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    Which are the economic engines of Europe?



    Based on wikipedia i found this list: (could it be reliable?) based on total region gdp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Union_by_GDP

    1 Paris metropolitan area, France
    2 Greater London, United Kingdom
    3 Rhine-Ruhr, Germany
    4 Milan metropolitan are, Italy
    5 Randstad, Netherlands
    6 Frankfurt/Rhine-Main, Germany
    7 Madrid metropolitan area, Spain
    8 Munich region, Germany
    9 Hamburg metropolitan region, Germany
    10 Rome metropolitan area, Italy
    11 Berlin metropolitan region, Germany
    12 Athens metropolitan area, Greece
    13 Barcelona metropolitan area, Spain
    14 West Midlands, United Kingdom
    15 Stuttgart Region, Germany
    16 Stockholm metropolitan area, Sweden
    17 Vienna metropolitan area, Austria
    18 Copenhagen metropolitan area, Denmark
    19 Dublin metropolitan area, Ireland
    20 Leeds-Bradford, United Kingdom
    21 Greater Manchester, United Kingdom
    22 Hanover region, Germany
    23 Lyon metropolitan area, France
    24 Lisbon metropolitan area, Portugal
    25 Brussels capital region, Belgium



    here is instead the BLUE BANANA
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_banana




    Heres the GOLDEN BANANA or Sunbelt
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Banana



    GROENE HART = RANDSTAD
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groene_Hart



    FLEMISH DIAMOND
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemish_Diamond

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    So the rest of Europe is consuming what the blue banana produce?

    hmmm maybe it is time for the rest EU countries to start taxation in borders so to stop consuming the blue banana

    I wonder then where the blue banana sell its products? to Africa maybe? they will import yellow banana and export blue banana

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    It seems pretty accurate to me, I am surprised at how many German regions are making the list, and I am also thinking that the cities that hold governments are a marker that economy is directly linked to the link to power. I am surprised Antwerp, one of the biggest ports in Europe, doesn't make the list. Also, Luxembourg should be somewhere there, for the amount of cash generated by the services activity. I checked your link and I find the second list more interesting. See how the differences in GDP between the first 5 cities are striking. Great link, thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julia90 View Post

    here is instead the BLUE BANANA
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_banana
    The blue area is the economic core of Europe since the middle age

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    All this infos are from EUROSTAT





    some interesting maps, this time about specific employment typolgy (this however doesn't indicate the economic power of a region but its economic specification.. which is as interesting as it)

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    Regional specialisation

    The shares of the non-financial business economy workforce working in the industrial sector and in the non-financial services sector in 2008 are shown in Maps 1 and 2. Relatively high shares of industrial employment were found in regions of Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Slovakia, with the Slovakian region of Západné Slovensko recording the highest share at 60.2 %.
    Non-financial services employment accounted for over 80 % of the non-financial business economy workforce in at least nine regions, mainly in or bordering major urban areas such as Berlin, Hamburg and Köln in Germany, København in Denmark, Noord-Holland in the Netherlands, and Inner London and the surrounding south-east of England. The highest share was 92.5 % in Inner London.
    Table 1 shows which region was the most specialised in 2007 on a more detailed activity level (all NACE divisions within each NACE section) and, as a comparison, the median and average share of the non-financial business economy workforce among all regions in theEU-27 and Norway.
    Manufacturing activities which involve the primary processing stages of agricultural, fishing or forestry products tend to be concentrated in areas close to the source of the raw material. The regions most specialised in food manufacturing (NACE 10) were all located in rural areas in or close to agricultural production centres: Podlaskie (the most specialised of all the regions), Lubelskie and Warmińsko-Mazurskie in the eastern part of Poland, Dél-Alföld in Hungary, Região Autónoma dos Açores in Portugal and Lincolnshire in the UK. Heavily forested Nordic and Baltic regions were the most specialised regions in the manufacture of wood and wood products (NACE 16) and in the related manufacturing of paper and paper products (NACE 17). Itä-Suomi (Finland) was the most specialised region in wood and wood products and Norra Mellansverige (Sweden) in pulp and paper.
    Regions traditionally associated with tourism, i.e. in Portugal, Spain and Italy, were the most specialised in accommodation (NACE 55) and food service activities (NACE 56). Accommodation services accounted for more than 20 % of the workforce in Algarve in the south of Portugal, the Spanish Illes Balears and Provincia Autonoma Bolzano/Bozen in the north-east of Italy on the border with Austria. Algarve was also the most specialised in food service activities.
    Construction activities (NACE 41–43) accounted for the highest shares of the workforce in Região Autónoma dos Açores in Portugal and in a few Spanish regions. Transport services are also influenced by location, with water transport (NACE 50) naturally being important for coastal regions and islands, while air transport (NACE 51) is also important for regions with or close to major cities, but also for island regions (especially those with a developed tourism industry).
    The small island region of Åland (Finland) is a centre for the ferry services between Sweden and Finland and other Baltic Sea traffic. Åland was very highly specialised in water transport, which accounted for over 35 % of persons employed in 2008, more than six times more than the next most specialised region, Vestlandet, and more than 10 times more than the third, Nord-Norge (both in Norway). Outer London was the region most specialised in air transport, followed by Noord-Holland (Dutch region of Amsterdam), Köln in Germany and the Portuguese islands in Região Autónoma dos Açores.
    Specialisation in real estate activities (NACE 68), professional scientific and technical activities (NACE 69–75) and administrative and support service activities (NACE 77–82) may be based on access to a critical mass of clients (enterprises or households) or to a knowledge base (external researchers and qualified staff). Latvia was most specialised in real estate (NACE 68) in 2008, ahead of Rheinhessen-Pfalz and Koblenz (both in Germany) and Közép-Magyarország (Hungary). Inner London (UK) was most specialised in professional scientific and technical activities (NACE 69–75), while Flevoland (Netherlands) was most specialised in administrative and support service activities (NACE 77–82).
    Figure 1 indicates that the widest spread (from lowest to highest) in the share of an activity in each region’s non-financial business economy workforce concerned manufacturing activities. In contrast, the employment spread for activities like construction and distributive trades, which tend to serve more local clients and are large, basic activities present in each region, was much narrower.
    Manufacturing accounted for only 2.4 % of persons employed in Ciudad Autónoma de Melilla (Spain) and under 10 % in a further 11 regions, including the capital regions of the Netherlands, Spain and the United Kingdom. The distribution of the remaining regions was relatively symmetrical, from 10 % to almost half of the workforce in two Czech regions: Střední Morava with 47.7 % and Severovýchod with 48.3 %. Západné Slovensko (Slovakia) was the only region where the share of employment in manufacturing exceeded half the non-financial business economy workforce (54.7 %). In contrast, the spread of employment was much narrower in distributive trades (NACE section G), which was the activity displaying the highest median employment, present in all regions and serving more local clients. Shares ranged from 12.3 % in Région de Bruxelles-Capitale/Brussels Hoofdstedelijk Gewest (Belgium) and less then 15 % in Åland (Finland) and in another four regions in Belgium, to more than a third in Ciudad Autónoma de Ceuta and Ciudad Autónoma de Melilla (Spain).
    On the other hand, transport and storage (NACE section H) and mining and quarrying (NACE section B) are two activities with a few strong outlier regions that are highly specialised. In fact, there were only two regions where the share of employment in transport, storage and communication exceeded 20 %. The highest specialisation of the Finnish island region of Åland, where almost half of the workforce (46.4 %) was employed in this sector, is due almost exclusively to the importance of water transport. Åland was far ahead of Köln in Germany (20.4 %). Natural endowments play an important role in mining and quarrying. Many regions record little or no such activity, with only very few regions being highly specialised on account of deposits of metallic ores, coal, oil or gas. Mining and quarrying accounted for less than 0.1 % of persons employed in a quarter of all regions, and between 0.1 % and 0.5 % in half of the regions. However, it did account for over 4 % in five regions and as much as a 10th of the total non-financial business economy workforce in North Eastern Scotland (United Kingdom) and Śląskie (Poland).
    Business concentration

    While an analysis of specialisation shows the relative importance of different activities in the regions, regardless of the size of the region or the activity, an analysis of concentration looks at the dominance of certain regions within an activity, or activities within a region. In most activities, there are many examples of regions that are ranked highly in terms of both specialisation and concentration.
    Map 3 gives an indication of how concentrated or diversified the regional business economy was in 2008, measured as the share of the five largest activities (NACE divisions) in the total non-financial business economy workforce. The level of concentration tends to be higher in regions where trade and services dominate the business economy, as industrial activities are more fragmented. By this measure, the most concentrated regions were generally in countries traditionally associated with tourism (in particular Spain, Portugal and Italy), underlining the importance of construction, trade, and accommodation and food service activities in tourism-oriented regions. In addition, high business concentration was observed in Danish, Irish, Polish and British regions as well as in Latvia and Lithuania.
    In contrast, the lowest business concentrations were recorded mainly in regions with a relatively small services sector and a large manufacturing sector in eastern Europe (in particular in Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Hungary), although low shares were also recorded in Sweden and Finland (except for the island region of Åland). The five largest activities accounted for less than a third of total employment in five regions in the Czech Republic, two in Belgium and one in Spain.
    Figure 2 shows the extent to which employment in certain activities was concentrated in a limited number of regions in 2008.
    Four of the five mining and quarrying activities topped the rankings in terms of the share of total employment in the EU-27 and Norway, and of the 10 regions with the largest workforces. The most concentrated was the mining of metal ores (NACE 07), with persons employed in only a fifth of all the regions in 2008.
    Air transport (NACE 51) and leather and leather products manufacturing (NACE 15) were also highly concentrated in the 10 largest regions, which together accounted for 43 % and 49 % of total employment respectively. In the case of air transport, this dominance is due to the concentration in large metropolitan regions where the large airports are situated: chief among them are the regions of Paris, Outer London, Köln, Amsterdam and Madrid. Leather and leather products manufacturing, on the other hand, is a small activity in Europe, heavily concentrated in Italy and Romania: three of the 10 regions with the largest workforces were situated in Italy, three in Romania and one each in Portugal, Spain, Slovakia and Bulgaria. The region with the largest workforce was Toscana in Italy, with 41 000 persons employed, but it ranked only third, accounting for almost 4 % of the total leather manufacturing workforce in the EU-27 and Norway. Concentration of this activity was slightly higher in Nord-Vest (Romania) and reached the highest level in Marche (6.6 %) in Italy.
    In contrast to the more specialised types of mining and quarrying, ‘other mining and quarrying’ (NACE 08) was among the activities in which the 10 largest regions were least dominant, accounting for only 12 % of total sectoral employment. This is due to the widespread availability and local sourcing of many construction materials, such as sand and stone, which dominate this type of quarrying in most regions. Of all the activities (NACE divisions), retail trade (NACE 47), specialised construction activities (NACE 43), motor trades and repair (NACE 45) and food manufacturing (NACE 10) had the lowest concentration in 2007, but, in contrast to ‘other mining and quarrying’, these are all major activities in terms of employment in the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spongetaro View Post
    The blue area is the economic core of Europe since the middle age
    i agree, it seems the european geoeconomy hasn't shifted since the middle ages.. northern italy was a financial center (but also tuscany), north.eastern france was the centre of fairs (notably near the champagne region), the flanders were a textile manufacturers, the west part of germany was famous for it's mining centres, where one could extract cooks, that part of england bloomed during the industrial revolution, thanks firstly ro its mining cooks, and manchester was one big centre of industry..

    the anseatic league it's not present in the blue banana, but probably today it forms another industrial continuum that follows the ancient geoeconomy of the hanseatic league.

    some marinare cities are absent from the blue banana such as pisa (nowdays dead), barcelona, that nowdays form the golden banana cluster

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    The end of the first industrial revolution has also tilted the balance quite dramatically, with places like the Belgian Borinage (along with Liège and the northern France coal mining basin), once thriving economic centers being reduced to economic deserts with high unemployment rates. Some parts of England have also been badly affected by the shift of the economy from manufacturing and primary to a services industry. The former eastern Germany Länder have also paid a heavy price after the Russians dismantled the industrial sector. Another place which only is a shadow of her (Middle-Age and renaissance) former self (and maybe the most impressive exemple of decline) is Venise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimmerianbloke View Post
    The end of the first industrial revolution has also tilted the balance quite dramatically, with places like the Belgian Borinage (along with Liège and the northern France coal mining basin), once thriving economic centers being reduced to economic deserts with high unemployment rates. Some parts of England have also been badly affected by the shift of the economy from manufacturing and primary to a services industry. The former eastern Germany Länder have also paid a heavy price after the Russians dismantled the industrial sector. Another place which only is a shadow of her (Middle-Age and renaissance) former self (and maybe the most impressive exemple of decline) is Venise.
    unfortunately another part that is getting business dead is central italy with tuscany, northern italy is more resistent, for now.. but thanks to the past bad politics and politicians italy is going backward to an unindustrialized country..
    every day there is some little entrepreneur who kills himself because guardia di finanza and equitalia, want them to pay instantly their debts....
    in italy there is a clima of persecution carried on by the state against its citizens.. mario monti says every day that the-tax evasors must be punished.. in reality those who are punished aren't the big companies that evade the more, but the little entrepreneurs, whose evasion in absolute therms is less than those big companies
    mario monti believs that the italian economy can be saved with persecution and terror..
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/wo..._131533550.htm
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ita...&NewsCatID=344
    here a famous tv spots transmitted almost everyday on tv..
    it says "tax evasors are parasites of the society".. comparing desperate people with amoebas and little bacterias
    in reality the true parasites of the society are our shit politicians

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    Quote Originally Posted by julia90 View Post
    unfortunately another part that is getting business dead is central italy with tuscany, northern italy is more resistent, for now.. but thanks to the past bad politics and politicians italy is going backward to an unindustrialized country..
    every day there is some little entrepreneur who kills himself because guardia di finanza and equitalia, want them to pay instantly their debts....
    in italy there is a clima of persecution carried on by the state against its citizens.. mario monti says every day that the-tax evasors must be punished.. in reality those who are punished aren't the big companies that evade the more, but the little entrepreneurs, whose evasion in absolute therms is less than those big companies
    mario monti believs that the italian economy can be saved with persecution and terror..
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/wo..._131533550.htm
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ita...&NewsCatID=344
    here a famous tv spots transmitted almost everyday on tv..
    it says "tax evasors are parasites of the society".. comparing desperate people with amoebas and little bacterias
    in reality the true parasites of the society are our shit politicians
    How typical of people like Monti...attack easy, defenceless targets like the small entrepreneur and allow big companies, bankers and politicians to get away with everything.


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