Is free energy possible. Was Tesla right?

Could take some time and read post by Agitated. He explains why it is not possible.
As energy might be free, someone has to invest and build the infrastructure to capture it and deliver it to your house. For that reason you will still pay for this "free" energy. If this didn't happen decades ago when electricity was 10 times more expensive than today, surely it means that it is not going to happen today when prices are as low as 10 cents per kilowatt.

Of course, I read. I agree with him that a lot of scientists and engineers contributed this matter, not only Tesla. However Tesla exercised experiments and he needed funding. Maybe he could success and we would live in a different world.

Now, for conspiracy theories, hm., it is for discussion. Tesla was engineer and inventor, big inventor. Inventors generally are interesting for conspiracy theorists. Each inventor may be more or less linked with conspiracy, Tesla was not an exception.

This key question is if free energy is possible. Certainly free energy is not total free and infrastructure carrying costs. If such energy would be generated, contributes would exceed the costs. Is traditional sources of energy are better? What is with fusion of which a few decades much more was heard? What is with alternative sources (wind, sun, geothermal, etc...)? What about with old/new promising sources? What about fantastic sources at the frontiers of science and parascience?

Energy will always be interesting theme and a lot of people will try to be include. However in real world people function in relation to the needs. Inventors as was Tesla can have perfect inventions but they will not be apply if no needs and entrepreneurs who see business opportunities. For now traditional sources and alternate sources are enough. If the world experiencing global warming needs will likely reduce. However, if new ice age coming needs will be enormous higher, if some scientists are right about global cooling. Of course, people can have higher expectations and demands. Entrepreneurs can find that inventions such as Tesla's can be profitable, good business opportunity, and chase them. Maybe some people use these inventions for wars. Etc. We don't know, but future is always uncertain and some inventions remain inventions but another become innovations. We will see what energy sources will be current in next decades.
 
I haven't paid much attention to the "climate change" folks since they switched over from the more specific "global warming" phrase. "Climate change" is so fuzzy a term that it's almost comical, except the forced taxes and fees associated with carbon capture are no laughing matter.

Of course any thinking person realizes the giant thermo-nuclear ball in the center of our galaxy is what determines weather/climate more than any puny man-made factor.
 
I haven't paid much attention to the "climate change" folks since they switched over from the more specific "global warming" phrase. "Climate change" is so fuzzy a term that it's almost comical, except the forced taxes and fees associated with carbon capture are no laughing matter.

Of course any thinking person realizes the giant thermo-nuclear ball in the center of our galaxy is what determines weather/climate more than any puny man-made factor.

You're right. I'm more concerned with the announcement of a new mini ice age from the serious scientists. If ice age coming we will need much more energy and the prices of fuel will jump.
 
This key question is if free energy is possible. Certainly free energy is not total free and infrastructure carrying costs. If such energy would be generated, contributes would exceed the costs.
I don't get that.
In general contributes always exceed the costs in energy production. That's how companies make a profit.

Is traditional sources of energy are better?
You mean cheaper? Unlike Tesla's "free energy from atmosphere" traditional sources work and give us electricity.


What is with fusion of which a few decades much more was heard?
Do you mean hot or cold fusion?
Hot fusion exists, look at our sun, we just didn't learn how to make a reactor yet.
Cold fusion is a fantasy for now.

What is with alternative sources (wind, sun, geothermal, etc...)?
They work fine. They are having hard time to be profitable, because gas or coal gives us even cheaper electricity.

What about with old/new promising sources? What about fantastic sources at the frontiers of science and parascience?
I have no idea what are you talking about.

Entrepreneurs can find that inventions such as Tesla's can be profitable, good business opportunity, and chase them.
Sure we should explore everything. But let's be realistic. Even if "tesla energy" source is free energy, so is the sun energy, or river energy.
If it happens that you live close to a stream, you can build turbine and enjoy your free energy, as soon as you pay off the investment capital and maintenance charges.
Just go and get a solar panel or few of them and you don't need to pay for electricity, right? Well, as soon as you pay off investment and maintenance cost. Nobody will ever charge you for solar rays. It is a free energy.
 
I don't get that.
In general contributes always exceed the costs in energy production. That's how companies make a profit.

You mean cheaper? Unlike Tesla's "free energy from atmosphere" traditional sources work and give us electricity.


Do you mean hot or cold fusion?
Hot fusion exists, look at our sun, we just didn't learn how to make a reactor yet.
Cold fusion is a fantasy for now.

They work fine. They are having hard time to be profitable, because gas or coal gives us even cheaper electricity.

I have no idea what are you talking about.

Sure we should explore everything. But let's be realistic. Even if "tesla energy" source is free energy, so is the sun energy, or river energy.
If it happens that you live close to a stream, you can build turbine and enjoy your free energy, as soon as you pay off the investment capital and maintenance charges.
Just go and get a solar panel or few of them and you don't need to pay for electricity, right? Well, as soon as you pay off investment and maintenance cost. Nobody will ever charge you for solar rays. It is a free energy.

People have needs and expectations. Inventors try to find the new invention in order to complete these needs and expectations, generally human life. But inventions are not innovations. Only entrepreneurs motivated by profits, search for opportunities (individual and environmental factors) to move resources from lower valued to higher valued uses. Inventors can be entrepreneurs too, but often they are different persons.

You're right. Traditional energy sources work fine. Although alternative sources have many agents traditional energetic sources are still dominant. According to some experts the cost-effectiveness of alternative energetic sources is doubtful.

Nuclear fission reactors, although they are constantly improving, have a lot of his opponents. Hot fusion is not solved despite optimism the fifties (previous century). Cold fusion is hypothetical, we will see what will happen in future years.

There are a lot of old/new interesting things in terms of different energy devices. On of them are long lasting super efficient batteries. Inventors are active in finding new ways.

Fantastic source for example is matter-antimatter power. Such a power plant for now is fiction but we cannot know what will be actual in future. New knowledge, new inventions, new implementations.

I think that for mankind come better days because a lot of different energetic alternatives is in play now. Of course these include Tesla's inventions.

People tend not to touch something that is going well. Coal, oil, gas etc. are dominant energy sources today despite many inventions and technology progress. Alternate energy sources have many problems involving additional costs, not to talk about other. When we can expect change. In human society is common when the state changes. For example such a trigger can be shortage of fossil fuels or new ice age. In such situations many entrepreneurs appears who try to use old/new inventions as business chance. Whether these Tesla's inventions experience mass use depends of circumstances (including attractiveness of another inventions) and entrepreneurs who run them.
 
I think that for mankind come better days because a lot of different energetic alternatives is in play now. Of course these include Tesla's inventions.
Great to see you in more optimistic mood. :)

People tend not to touch something that is going well. Coal, oil, gas etc. are dominant energy sources today despite many inventions and technology progress. Alternate energy sources have many problems involving additional costs, not to talk about other.
The cost of the main factor. Traditional sources produce electricity at 10 cents per KWh, solar at 50cents.
But in the future it might be the main source of electricity. As long as our sun shines, we should be ok.
 
Great to see you in more optimistic mood. :)

Yes, I believe in human mind, inventions, entrepreneurship.

For example, environmentalists are concerned about the planet and rightly so, but some of them have catastrophic scenarios. However, despite all the problems, the catastrophic scenarios are not happening and they will not happen. Why?

Because, researchers, inventors, entrepreneurs etc. change world. There was a lot of innovations in ecology which made that planet is better place than previously thought.

For energy and energy resources only two from us said, through the discussion, a number of options, of course there are still. What from that will be relevant in the future we will see, an it depends of many things.

But I'm sure that mankind will find appropriate (an better) replacement for fossil fuels once begin to run out.
 
Tesla was in prison (in his hotel room) for the rest of his life, so I would never call him an "American", because he was not. He died in poverty.

Several of his inventions were stolen from his handbooks; like is the wireless electricity transmission over distance... soon in your favorite markets; wireless cellphone adapter.

Regards to the Free energy...
The best approximation it is the
Quantum vacuum plasma thruster

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...el-quantum-space-engine-and-it-actually-works

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/something-from-nothing-vacuum-can-yield-flashes-of-light/

Faster light (Casimir vacuum and quantum tunnelling) acutally has an effect where are the speeds faster than speed of light itself...When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c. This is known as the Scharnorst effect. Such a vacuum can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. It is called a Casimir vacuum. Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 103 It might be the new "step further" into the interstellar space travel...

note, that things you are seeing now, were already produced in a lab for decades; Russian and American Military projects include experimental "out of time" projects, which do not necessarily follow the laws of physics... It is important they make it, the rest is part of conventional - theoretical physics, if the stuff leaks out...

Energy is all around us, even in vacuum, in lightnings, clouds, wind, seas, sunbeams, we only have to learn how to use it... Tesla saw electric potential in the empty space; vacuum, he called it "Ether". Mechanic ether was disproved in Mychelson-Morley experiment (which opens the door to the Einstein's Special relativity and Lorentz's (& Gallileo Galilei's) transformations...How ever it seems the vacuum can be manipulated. And we can avoid these borders. This concept of separation was proposed by Miguel Alcubierre with his Alcubierre (warp) drive...
I think that discovery or better said uses of the vacuum for Free energy will open doors into the Holy grail of the interstellar space travel... This will be by my opinion biggest achievement of human kind.
 
wireless energy transfer comes from Croatian scientist, nothing to do with stolen research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiTricity

http://witricity.com/

Tesla was in prison (in his hotel room) for the rest of his life, so I would never call him an "American", because he was not. He died in poverty.

Several of his inventions were stolen from his handbooks; like is the wireless electricity transmission over distance... soon in your favorite markets; wireless cellphone adapter.

Regards to the Free energy...
The best approximation it is the
Quantum vacuum plasma thruster

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...el-quantum-space-engine-and-it-actually-works

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/something-from-nothing-vacuum-can-yield-flashes-of-light/

Faster light (Casimir vacuum and quantum tunnelling) acutally has an effect where are the speeds faster than speed of light itself...When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c. This is known as the Scharnorst effect. Such a vacuum can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. It is called a Casimir vacuum. Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 103 It might be the new "step further" into the interstellar space travel...

note, that things you are seeing now, were already produced in a lab for decades; Russian and American Military projects include experimental "out of time" projects, which do not necessarily follow the laws of physics... It is important they make it, the rest is part of conventional - theoretical physics, if the stuff leaks out...

Energy is all around us, even in vacuum, in lightnings, clouds, wind, seas, sunbeams, we only have to learn how to use it... Tesla saw electric potential in the empty space; vacuum, he called it "Ether". Mechanic ether was disproved in Mychelson-Morley experiment (which opens the door to the Einstein's Special relativity and Lorentz's (& Gallileo Galilei's) transformations...How ever it seems the vacuum can be manipulated. And we can avoid these borders. This concept of separation was proposed by Miguel Alcubierre with his Alcubierre (warp) drive...
I think that discovery or better said uses of the vacuum for Free energy will open doors into the Holy grail of the interstellar space travel... This will be by my opinion biggest achievement of human kind.

Please read posts of Agitated with explanation why wireless energy transmission is not going to happen.

He died in poverty.
your definition of poverty must be very different from general meaning. How poor was he if he afforded to live in a nice hotel room to the end of his life?
 
Please read posts of Agitated with explanation why wireless energy transmission is not going to happen.

your definition of poverty must be very different from general meaning. How poor was he if he afforded to live in a nice hotel room to the end of his life?

"On last Thursday night here in our city of New York, a man who was 87 years of age died in his humble hotel room. His name was Nikola Tesla. He died in poverty, but he was one of the most useful and successful men who ever lived."

source:
http://www.themarysue.com/nikola-tesla-eulogy/

"Tesla died penniless in 1943 in the New Yorker Hotel, where he had lived for 10 years after being evicted from another hotel for not paying his bill."

source:
http://www.ineffableisland.com/2012/05/10-celebrated-geniuses-who-died.html

PS

He did not only die penniless, he died in prison (hotel room). He was not allowed to speak with anybody outside his hotel room.
 
"Please read posts of Agitated with explanation why wireless energy transmission is not going to happen."

It is not only possible, one of American companies ("coincidence") will be selling them (cellphone adapters) in 2015/2016... - for shorter distances.
The general(original) wireless transportation from Tesla's time, or transformation of AC electricity is based on the technology called magnetic resonance coupling. Two copper coils are tuned to resonate at the same natural frequency...It is in fact an induction.
The production of electric power could be by my opinion also made via lasers; from space itself; where the strong laser beam should be by my opinion produced from to the Geostationary sattelite and pointed into the Earth's lower atmospheres, where should be standing on a high structure like "babylon towers", where the water would be heated up more quickly because of lower pressure (water is boiling more quickly in heights) and sent back as a steam through the wrapped tube to earth and finally sent through several Dinamos which will create an electricity.
New cold water will be pumped up with use of the Pascal's law with help of the energy from the oceans (another potential for independent power plants)...
Imagine nets around our planet. With time we could also build a 'shield' which will separate strong radiation which will partially block theInfrared light; which is absorbed by CO2, Methane and cool down the Earth... (in case of "global warming")... we will create new places to live there (check Herman Topočnik Noordungs's space wheel) with structures with artificial graviation, for living...And solar power will be everywhere around us...
 
"On last Thursday night here in our city of New York, a man who was 87 years of age died in his humble hotel room. His name was Nikola Tesla. He died in poverty, but he was one of the most useful and successful men who ever lived."

source:
http://www.themarysue.com/nikola-tesla-eulogy/

"Tesla died penniless in 1943 in the New Yorker Hotel, where he had lived for 10 years after being evicted from another hotel for not paying his bill."

source:
http://www.ineffableisland.com/2012/05/10-celebrated-geniuses-who-died.html

PS

He did not only die penniless, he died in prison (hotel room). He was not allowed to speak with anybody outside his hotel room.

Who paid for his hotel?
 
American taxpayers. Go ahead and re-write those articles on your way... that he died wealthy, somewhere in Hawaii,...
 
American taxpayers. Go ahead and re-write those articles on your way... that he died wealthy, somewhere in Hawaii,...
What are you saying, that he was either poor or rich? You missed 95% of normal people, around middle class income.

I've asked you a very valid question. Did he pay for his hotel room or not?
 
Nikola Tesla was Serbian and American.

He was born in Austrian Empire, his father was Serbian Orthodox priest.

Legacy of Tesla's work today is in America and Serbia.

Tesla's monument in New York: detail

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Nikola Tesla was big scientist and inventor world-class.

I don't understand why story about hotel and price of hotel is important for these thread?
 
"I don't understand why story about hotel and price of hotel is important for these thread?"

Because it is important that he was a prisoner in USA until his death...

"On last Thursday night here in our city of New York, a man who was 87 years of age died in his humble hotel room. His name was Nikola Tesla. He died in poverty, but he was one of the most useful and successful men who ever lived."

source:
http://www.themarysue.com/nikola-tesla-eulogy/

"Tesla died penniless in 1943 in the New Yorker Hotel, where he had lived for 10 years after being evicted from another hotel for not paying his bill."

source:
http://www.ineffableisland.com/2012/...-who-died.html

He was an American (prisoner)... It was not allowed for him to leave USA or several areas or even speak with anybody. He was constantly watched, controlled by FBI.
You can restrict the freedom with forfeiture of people's fortune or money... with repression (secret services, police, army,..). He did not even squeek.
 
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Same way you can say that plains, balloons and rockets are build on anti-gravity, they surely stay in the air or even in space.

Yetos, Tesla's theories and patents are available online and are free. Some people claim that you can build Tesla generator using parts from any electric store. It looks like it is a very simple machine. You are an engineer, so why don't you build it and tell us how it works or whether it works at all. Build it and free Greeks from paying for electricity.

If you can't find it free. Spend 40 bucks and buy it here. It would be your best investment ever. Just 40 dollars:

LeBrok; I know this is an old post but others may stumble across it like I did, and that link is still valid. First, in an earlier post you mention that we capture electromagnetic energy from the sun via windmills, which is untrue, we use wind power to generate electricity by spinning a magnet in a coil. Look up Dynamo if you're unsure how it works.
But regarding your link, if I'm not wrong, it was ruled in the 40's (in the UK) that acquiring electricity in the way described in that video, is actually theft.
The video shows a diagram consisting of four diodes and a few capacitors, plus an antenna. The diodes are arranged as a bridge rectifier which changes ac to dc, but where does the antenna get the ac?
What is actually happening, rather than the antenna picking up electricity from the magical aether, it's picking up the carrier wave of TV or Radio stations then it's converted to dc via the diodes. In reality you would be stealing the power from radio transmitters!
 
LeBrok; I know this is an old post but others may stumble across it like I did, and that link is still valid. First, in an earlier post you mention that we capture electromagnetic energy from the sun via windmills, which is untrue, we use wind power to generate electricity by spinning a magnet in a coil. Look up Dynamo if you're unsure how it works.
Tell us what propels the wind? The last time I checked it was energy from the sun, and guess in what form this energy reaches Earth?

But regarding your link, if I'm not wrong, it was ruled in the 40's (in the UK) that acquiring electricity in the way described in that video, is actually theft.
The video shows a diagram consisting of four diodes and a few capacitors, plus an antenna. The diodes are arranged as a bridge rectifier which changes ac to dc, but where does the antenna get the ac?
What is actually happening, rather than the antenna picking up electricity from the magical aether, it's picking up the carrier wave of TV or Radio stations then it's converted to dc via the diodes. In reality you would be stealing the power from radio transmitters!
The problem is that, more energy hast to be emitted than it can be captured, usually few magnitudes more. This is super inefficient way of sending energy.
 
As long as multinational corporations hold interest in oil industry, then we can't really expect developments towards free energy and even electric cars are overpriced and limited to the upper classes, so even in the XXI century most people will likely be dependent on Oil, where as some do it yourself scientists were able to create cars which use solar energy to make the cars use free energy, but it would against the interest of global corporations whose income dependent on oil industry.
We have far liberal globalist members here who genuinely believe that Obama spent millions of dollars on drones to protect the Middle Eastern citizens from Al Quaida gerillas - Those guerillas who were created by the local CIA to oppose the Russian communists during the 70's still being used by who? I don't think anyone who don't watch the fox or BBC new 24/7 would question the possibility that US intelligence cooperates together with terrorist organizations to give reason for US miliatry to have a politically allowed presence in the Middle East and it's just another quite huge coincidence that the Middle East has one of the most natural Oil on the globe.
 

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