Help in defining my R1b haplogroup

Kardu said:
Right, sorry, I've just re-read previous posts and saw that it was a backbone test (I thought it was a deep-clade). Yeah, it wouldn't go downstream. So in this case R1b1b2a1a by 23andme is correct.
It can get more specific (or just confirm the 23andme result) if you order the deep-clade test.
Click to expand...

Is there someway I can save a few bucks and time by using 23andme mutation mapper to pinpoint or guess my subclade?
 
Just send him an email.

Thanks again Kardu, you really been a great help with all of this!
 
Sure, glad to help if I can :)
 
I went and got the deepclade test so I'll be posting my results in 3-4 weeks hopefully
 
Cool :) Any news from Squecco?
 
Ftdna just told me my deepclade results won't come till December 17 and I'm already dieing of the wait...can anyone at least tell me if my dys value leans towards p312 or u106? I did the prediction and I got this

R1b-North/South 2 =>32% R1b-Leinster =>32% R1b =>7% R1b-North/South 1 =>7% R1b-S26 =>7% R1b-S28 =>7% R1b-IrishIII =>2% R1b-Ub =>2% I-P37.2 =>1% R1b-Frisian =>1% R1b-C.Europe =>1%

as for my dys value they are as followed:
DYS393-13
DYS390-24
DYS19**-14
DYS391-11
DYS385-12-14
DYS426-12
DYS388-13
DYS439-12
DYS389i-15
DYS392-13
DYS389ii***-31
 
joechill01 said:
Ftdna just told me my deepclade results won't come till December 17 and I'm already dieing of the wait...can anyone at least tell me if my dys value leans towards p312 or u106? I did the prediction and I got this

R1b-North/South 2 =>32% R1b-Leinster =>32% R1b =>7% R1b-North/South 1 =>7% R1b-S26 =>7% R1b-S28 =>7% R1b-IrishIII =>2% R1b-Ub =>2% I-P37.2 =>1% R1b-Frisian =>1% R1b-C.Europe =>1%

as for my dys value they are as followed:
DYS393-13
DYS390-24
DYS19**-14
DYS391-11
DYS385-12-14
DYS426-12
DYS388-13
DYS439-12
DYS389i-15
DYS392-13
DYS389ii***-31
Click to expand...

Haplogroup Probability
R1b1b2-M269 58%
 
zanipolo said:
Haplogroup Probability
R1b1b2-M269 58%
Click to expand...

ftdna confirmed that r1b1b2 is indeed my haplogroup but I'm interested on the subclade that I might fall into. Does the information I posted help in anyway?
 
joechill01 said:
ftdna confirmed that r1b1b2 is indeed my haplogroup but I'm interested on the subclade that I might fall into. Does the information I posted help in anyway?
Click to expand...


[h=4]R1b1a2 (R-M269)[/h] R1b1a2 (2011 name) is defined by the presence of SNP marker M269. R1b1a2* or M269(xL23) is found at highest frequency in the central Balkans notably Kosovo with 7.9%, Macedonia 5.1% and Serbia 4.4%.[7] Kosovo is notable in also having a high percentage of descendant L23* or L23(xM412) at 11.4% unlike most other areas with significant percentages of M269* and L23* except for Poland with 2.4% and 9.5% and the Bashkirs of southeast Bashkortostan with 2.4% and 32.2% respectively.[7] Notably this Bashkir population also has a high percentage of M269 sister branch M73 at 23.4%.[7] Five individuals out of 110 tested in the Ararat Valley, Armenia belonged to R1b1a2* and 36 to L23*, with none belonging to subclades of L23.[29]
European R1b is dominated by R-M269. It has been found at generally low frequencies throughout central Eurasia,[24] but with relatively high frequency among Bashkirs of the Perm Region (84.0%).[3] This marker is also present in China and India at frequencies of less than one percent. The table below lists in more detail the frequencies of M269 in various regions in Asia, Europe, and Africa.
The frequency is about 71% in Scotland, 70% in Spain and 60% in France. In south-eastern England the frequency of this clade is about 70%; in parts of the rest of north and western England, Spain, Portugal, Wales and Ireland, it is as high as 90%; and in parts of north-western Ireland it reaches 98%. It is also found in North Africa, where its frequency surpasses 10% in some parts of Algeria.[30]
From 2003 to 2005 what is now R1b1a2 was designated R1b3. From 2005 to 2008 it was R1b1c. From 2008 to 2011 it was R1b1b2.
M269
still un-defined R-M269* (R1b1a2*)
L23
still un-defined R-L23* (R1b1a2a*)
L150
still un-defined R-L150* (R1ba2a1*)
L51/M412
still un-defined R-L51*/R-M412* (R1b1a2a1a*)
P310/L11
still un-defined R-P310/L11* (R1b1a2a1a1*)
U106 R-U106 (R1b1a2a1a1a)
P312 R-P312 (R1b1a2a1a1b)
R-L277 (R1b1a1a1b)


You have to pay for a SNP test.

I suggest you join a project team, and they can suggest one for you.
 
Just got an email back from Squecco, I got (R-M269 L52+)
 
joechill01 said:
Just got an email back from Squecco, I got (R-M269 L52+)
Click to expand...

L52 is in the same location on the R1b tree as L11. You can find L11 on Maciamo's tree here or on the ISOGG tree here. Still not very specific... you haven't tested P312/S116 or U106/S21?
 
joechill01 said:
Just got an email back from Squecco, I got (R-M269 L52+)
Click to expand...

What would that make me? I ask because I read that the highest percentage of m269 can be found with the bashkir people, 84% according to wiki but on the flip side 71% can be found in Scotland, 70% in Spain, 60% in France and a whooping 90% in north and western England, Portugal, Spain, Wales and Ireland but 98% north-western Ireland so pretty much Celtic areas which is common for r1b I believe.

So I ask what is L52 and what background does it hint to? I ask because I can find almost no information on it
 
sparkey said:
L52 is in the same location on the R1b tree as L11. You can find L11 on Maciamo's tree here or on the ISOGG tree here. Still not very specific... you haven't tested P312/S116 or U106/S21?
Click to expand...

Thanks Sparky and I'm taking a deepclade test with ftdna which the results should come around dec.17 if that still counts as a p312 and U106 test
 
According to Maciamo L11/S127, P311/S128, P310/S129 - Western Centum Indo-European speakers (Italo-Celtic and Germanic branches)
 
Does anyone know how to interpret Y-DNA STR tests? I did a ancestral map with Ancestral Origins along a go and never gave it much thought (because my strength indicators are all over Europe I couldn't make much of it) so I went online and read that STR tracks recent ancestry but can help in predicting your haplogroup. So here's my target profile:

14/18 16/17 20/21 12/15 28/30 14/15 10/12 8/? 10/11 10/11 8/11 8/9 10/11

Also just a side question, the website gave me this as well:

Total number of people with a complete set of genetic data at the genes in your target = 4631 <----- does that mean I'm related to 4631 people? o_O
 
well I was suppose to get my ftdna results yesterday but the people of ftdna told me that I needed another 3 week because they found another hit and need more testing, in their own words "Your sample requires more than the average number of rounds to complete this testing process.". Should I be worried that their yanking my chain? This wasn't the first time they pushed back the due date.

It is not bad for I did get some results which much to my surprise and new found celtic pride: Its turns out I am P312+ M269+ U106- L144- L1-, which is the opposite of what 23andme was telling me. This news makes me weary of 23andme.
 
joechill01 said:
It is not bad for I did get some results which much to my surprise and new found celtic pride: Its turns out I am P312+ M269+ U106- L144- L1-, which is the opposite of what 23andme was telling me. This news makes me weary of 23andme.
Click to expand...

That's an important start. Now it would be useful to know one step down from P312 (L21/M529 and S28/U152 are perhaps the most likely for you; DF27/S250 and L238/S182 are a couple of other possibilities).
 
sparkey said:
That's an important start. Now it would be useful to know one step down from P312 (L21/M529 and S28/U152 are perhaps the most likely for you; DF27/S250 and L238/S182 are a couple of other possibilities).
Click to expand...

Thanks sparkey, anyway of predicting which one? I only ask since I would like to be able to tell my family something in christmas.

On r1b genetic page on this site, it says l238 is nordic, l21 north atlantic and s28 italo-alpine but no info on df27. Would df27 be iberian or gaulish branch of r1b?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

This thread has been viewed 71699 times.

Back
Top