, than from the Akkadians, Assyrians and Arabs. Some of it is also an import from the East Med. coast that came with the Romans, Greeks etc.

A confederation of Hurro-Iranic tribes which was later called the Median confederation (the Medes) together with the Chaldeans destroyed the Semitic (Akkadian/Assyrian) tribes in the south. Later the Medes (Hurro-Iranic folks) and Chaldeans dissapeared and became 1 (Kurdish) nation...