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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmuneer123 View Post
    I was wondering, why there is northern european component amongst Kurds? I see it is actually higher in Tajikis and Turkmens. Does anyone know why?
    Huh, I see onlly 1.6% and it is almost nothing.

    Tajikistan and Turkmenistan were part of the USSR. So for the same reason why there's Turkic and Mongolian DNA in Eastern Europe. Since the Slavic expansion to the East and Turkic expansion to the West there is a very tight interaction between Central Asian (Turkic) and Slavic tribes. Slavic people are partly Mongoloid.

    In the past there lived a lot Russians and lot Russians are still living in Central Asia. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan etc. A lot Russian females married with Turkic and Mongolian people in Central Asia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Huh, I see onlly 1.6% and it is almost nothing.

    Tajikistan and Turkmenistan were part of the USSR. So for the same reason why there's Turkic and Mongolian DNA in Eastern Europe. Since the Slavic expansion to the East and Turkic expansion to the West there is a very tight interaction between Central Asian (Turkic) and Slavic tribes. Slavic people are partly Mongoloid.

    In the past there lived a lot Russians and lot Russians are still living in Central Asia. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan etc. A lot Russian females married with Turkic and Mongolian people in Central Asia!
    On dodecad calculator it is 4.5%, and 1.6% percent isn't nothing. It is quite significant for a west asian population. I really doubt Tajikis and Turkmens have a higher North western european component due to the soviet union, nor is there evidence that they mixed. I'm also unaware of any early Slavic migrations into central asia.
    Slavs on 'DNA tribes' are mostly Baltic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Great. Kurds have the highest amount of the so called 'Persian' component, 39.5%. As far as I know modern Kurds are as a nation genetically the closest ethnic group to the ancient 'Umman Manda', Iranic folks like the Medes.

    Iranians are after the Kurds the second largest group and are only for about 22.5% 'Persian'.
    It's not meant to be "Median" marker. It is meant to be an 'Indo-Iranian' marker; they just termed it as 'Persian' for some reason. Hence why Bahrainis have a high percentage along with Turkmens, considering the Medes were never in Bahrain, but Persians were.

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    There's more Egyptian, Arabian, Indus Valley and even Iberian component in Kurds than North European component. So it's nothing. Just noice...

    I was born in the USSR, I have seen many examples of mixed marriages between Russian and Turkic Central Asian folks.

    Also I Know Russia history very well. Slavic tribes (Russians) and Turco-Mongolain tribes from central Asia are interaction with each other for thousands of years!

    Eastern Russia toward Siberia was always populated by Turco-Mongolian tribes. Russian expansion toward east is well documented. And Turco-Mongolian expansion in Europe I also well documented

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    As I mentioned "Persian" is a wrong terminus used for this component and obviously stems from the fact that many people still think Iran is equal to Persia. However this component peaks in Northwest Iran/North Mesopotamia/Southeast Caucasus and follows a Southern Caspian root to Northeast Iran-Turkmenistan. This is the legacy of Median/Parthian/Scythian and Mannaean/Hurrian ancestors.
    Nope the component is strictly 'indo-Iranian', but they coined the term abit differently. Considering the caucasus as it's own component and so does 'east med'. Both probably relate to the pre-indo-european populations of west asia such as the Hurrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmuneer123 View Post
    It's not meant to be "Median" marker. It is meant to be an 'Indo-Iranian' marker; they just termed it as 'Persian' for some reason. Hence why Bahrainis have a high percentage along with Turkmens, considering the Medes were never in Bahrain, but Persians were.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmuneer123 View Post
    Nope the component is strictly 'indo-Iranian', but they coined the term abit differently. Considering the caucasus as it's own component and so does 'east med'. Both probably relate to the pre-indo-european populations of west asia such as the Hurrians.
    No, Indo-Iranian folks didn't belong to strictly 1 component. I believe they had also other components in them, like North Caucasus component.

    East Med component in Kurds can be everything: from the Semitic Akkadians, Chaldeans or Jews to Greeks or Armenians or even proto-Indo-Europeans. Or just native to Kurds...

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