Tabaccus Maximus
Tabaccus Maximus
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- Ethnic group
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- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b - SRY 2627
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H1a
I'd like to make a proposal and see the reactions:
Are mound burials (tumuli) connected to peoples descending from Paleolithic P-M45 of Central Asia?
(The descendants of P-M45 are essentially Q-men (Siberians, Native Americans) and R-men (West Asians, ie. R1 and R2)
The tumulus is a dug grave covered with stones, timbers or bricks and is usually then covered with earth. It may consist of one or many burials with grave goods. Native Americans, Siberians and West Asian usually buried the body in a "flexed position" with knees towards the chest. Usually, the body was faced in a particular cardinal direction. Different configurations sometimes lead women and or children to be faced in the opposite direction as men.
Both Q* and R* probably arose about 20-25,000 years ago somewhere south or east of the Caspian Sea in Central Asia. Certainly both belonged to a single population, possibly for thousands of years before Q* ultimately dislocated into Northeast Asia and the Americas. R* may have lingered for many years in South Central Asia before spreading westwardly past the Caspian.
In any case, Q* and R* were at one time, somewhere, part of a singular cultural identity. Perhaps that ancient race was a composite of P-M45 men (father of Q* and R*) and Mitochondrally "X" women. As the two groups became geographically dislocated, the Q*+X population began taking the wives of other Mongoloids, whereas the West Asian group (R*+X) became increasingly Caucasoid, taking wives in Southwest Asia and the Near East.
Perhaps the low levels of mtdna haplogroup X throughout the sphere of P-M45 can be explained by a kind of selective neutrality, or reproductive homeostasis in the paleolithic, hunter-gatherer populations, where equal numbers of boys and girls at a certain birth weight maintained a population sustainable for those living conditions.
But as these men began taking foreign wives in the late Paleolithic (R* + H, U, T) and (Q* + A, B, C, D), reproductive homeostasis was disrupted whereby Q and R men began producing larger numbers of boys with women having different PH, genetics, etc.; hence the explosive nature of these haplogroups.
**edit: I deleted a lot of the previous blabber. The original post was just too long. If you do a search of "burial mounds" or "tumulus" you'll get a lot of results for a variety of cultures. I think everyone is smart enough to figure it out. I will caution though, in many cases such as the Shang, Silla, Kofun, Dilmun, Levant, etc. there were intrusive cultures coming from Siberia or West Asia. So before you dismiss the possibility on account of "well a lot of different cultures had burial mounds", I would suggest to look a little closer.
Does anyone else think there is a pattern?
"Takamasusuka Tomb" -October 2013, taken by Tabaccus Maximus
Are mound burials (tumuli) connected to peoples descending from Paleolithic P-M45 of Central Asia?
(The descendants of P-M45 are essentially Q-men (Siberians, Native Americans) and R-men (West Asians, ie. R1 and R2)
The tumulus is a dug grave covered with stones, timbers or bricks and is usually then covered with earth. It may consist of one or many burials with grave goods. Native Americans, Siberians and West Asian usually buried the body in a "flexed position" with knees towards the chest. Usually, the body was faced in a particular cardinal direction. Different configurations sometimes lead women and or children to be faced in the opposite direction as men.
Both Q* and R* probably arose about 20-25,000 years ago somewhere south or east of the Caspian Sea in Central Asia. Certainly both belonged to a single population, possibly for thousands of years before Q* ultimately dislocated into Northeast Asia and the Americas. R* may have lingered for many years in South Central Asia before spreading westwardly past the Caspian.
In any case, Q* and R* were at one time, somewhere, part of a singular cultural identity. Perhaps that ancient race was a composite of P-M45 men (father of Q* and R*) and Mitochondrally "X" women. As the two groups became geographically dislocated, the Q*+X population began taking the wives of other Mongoloids, whereas the West Asian group (R*+X) became increasingly Caucasoid, taking wives in Southwest Asia and the Near East.
Perhaps the low levels of mtdna haplogroup X throughout the sphere of P-M45 can be explained by a kind of selective neutrality, or reproductive homeostasis in the paleolithic, hunter-gatherer populations, where equal numbers of boys and girls at a certain birth weight maintained a population sustainable for those living conditions.
But as these men began taking foreign wives in the late Paleolithic (R* + H, U, T) and (Q* + A, B, C, D), reproductive homeostasis was disrupted whereby Q and R men began producing larger numbers of boys with women having different PH, genetics, etc.; hence the explosive nature of these haplogroups.
**edit: I deleted a lot of the previous blabber. The original post was just too long. If you do a search of "burial mounds" or "tumulus" you'll get a lot of results for a variety of cultures. I think everyone is smart enough to figure it out. I will caution though, in many cases such as the Shang, Silla, Kofun, Dilmun, Levant, etc. there were intrusive cultures coming from Siberia or West Asia. So before you dismiss the possibility on account of "well a lot of different cultures had burial mounds", I would suggest to look a little closer.
Does anyone else think there is a pattern?
"Takamasusuka Tomb" -October 2013, taken by Tabaccus Maximus
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