Automosal DNA test conflicting one another?

[Dagne]

Ah forget it. I'm impatient, never was a good fisherman anyway. Just ordered an upgraded - Y refine 12 to 67.

Good! I've got interested, too, who will you really turn out to be after all

 

[MOESAN]

general answer, not too focused (excuse me) on the present thread, but caused by a lot of approximations red here
I doubt Slavs occuped Saxon lands before last High Middle Ages (I can mistake)
THE MORE IMPORTANT HERE: read the threads about Y-R1a in this forum: a lot of interesting precisions had already been said - yet a look at Wikipedia would not be bad -
good readings

 

[Kardu]

Current R1a tree

 

[English Lad]

Thanks Kardu,

We'll know my Subclade come the end of December. ( Hopefully ).

 

[English Lad]

I finally got a chance to have a go at Gedmatch Admix analysis, etc. It's been having problems recently, but here are results from the EU and Jtest.

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[h=2]EUtest Oracle results:[/h]EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.


Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO	34.02
2	ATLANTIC	24.19
3	SOUTH_BALTIC	12.18
4	WEST_MED	10.34
5	EAST_EURO	10
6	WEST_ASIAN	6.77
7	MIDDLE_EASTERN	1.12
8	EAST_MED	0.79
9	SOUTH_ASIAN	0.38
10	SIBERIAN	0.21

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	English	6.23
2	DK	6.85
3	NL	7.21
4	NO	7.47
5	Orcadian	8.07
6	West_&_Central_German	8.16
7	South_&_Central_Swedish	8.26
8	IE	8.51
9	Cornish	9.05
10	Scottish	9.71
11	North_Swedish	12.64
12	FR	14.96
13	AT	15.72
14	HU	20.52
15	South_Finnish	21.63
16	PT	21.71
17	Serbian	22.49
18	ES	22.55
19	PL	24.74
20	North_Italian	25.23

 

[English Lad]

[h=2]Jtest Oracle results:[/h]Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.


Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO	33.83
2	ATLANTIC	23.77
3	SOUTH_BALTIC	12.15
4	WEST_MED	9.96
5	EAST_EURO	9.81
6	WEST_ASIAN	6.33
7	ASHKENAZI	3.08
8	MIDDLE_EASTERN	0.51
9	SOUTH_ASIAN	0.32
10	SIBERIAN	0.17
11	EAST_MED	0.07

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	English	5.95
2	DK	6.8
3	NL	7.06
4	NO	7.54
5	Orcadian	8.03
6	West_&_Central_German	8.04
7	South_&_Central_Swedish	8.32
8	IE	8.57
9	Cornish	8.93
10	Scottish	9.67
11	North_Swedish	12.43
12	FR	14.78
13	AT	15.64
14	HU	20.42
15	PT	21.41
16	South_Finnish	21.5
17	ES	22.21
18	Serbian	22.28
19	PL	24.68
20	North_Italian	24.95

 

[English Lad]

And K36 Eurogenes,

Population Amerindian - Arabian - Armenian - Basque 0.78% Central_African - Central_Euro 8.34% East_African - East_Asian - East_Balkan 4.85% East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro 5.45% East_Med - Eastern_Euro 2.53% Fennoscandian 13.01% French 7.42% Iberian 13.36% Indo-Chinese - Italian 5.41% Malayan - Near_Eastern - North_African - North_Atlantic 13.61% North_Caucasian 1.42% North_Sea 22.62% Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian - South_Asian - South_Central_Asian - South_Chinese - Volga-Ural - West_African - West_Caucasian 1.20% West_Med -

 

[Idun]

That Fennoscandian points to Vikings, it could have been close or over 20% on arrival.

 

[English Lad]

That Fennoscandian points to Vikings, it could have been close or over 20% on arrival.

I figured it'd be Vikings, perhaps that's the percentage my Y- DNA may come from ( R1a ). We'll see in time.

What would the North-Central Euro point too? I know Central Europe would be Germany, Poland, Czech Republic and Austria and other surrounding nations, but would the north be North Germany, North Poland or both?

 

[Idun]

Funny how "Finnish" MtDNA the English here have.

 

[Idun]

I figured it'd be Vikings, perhaps that's the percentage my Y- DNA may come from ( R1a ). We'll see in time.

What would the North-Central Euro point too? I know Central Europe would be Germany, Poland, Czech Republic and Austria and other surrounding nations, but would the north be North Germany, North Poland or both?

It all points to Vikings and Anglo-Saxons, looks normal for an English Lad.

 

[English Lad]

Funny how "Finnish" MtDNA the English here have.

Believe me, that W1 caught me off guard. I'd love to know the history behind it.

 

[English Lad]

FTDNA just confirmed my W1 to be W1g and I have 0 matches on their database.

[h=2]Haplogroup - W1g[/h]

Extra Mutations	315.1C 522.1A 522.2C C569a T7278C A8188G​
Missing Mutations	C16311T​

HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]A16129G [*=center]T16187C [*=center]C16189T [*=center]G16230A [*=center]T16278C [*=center]C16292T [*=center]C16320T

HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]C146T [*=center]C152T [*=center]A189G [*=center]T204C [*=center]G207A [*=center]A247G [*=center]315.1C [*=center]522.1A [*=center]522.2C [*=center]C569a

CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]G709A [*=center]A769G [*=center]A825t [*=center]A1018G [*=center]T1243C [*=center]A2758G [*=center]C2885T [*=center]A3505G [*=center]T3594C [*=center]G4104A [*=center]T4312C [*=center]G5046A [*=center]G5460A [*=center]G7146A [*=center]T7256C [*=center]T7278C [*=center]A7521G [*=center]C7864T [*=center]A8188G [*=center]G8251A [*=center]T8468C [*=center]T8655C [*=center]G8701A [*=center]G8994A [*=center]C9540T [*=center]G10398A [*=center]T10664C [*=center]A10688G [*=center]C10810T [*=center]C10873T [*=center]C10915T [*=center]C11674T [*=center]A11914G [*=center]A11947G [*=center]T12414C [*=center]G13105A [*=center]G13276A [*=center]T13506C [*=center]T13650C [*=center]G15884c

 

[mihaitzateo]

That Fennoscandian points to Vikings, it could have been close or over 20% on arrival.

Well,but original Anglo-Saxons,who came from somewhere in North Germany,to England,did not had any Fenno-scandian?
I think neither Fenno-Scandian,neither East-Central Euro,neither Eastern Euro could be linked for sure with Vikings.

 

[Idun]

Well,but original Anglo-Saxons,who came from somewhere in North Germany,to England,did not had any Fenno-scandian?
I think neither Fenno-Scandian,neither East-Central Euro,neither Eastern Euro could be linked for sure with Vikings.

The Fennoscandian is a positive sign, from Norway, Sweden or Finland mainly, dont know Denmark. Some of those can comment

 

[Idun]

FTDNA just confirmed my W1 to be W1g and I have 0 matches on their database.

Haplogroup - W1g

Extra Mutations	315.1C 522.1A 522.2C C569a T7278C A8188G​
Missing Mutations	C16311T​

HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]A16129G [*=center]T16187C [*=center]C16189T [*=center]G16230A [*=center]T16278C [*=center]C16292T [*=center]C16320T

HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]C146T [*=center]C152T [*=center]A189G [*=center]T204C [*=center]G207A [*=center]A247G [*=center]315.1C [*=center]522.1A [*=center]522.2C [*=center]C569a

CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS [*=center]G709A [*=center]A769G [*=center]A825t [*=center]A1018G [*=center]T1243C [*=center]A2758G [*=center]C2885T [*=center]A3505G [*=center]T3594C [*=center]G4104A [*=center]T4312C [*=center]G5046A [*=center]G5460A [*=center]G7146A [*=center]T7256C [*=center]T7278C [*=center]A7521G [*=center]C7864T [*=center]A8188G [*=center]G8251A [*=center]T8468C [*=center]T8655C [*=center]G8701A [*=center]G8994A [*=center]C9540T [*=center]G10398A [*=center]T10664C [*=center]A10688G [*=center]C10810T [*=center]C10873T [*=center]C10915T [*=center]C11674T [*=center]A11914G [*=center]A11947G [*=center]T12414C [*=center]G13105A [*=center]G13276A [*=center]T13506C [*=center]T13650C [*=center]G15884c

Please join the Finnish group also, your results are interesting.

Also join all the Skandinavian and Baltic groups, also Russia.

 

[English Lad]

Please join the Finnish group also, your results are interesting.

Also join all the Skandinavian and Baltic groups, also Russia.

When I receive my Y refine for my Y-DNA and shorthand, which I guess may be some time soon, I'll join as many groups as need. It's very interesting indeed. I must be a rare Englishman...

 

[Idun]

When I receive my Y refine for my Y-DNA and shorthand, which I guess may be some time soon, I'll join as many groups as need. It's very interesting indeed. I must be a rare Englishman...

You have it all, where are you from in England? The Danes where close to the Slavs and you have signs to Norway/Sweden/Finland.

 

[mihaitzateo]

The Fennoscandian is a positive sign, from Norway, Sweden or Finland mainly, dont know Denmark. Some of those can comment

I just looked on some results from K36.
Have seen Austrian with about 8.53% Feno-Scandian,someone from FYROM with over 5% Feno-Scandian,some Greek with over 5% Feno-Scandian etc.
In Eastern Europe,except Russia,Vikings were not present.
Only Eastern and Western Germanic tribes,were present here.So I think is quite clear Eastern Germanic tribes and Western Germanic tribes (like Anglo-Saxons) were also bearers of Feno-Scandian admixture,but not in high numbers.
So a very logic thing is to say Feno-Scandian from a normal English comes from both his Anglo-Saxon ancestry and from his Norman (which were Vikings mixed with French people) ancestry.No idea if vikings who raided in English left too many genes,but Normas clearly left,since they came and settled in England and mixed with the population there.

 

[English Lad]

You have it all, where are you from in England? The Danes where close to the Slavs and you have signs to Norway/Sweden/Finland.

My Father's line is all Kent as far back as early 1700's, that's as far as i got before spending money on DNA tests rather than on family trees. The issue is, my DYS388 wasn't 10 which is typically R1a L664 ( Germanic?), so I'm expected to see the Scandinavian Subclade Z284, but even then, there's a chance that it could instead be Slavic, or Jewish or whichever else...