Fire Haired
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- Ethnic group
- Celto-Germanic, Latino(~6%)
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b Df27(Spain)
- mtDNA haplogroup
- U5b2a2(Prussia)
I know there is not enough Y DNA to say excatley how it is spread out but there is still a really good idea. And i guess France is one of the worst since it is against the law to take a paternity test on the internet or telephone. (Ordering a DNA test in France is punshible by heavy fines and jail time). But i have notice a connection with the high amount of dark hair round 70-80% in central France and were Y DNA E1b1b and J1 are most popular in Eupedi's maps.
I guess it is not just central France map also northern Italy. There is no doubt in my opinion the distribution of E1b1b and J1 in the area of central France and north eastern Italy is connected and come form the same source. Since both are non European E1b1b originally probably from northeast Africa and J1 from the middle east it kind of make sense that could be why that area of France has so much more dark hair than eastern France. I know E1b1b V13 which was found in 7,000 year old Neolithic Y DNA sample in northern Spain spread in Europe with farming mainly from 9,000-6,000ybp. I dont know if the E1b1b is central France is mainly E1b1b V13 i guess other subclades of E1b1b M78 E1b1b V13's father could have been spread with it so those can maybe also be from the spread of farming in Europe. I don't know that much about J1 subclades but i would not be surprised even though from 31 Neolithic Y DNa samples not one had J1 that J1 was also partly spread in Europe with farming.
There is no doubt when u look at Aust DNa there was a huge amount of mid eastern inter marriage from around Syria in Italy, Greece, and southeast Europe during the Greco Roman age. And i am sure alot of the J1 and J2 some of the E1b1b in mainly Mediterranean Europe but also throughout Europe is from the Greco Roman age. Maybe some of the J1 and E1b1b is from Roman Gaul i don't know.
What surprises me is France overall has little amount of fair hair and eyes compared to eastern, central, and north Europe so most of Europe. Even though ancient Roman writers almost always described the Gauls as having blonde hair and light eyes that was like their stero typical Gaul even the Gauls in northern Italy. The Gaulic warriors did spike up their hair with something that would cause it to be a yellow like color which Romans mentioned. And almost all the Phyiscal descriptions i saw of Gauls was during war so that is when they would have the spiked dyed hair.
I guess it is not just central France map also northern Italy. There is no doubt in my opinion the distribution of E1b1b and J1 in the area of central France and north eastern Italy is connected and come form the same source. Since both are non European E1b1b originally probably from northeast Africa and J1 from the middle east it kind of make sense that could be why that area of France has so much more dark hair than eastern France. I know E1b1b V13 which was found in 7,000 year old Neolithic Y DNA sample in northern Spain spread in Europe with farming mainly from 9,000-6,000ybp. I dont know if the E1b1b is central France is mainly E1b1b V13 i guess other subclades of E1b1b M78 E1b1b V13's father could have been spread with it so those can maybe also be from the spread of farming in Europe. I don't know that much about J1 subclades but i would not be surprised even though from 31 Neolithic Y DNa samples not one had J1 that J1 was also partly spread in Europe with farming.
There is no doubt when u look at Aust DNa there was a huge amount of mid eastern inter marriage from around Syria in Italy, Greece, and southeast Europe during the Greco Roman age. And i am sure alot of the J1 and J2 some of the E1b1b in mainly Mediterranean Europe but also throughout Europe is from the Greco Roman age. Maybe some of the J1 and E1b1b is from Roman Gaul i don't know.
What surprises me is France overall has little amount of fair hair and eyes compared to eastern, central, and north Europe so most of Europe. Even though ancient Roman writers almost always described the Gauls as having blonde hair and light eyes that was like their stero typical Gaul even the Gauls in northern Italy. The Gaulic warriors did spike up their hair with something that would cause it to be a yellow like color which Romans mentioned. And almost all the Phyiscal descriptions i saw of Gauls was during war so that is when they would have the spiked dyed hair.