Who overlaps with the Iberians?

[Carlos]

But I'd maintain also that when you do find a good match between them, North Africans and Iberians can be very close. This girl is an example, she looks a lot like many Portuguese and southern Spanish women:

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Very pretty girl, but in southern Spain would not be a common aspect, Leila is very homogeneous, even if I hurry it would be easier to find it in Galicia or Castilla than in Andalusia.

 

[Carlos]

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Adriana Porrero

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Anabel Armario

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Macarena Gómez

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Verónica Sánchez

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Cristina Peña

Here I leave a small representation of current Andalusian women

 

[Seanp]

The North African/Near Eastern ancestry is overestimated in Iberia. Even Andalusians score less than 20% North African admixture for the most part. This is the autosomal result of a Spanish person from Murcia i've shared a distant match which is weird considering i'm Hun. MDLP World 22

#	Population	Percent
1	Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic	40.29
2	North-East-European	25.78
3	Near_East	16.86
4	West-Asian	9.28
5	Sub-Saharian	3.76
6	Indo-Iranian	1.64
7	Melanesian	1.1
8	East-South-Asian	0.51
9	Samoedic	0.39
10	Arctic-Amerind	0.3
11	Mesoamerican	0.08

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Italian-North (derived)	8.22
2	Corsican (derived)	8.71
3	Portugese (derived)	9.29
4	Ashkenazim_V (derived)	10.31
5	Italian_North (derived)	11.57
6	Greek_South (derived)	11.94
7	Iberian (derived)	11.94
8	Provancestralal (derived)	12.57
9	Kosovar (derived)	12.73
10	Italian-Center (derived)	12.98
11	Greek_North (derived)	13.18
12	Greek_Center (derived)	13.37
13	Swiss (derived)	13.49
14	Italian-South (derived)	14
15	Jew_Romania (derived)	14.12
16	Spaniard (derived)	14.17
17	Greek_East (derived)	14.52
18	Puerto-Rican (derived)	14.62
19	Sicilian (derived)	15.05
20	Romania (derived)	15.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1		81%	Portugese (derived)	+	19%	Jordanian (derived)	@	2.72
2		76.5%	Iberian (derived)	+	23.5%	Jordanian (derived)	@	2.84
3		83.9%	Portugese (derived)	+	16.1%	Yemen (derived)	@	2.88
4		79.9%	Iberian (derived)	+	20.1%	Yemen (derived)	@	2.88
5		76.9%	Spaniard (derived)	+	23.1%	Yemen (derived)	@	2.89
6		76.6%	Italian_North (derived)	+	23.4%	Mozabite (derived)	@	2.98
7		75%	Spaniard (derived)	+	25%	Egyptian (derived)	@	3.16
8		81.6%	Portugese (derived)	+	18.4%	Palestinian (derived)	@	3.17
9		82.6%	Portugese (derived)	+	17.4%	Egyptian (derived)	@	3.2
10		86.3%	Portugese (derived)	+	13.7%	Saudi (derived)	@	3.4
11		73.3%	Spaniard (derived)	+	26.7%	Jordanian (derived)	@	3.43
12		85.6%	Portugese (derived)	+	14.4%	Bedouin (derived)	@	3.45
13		77.2%	Iberian (derived)	+	22.8%	Palestinian (derived)	@	3.51
14		81.5%	Portugese (derived)	+	18.5%	Syrian (derived)	@	3.51
15		78.4%	Iberian (derived)	+	21.6%	Egyptian (derived)	@	3.51
16		90%	Italian-North (derived)	+	10%	Jew-Ethiopia (derived)	@	3.64
17		78.9%	Spaniard (derived)	+	21.1%	Bedouin (derived)	@	3.66
18		90.1%	Italian-North (derived)	+	9.9%	Jew_Ethiopia (derived)	@	3.75
19		82.8%	Iberian (derived)	+	17.2%	Saudi (derived)	@	3.81
20		78.7%	Italian_North (derived)	+	21.3%	Moroccan (derived)	@	3.82

Only 20% North African admixture considering you'd expect much more after 800 years of Moorish rule.

 

[Carlos]

We have our particular mix that is unique and we resemble ourselves. Since legendary times among the Spaniards of other regions the Andalusians have a reputation for great beauty, hence the myths in literature of the work La lozana andaluza, or the pictorial works of Julio Romero de Torres, are the women most desired by the Spaniards, Topic is not a myth in Spain.

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Amparo Muñoz
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Anita Delgado

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Carmen Sevilla

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Karina

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Marisol

Para muestra un botón, como decimos los españoles. To show a button, as the Spaniards say.

Greetings dear friends yesterday yesterday and always, good night.

 

[Blanco]

Iberians are diverse looking people. Some look like North/West Europeans and some look like lighter North Africans/Near Easterners while the vast majority look like other South Europeans or have a specific look which only exist in the Iberian peninsula.

 

[stevenarmstrong]

The North African/Near Eastern ancestry is overestimated in Iberia. Even Andalusians score less than 20% North African admixture for the most part. This is the autosomal result of a Spanish person from Murcia i've shared a distant match which is weird considering i'm Hun. MDLP World 22.

I tested myself using the same matrix. I'm almost 100% northwestern European.

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 47.79
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.67
3 West-Asian 6.05
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.20
5 Indo-Iranian 2.33
6 Near_East 1.98
7 North-Amerind 1.18

1 and 2 have pretty much been flopped, showing that my unusually high percentage of Iberian DNA most likely dates back to a Neolithic population divergence. I suspect a Bell Beaker connection. Near East influence is also much less pronounced in my profile.

[FONT=&quot]Using 1 population approximation:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 Welsh @ 3.738122[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 CEU_V @ 3.873846[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 CEU @ 4.063993[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 German_V @ 4.172321[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 British @ 4.677317[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 Austrian @ 4.684171[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 Orcadian @ 6.011625[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 German-South @ 6.948471[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 Norwegian_V @ 7.162443[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 Hungarian @ 7.986369[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 German-North @ 8.697233[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 Swedish @ 8.772057[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 Slovenian @ 9.339113[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 German @ 9.897456[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 Serbian @ 9.978388[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Croatian @ 10.061504[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 Bosnian @ 10.831222[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 Swedish_V @ 11.923622[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 Montenegrin @ 12.212621[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 French @ 12.386486[/FONT]

 

[binx]

In my opinion French are the closest. Then, Italians, English and Irish show a lot of similarities too.

Vast majority of French are pretty different from the Iberians, except the South-Western French.

 

[Carlos]

I see the Iberians at least in appearance, it is possible that I am wrong. It is easier for me to find or see, in my own way, very pure Iberian women at least as men, within the difficulty as I believe that our particular Spanish mixture has diluted or overlapped the typical Iberian phenotypes that I think should be straight hair, little hair body or almost none in men.
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Charo López

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Montserrat Caballé

 

[Carlos]

Algunos más, bajo mi percepción de como debían ser las características de los íberos.

Some more, under my perception of how they should be the characteristics of the Iberians.


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Actriz catalana

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Manzanares torero

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[AdeoF]

I did a DNA test and I mostly overlap with Italians (Roman/more north and central) and the Celtic-Germanic people (more Celtic), but of a lesser extent the Occitanians aswell.

 

[brick]

Southwestern French and North and Central Italians.

 

[Georgewalley]

Southern French, Central Italians, Sardinians the most, despite the stereotype the "North African" leaning phenotypes are rare to non existent among ethnic Spaniards.