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    East Europe, what is it?



    WHat is "Eastern Europe" for you?
    Slovenia or Czech R. are west as Austria or Sweden are.
    Finland is farther east or east as Croatia, Poland, SLovakia, Bosnia, Serbia & MN, Albania....

    Greece is even more to the east, same as Lithuania, Letonia, Estonia,Romania, Belarus......

    West Europe is splited on NOrthern Europe, Southern Europe.....but fro so many people East Europe is all that is not UK, France, Italy, Germany, SPain.....
    From Georgia to SLovenia........From Estonia to Serbia.......

    Former communist countries?
    Most reasons for putting so many different countries with different history, culture, language... under the one term are complitley wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinoeye View Post
    WHat is "Eastern Europe" for you?
    Slovenia or Czech R. are west as Austria or Sweden are.
    Finland is farther east or east as Croatia, Poland, SLovakia, Bosnia, Serbia & MN, Albania....

    Greece is even more to the east, same as Lithuania, Letonia, Estonia,Romania, Belarus......

    West Europe is splited on NOrthern Europe, Southern Europe.....but fro so many people East Europe is all that is not UK, France, Italy, Germany, SPain.....
    From Georgia to SLovenia........From Estonia to Serbia.......

    Former communist countries?
    Most reasons for putting so many different countries with different history, culture, language... under the one term are complitley wrong.
    right, the terminology is not after map directions,
    but it depends on time
    in 50's could be iron curtain
    in another time like the schisma of the church could be the areas that exist Orthodox Churces, and west could be the area of the Catholic churches,
    in linguistic means mainly the Slavic and Baltic languages including Albania, (greece hungary are not not)
    you can also compare to karlomagnus as west Europe,
    it depends the criteria you put,
    but mainly the terminology is not according map, but according the discussion,

    for example Slovenia could be East Europe to Cold war times, East Europe due to Satem language and Slavic connection, West Europe due to Catholic church etc. but it is in the middle of Europe.

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    I think that most of people consider it the former communist countries.

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    Some people say-east Europe for Slavic Countries. However, Baltic countries, Hungary, Albania, Romania, Greece, Georgia, Moldova...are not Slavic. In the Usa too, most people consider former communist countries as East Europe.

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    I think it is wrong to put so many different countries, with different culture, history, origin....under one term. Because of that, people do not know that Serbia is different than Estonia, the same way Portugal is different than Norway.

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    There are several different geographical divisions. One is in the head of people that where Russia starts, East of Europe ends.

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    I had long arguments with my ex-girlfriend, a Pole, who was against me using the adjective Eastern European to describe her native Poland. To her, she was central European. We never got over it, as me being western European, she was definitely more eastern geographically than I was. As a general thing, Eastern Europe is regarded as the former Warsaw pact countries. Vienna is considered western but is east from Prague, the Eastern capital per excellence. See the book from Slovenian diplomat Leon Marc "What's so Eastern about Eastern Europe" from an East European point of view to the problem. It is not a great book per se but has the merit to deconstruct a lot of clichés and half-truths. As a matter of fact, many people from that part of Europe see the "Eastern European" adjective as pejorative and limit insulting.
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    Cinoeye, I thing using a term englobing several nationalities is not "wrong" but rather unaccurate or inexact. Same thing can be said about catholics, blacks, vegetarians,... there are a lot of different specificities in every human group as those are all made of different individualities with unique traits. When people start bickering about their difference with next-door neighbours over an adjective to underline their own differences, the door opens to stupid and dangerous arguments.
    Remember that, as an individual, you are unique... like everyone else...
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    It is time for Eastern Europeans to work hard and bring a positive meaning and a pride to "Eastern Europe". Soviets are dead, let's use the window of opportunity.

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    So, where is the center of Europe then?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geograp...oint_of_Europe

    If we average the black dots, we can approximate west/east on German/Polish border, and north/south on top of Czech republic, Belgium and north Ukraine. Geographically speaking of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post

    Yes so now France is an Atlantic, a Central, a South Eurpean and a mediterrenean too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Yes so now France is an Atlantic, a Central, a South Eurpean and a mediterrenean too
    But we don't have Eastern Europe anymore. So many people should be happy. :)

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    Focus on Central Europe

    It is true, till an early 1950´s there was a widely used term of Mitteleuropa, or Central Europe, which included countries form Germany to Poland, Switzerland to Hungary.

    The term of "Eastern Rurope" which includes all former Soviet Bloc countries according to the Iron Curtain line, became familiar after 50´s. The true is, that so called "Soviet" or Russian culture was only temporarily imposed and met no signiuficant traces in cultures of several countries (Poland is different due to longer Russian influence in the past). But, after the fall of totalitarian rule in that region, some countries came back to the term how to describe themselves - as Central Europeans - Czechs, Poles, Slovaks, Hungarians. Part of its citizens consider marking them as "Eastern Europeans" as negative expression.

    Nowadays, we definitely should, in the case of Poland, Czechs, Slovakia, Hungary or Slovenia, and I would with some objections add Croataia as well, to came back using the term "Central Europe" describing those mentioned countries, and Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia as Baltic countries, not Eastern European countries.

    I think this will need at least two generations, because the heritage of post WWII division is still widely used even in scientific works inside, and outside of Europe.

    Another problem is, there is still a sound discrepancy between the level of life (economy, GDP, etc.) at the heart of Central Europe - between Germany and Austria on one side, and Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary and Poland on the other side. If those differencies will be partially overcomed, I think we could see the revival of Central Europe as a strong region, also in minds of non-Europeans.

    Historically, culturally, religiously and through sharing the same or similar values, the Central Europe belongs to so called Western European civilisation, including Bavaria, Bohemia, Moravia, modern boundaries Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, and not forgetting - Transylvania (a part of Romania). This is very important to know especially for those who would like to know the region in deep.

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