New study on Algerian Y-DNA & mtDNA (+ other Maghreban populations)

[Maciamo]

Absolutenaly. If we have no one U106+ how can we have any U198+? I guess It's pretty much obvious that they by mistake typed U198 in wrong field since U198 even not under P312 it's from parallel branch. They should put it in one field upper with U106.

That's why I wrote in my original post that the authors of the study mistook and listed U198 with P312 instead of U106. We still don't know if the samples are U106/U198 or P312.

 

[GloomyGonzales]

That's why I wrote in my original post that the authors of the study mistook and listed U198 with P312 instead of U106. We still don't know if the samples are U106/U198 or P312.

Since we have a simplified version of R1b tree according to which U106 branch has no positive hits in Tunis and Algiria the only logical conclusion whould be that those samples were U106/U198 (no U106+ means no U198+).

Simplified R1b tree from the paper:

http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/512df7a5-ebcb-ff45-7d9e-c55e96d2fe07/

 

[nordicwarrior]

That's why I wrote in my original post that the authors of the study mistook and listed U198 with P312 instead of U106. We still don't know if the samples are U106/U198 or P312.

Maciamo, your dealing with someone who loves to nit pick others information, but when he himself is caught making an error does nothing but twist and turn. Unaccountable character trait.

 

[sparkey]

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How many times..... how many time should I repeat the word "Scandinavian"?

Do you gonna prove me that there's I1 haplo in Russia? I know it as well as I know that it's mostly pretty much old and came from Elba-Oder region and settled in Oka basin. Later they were pushed further to Volga by advancing R1a-Z280 folks migrating from South Baltic. The proble as I have already told you many times is that we have no I1 clades from Scandinavia.

Man, for you all I1 clades are the same while for me each of them has its own place of origination and TMRCA.

Which I1 clades in Russia do you have as ancient there? I can find a few that, if they are pre-Germanic, they aren't pre-Germanic by very long.

As for candidates of ones with presence (but not necessarily high frequency, these are minorities) that likely came from Scandinavia, try:
L22+ L813+
Z58+ Z73+
Both have greater representation than the maps show, but Russia is not as well sampled as Scandinavia.