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[King Bardhyl]

Confirme your allegations with facts and exclude me from the forum if they are real.
Otherwise ask for forgive to Albanians.

 

[King Bardhyl]

We should send our post to you to get your approval before posting?
In comunism this was called autocensure.

 

[Yetos]

ΜΟΣΧΟΠΟΛΙΣ ΚΟΡΥΤΣΑ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΕΛΙ

moscopolje korce Bulgarets

the story of what Greeks call ArbantoVlachs ΑρβαντοΒλαχοι

from 1769 Albanians try to Albanize the place
the place was so industrial and so educated that everybody like it,
oit was the biggest industrial are area of balkans at 1770
the Aromanian kingdom or the the Aromanian Mystra were alternative names,

from 1770 Albanians systematically attcked and pillaged it cause did not pay taxes to Albanian Hodzas as Quran was ordering but payed religious taxes to Ottomans
that continued even at WW1 and WW2

SALI BETKA the Albanian Hero,
his contribution was to burn down and islamize and albanize by force all the Greeks, Aromani, and Slavs (Slavic Makedonians)
Whow what a hero, burning houses in his country and Albanize by force Aromani and Slavs, who were unarmed,



WW2

Albanian party
cooperation with NAZI and SS

they burned 2 times Moschopolis Korce Bulgarets and Girokaster
cause they did not Albanized and muslimized

Nice Party.

your history and your expansion.

 

[ΠΑΝΑΞ]

Precast conclusions fragmentary documentation of documents not convince anyone. @bardylYou're a racist. You are the enemy of your homeland and your friends.  (!) Is that a true or not: The foto with the happy soldier occupy my territorial state of origin, Achelloos valley / Agrafa. The place you are pointing it is and it was always Greece and it will always be Hellas. (Not illyrian, check your patriot Aristo.) "...αυτή δ' 'εστίν η περί Δωδώνην και Άχελλώο [...]ώκουν γάρ οί Σελλοί ενταύθα και οι καλούμενοι τότε μέν Γραικοί,νυν δε Έλληνες / / Aristotle (Meteora 352b)   What are you trying to prove? Change THE PHOTO AND Ι DEMAND YOU FOR A SORRY

 

[ΠΑΝΑΞ]

You are a metasoviet post-imperialist... without -Besa (Alb.)Souvlaki Pitta without tzatziki... we dont bite these!

 

[Ike]

Hahaha Ike and his LaLa land. I lived in Yugoslavia, we had cases when 14 year olds were sent to Goli Otok. Everything was done under the sheet, so the world would not know. We were heavily in debts, and we just realized that after Titos death. It was a beautiful dream while it lasted. Life under socialism was not better, at least not the one that was created by slavic nations and imported by others. In Albania and Romania was one of the harshest, Bulgaria was not better either. In YU it was all milk and honey for the ruling class and their minions. The rest were equally poor.

We were not heavily in debts. We were 14 billion EUR in debt in the moment of fallout. IMF said that they won't give us more money, and US said that they will give money only to the republics if they depart.
Eventually, IMF did open safe doors. We were 96 billions 2008 and more than 115 billions in 2010. God knows where those numbers are now. It just shows that they were not serious in 1990, and that they only paused credits to emphasize economic crises which was use as a pretext for the violent fallout.

Life was extremely better.

 

[Ike]

There was an armed struggle by Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia.
ll against Serbia!

No there wasn't. Why do you even try to talk about the things you're not informed about. You lived in Albania, it's understandable that you don't know much about Croat-Serbian relationships. Why would you? It's no shame.

Still has not apologized for the crimes committed against Albanians.

Much worst thing that was done to Albanians was done by ethnic Albanian traitors, spies, fascists, drug and organ dealers themselves. First get rid of those, and then we can talk.

All are guilty, only Serbs are innocent.

No they aren't. Don't speak nonsense, I've never said that. They are just as guilty, and they may be even more guilty for the war crimes that happened, but only time will show, if some legitimate Court gets it's hands on it. Sadly, the chances for that are almost none because they would first have to prosecute whole NATO headquarters, cause they were the one who started the crisis against Milosevich, who didn't wanted to surrender his monetary control.

With some members of Greenpeace, called Arkan's Tigers, during a campaign for the protection of Tigers settlement.

Yeah, Arkan was a war criminal and now he is dead, or he'd be jailed. Although you have to note that neither he or any of his friends made it to the government, unlike in Kosovo where mass murderers are walking freely in government offices.

Confirme your allegations with facts and exclude me from the forum if they are real.
Otherwise ask for forgive to Albanians.

You're a hard core nationalist. I don't know if one can get closer to a poster kid nationalist. Everything you do on this forum is bashing your neighbours. It was people like you, pushed by foreign interests, who ignited the fire on Kosovo and led the region into a dead-end story, making people lives miserable and future bleak at best.

 

[King Bardhyl]

No there wasn't. Why do you even try to talk about the things you're not informed about. You lived in Albania, it's understandable that you don't know much about Croat-Serbian relationships. Why would you? It's no shame.


Much worst thing that was done to Albanians was done by ethnic Albanian traitors, spies, fascists, drug and organ dealers themselves. First get rid of those, and then we can talk.



No they aren't. Don't speak nonsense, I've never said that. They are just as guilty, and they may be even more guilty for the war crimes that happened, but only time will show, if some legitimate Court gets it's hands on it. Sadly, the chances for that are almost none because they would first have to prosecute whole NATO headquarters, cause they were the one who started the crisis against Milosevich, who didn't wanted to surrender his monetary control.



Yeah, Arkan was a war criminal and now he is dead, or he'd be jailed. Although you have to note that neither he or any of his friends made it to the government, unlike in Kosovo where mass murderers are walking freely in government offices.



You're a hard core nationalist. I don't know if one can get closer to a poster kid nationalist. Everything you do on this forum is bashing your neighbours. It was people like you, pushed by foreign interests, who ignited the fire on Kosovo and led the region into a dead-end story, making people lives miserable and future bleak at best.

Can you answer to this:
So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?

About other we can discuss all the day and night here:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27710-Illyrian-Albanian-Continuity?p=439209#post439209

 

[Garrick]

Wow, this is a punch below the belt, dude!

No, LeBrok, you know that I love discuss with you, an it is always constructional discussion.
And you know, anyone who have sympathy for Tito and Partisan movement can not be a nationalist.
And Tito fought against all forms of nationalism, in Yugoslavia main principle was: Brotherhood and Unity.
And anthem of Yugoslavia was Pan-Slavic: "Hey Sloveni".
And this theme about socialist states: Poland, Slovakia, Yugoslavia etc. is very good because from this perspective we can look better that part of our past.

But new time bring new problems, we can not close our eyes to these problems, they are real.
We, members of the European Balkan nations, have a special feeling for these kinds of problems because our people lived over 500 years conquered by the Ottoman empire.

Maybe, you think you are far from this kind of problem, but do not tell twice.
Look at this map:

New Islamic Caliphate according to ISIS will be on the borders of Poland.

You can see the book of Patrick Cockburn:

The Jihadis Return

http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/jihadis-return/

Today, as renowned Middle East commentator Patrick Cockburn sets out in this explosive new book, that’s all changed. Exploiting the missteps of the West’s wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, as well as its misjudgments in relation to Syria and the uprisings of the Arab Spring, jihadist organizations, of which ISIS is the most important, are swiftly expanding. They now control a geographical territory greater in size than Britain or Michigan, stretching from the Sunni heartlands in the north and west of Iraq through a broad swath of north-east Syria. On the back of their capture of Mosul and much of northern Iraq in June 2014, the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, has been declared the head of a new caliphate that demands the allegiance of all Muslims.


The secular, democratic politics that were supposedly at the fore of the Arab Spring have been buried by the return of the jihadis. As the Islamic State announced by ISIS confronts its enemies, the West will once again become a target. Cockburn cites an observer in southern Turkey interviewing Syrian jihadi rebels early in 2014 and finding that “without exception they all expressed enthusiasm for the 9/11 attacks and hoped the same thing would happen in Europe as well as the US.”


...
Balkan Christian nation lived over 500 years under Sharia Islamic Low. And they are afraid.

...
Nobody here has anything against Albania.

But Greater Albania or Natural Albania, nevertheless, occupies big parts of FRY Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Greece.

And things are more complex.

Because in that creation can be applied Sharia law for members another nations, Atheists, Christian people etc.

And it is only one phase toward new Ottoman Empire on the Balkans and beyond, or Oropba.
...
I believe in goodness and human nature is basically good. I'm optimist for mankind, people have the power and ability to overcome problems and difficulties. I have a great opinion of the peoples of Africa, Middle East and Asia, and generally about people. Mankind is general has a postive energy. I am convincied that when for thirty-forty years ago we discuss, that we will talk about completely different things, it is possible about flights to other planets, and certainly you would like visit the Moon. Mars and so on, I too.

 

[King Bardhyl]

@ Ike& Garrick
I don’t want to lose much time with you guys. I want to stay at two interesting moments.
First this theory of 100.000 albanian who emigrate to Serbia is very curios and I insiste that you elaborate better this theory, because never heard before.
Second:
Your words
“But the biggest problem is to restore the Middle Ages, in Yugoslavia was big progress, but today, examples:

ISIS fighter from Kosovo praises jihad in Syria
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...er_from_ko.php

Albanians Fighting for ISIS earn $65/day, come from Middle Class Families
http://europenews.dk/en/node/83259

ISIS Albanian Mujahideen celebrating the liberation of Mosul in Iraq
http://tune.pk/video/3933167/isis-al...-mosul-in-irak”

Where did you owe this article, LeBrok?
You should note that there are people who read what we write and you can not mock the intelligence of readers
The human being first observes and then draws conclusions . With a simple observation, you are trying to confuse the discussion about communism, Albanians and Serbs and Islamic fundamentalism.
I am willing to discuss all three, but let's share from each other. Let`s don’t make confusion.



Conclusion


Regarding the discussion on the Albanians and the Serbs let pass here:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27710-Illyrian-Albanian-Continuity?p=439209#post439209
I have invited you different time , this time i challenge you both and others. Enough with bored.
Let's put on the table and see who has the greatest.

Yugoslavia was destroyed by you Serbs.
Milosevic sent you four times with tanks and you come back four times with tractors.

About communism i have expressed my opinion about the issue.
My words:
“Practical communism, implemented was a creature of Slavic Orthodoxy”.
And i am ready to discuss with you. But before that i want to be clear your intellectual level is not the same as the Yetos.
So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?

P.S.
You should not refer Yetos. There are three weeks and he still today could not tell me one name of a greek hero of Greek revolution. According to my information he have an problem of health. He can not stay more than 5 min sit in a chair.

I am still here.

Regarding the discussion on the Albanians and the Serbs let pass here:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27710-Illyrian-Albanian-Continuity?p=439209#post439209
I have invited you different time , this time i challenge you both and others. Enough with bored.
Let's put on the table and see who has the greatest.
So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?

 

[Ike]

So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?

Are you regarding to The Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital?

 

[Yetos]

ΜΟΣΧΟΠΟΛΙΣ ΚΟΡΥΤΣΑ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΕΛΙ

moscopolje korce bulgarets

the story of what greeks call arbantovlachs ΑρβαντοΒλαχοι

from 1769 albanians try to albanize the place
the place was so industrial and so educated that everybody like it,
oit was the biggest industrial are area of balkans at 1770
the aromanian kingdom or the the aromanian mystra were alternative names,

from 1770 albanians systematically attcked and pillaged it cause did not pay taxes to albanian hodzas as quran was ordering but payed religious taxes to ottomans
that continued even at ww1 and ww2

sali betka the albanian hero,
his contribution was to burn down and islamize and albanize by force all the greeks, aromani, and slavs (slavic makedonians)
whow what a hero, burning houses in his country and albanize by force aromani and slavs, who were unarmed,



ww2

albanian party
cooperation with nazi and ss

they burned 2 times moschopolis korce bulgarets and girokaster
cause they did not albanized and muslimized

nice party.

Your history and your expansion.

your hero bardylic

 

[Garrick]

your hero bardylic

Nothing has changed.

Modern Albanian jihadists (in Syria)


A lot of non-Muslim in Syria and Iraq were hurted.

Small communities that have lived for centuries.

...
And even Pope is not secured:

Albanian jihadists May Assassinate Pope Francis

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/26105/53/

...
Again, I'm not nationalist, but how to ignore plans about Greater Albania, new Ottoman empire and jihadists when they are on our doorstep.

 

[Ike]

That is becoming a serious regional problem. Communists were not quite fond of religion, and this could never happen in their times. This is the product of democracy, and I don't believe Western countries were stupid to not know what would become if the system that works for them was forced upon others. I think they deliberately insisted on it, not because they were concerned bout democracy but because they wanted this outcome. They simply need destabilized regions, and that's the sole reason they fought so intensively against communism here.

 

[LeBrok]

That is becoming a serious regional problem. Communists were not quite fond of religion, and this could never happen in their times. This is the product of democracy, and I don't believe Western countries were stupid to not know what would become if the system that works for them was forced upon others. I think they deliberately insisted on it, not because they were concerned bout democracy but because they wanted this outcome. They simply need destabilized regions, and that's the sole reason they fought so intensively against communism here.

Conspiracy again. Nothing happens without secret services, ha? I had no idea that everything people plan and do is successful in this world.
This mess couldn't have come from simple incompetence of people, unexpected events, inability of people to analyze complicated system as global politic is, conflict of interests of global power centers, or simple religious propaganda coupled with young boys eagerness to fight a war. No, no, no, it is the CIA and rotten West again, lol.

 

[Ike]

This mess couldn't have come from simple incompetence of people, unexpected events, inability of people to analyze complicated system as global politic is, conflict of interests of global power centers, or simple religious propaganda coupled with young boys eagerness to fight a war. No, no, no, it is the CIA and rotten West again, lol.

I agree that our military leaders showed incompetence and were not ready to protect Constitution in the time when it was most needed.
I agree that those were very unexpected events for majority of the citizens of Yugoslavia, unlike for the organizers of whole this mess.
I absolutely agree that our secret services showed inability to analyze the depths of horror CIA was ready to sow here, and didn't take the fallout of SSSR seriously.
I agree that a lot of money was input here for nationalistic propaganda that would destabilize the state and open the door for military collision which was kept alive with guns and mercenaries infusions.

LeBrok, you're 100% right. Giving you a plus.

 

[Garrick]

Conspiracy again. Nothing happens without secret services, ha? I had no idea that everything people plan and do is successful in this world.

You know that I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.
James Bond etc. only in movies.

European values, human rights and freedom are great civilization achievements.
The pride of people of Europe and European civilization.

Unfortunately some parts of Europe were long under the rulers of different views and apprehensions.

While the rest of Europe was developed, European Balkan peoples, especially Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs were under Ottoman Islamic state and Sharia law.
If you want understand this, you have to understand what it means to be non-Muslim under Sharia legal system.

It is not just a second-class citizen, or someone who pays tax for life (jizya), it is someone who has no rights or hope.
Sharia law for non-Muslim has no human rights and freedom, only taxes, obedience and hope for mercy, but rulers can be very arrogant and cruel, and there is no grace, and very tragic and sad fate for non-Muslim.

Balkan Christian nation have a proverb: Islamic judge sues, Islamic judge makes your judgement.
There’s no human rights LeBrok, you’re left to the his mercy and wantonness.
Do not you wish anyone to be in that situation.

Ottoman Empire was an Islamic state, good for Muslims.

Interestingly, what happened to the Albanians, while the Christian peoples of the Balkans, Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs and others, have suffered under Sharia law.
Albanians after a period of polytheism received Christianity and were mostly Roman Catholics.
But when the Ottoman Empire spread and included areas inhabited by ethnic Albanians, it took place something not many expected, what in the book History of Islam writes Thomas Arnold.

For short time, in seventeenth century, for one generation Albanians change religion and converted to Islam in large numbers.
Grandparents or parent could remain Christians, but young Albanians have embraced Islamic religion.
Probably the islamization of Albanians is among the fastest in history, and it was voluntary, and Albanians are probably only ex Roman Catholic nation that has massively embraced Islam.

Converting to Islam Albanians began to enjoy all privileges as Muslims, among other things, to rule over the powerless and the oppressed Christian Balkan peoples.
Albanians have become the spearhead of Jihad and the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans.

If you want to know the fate of the Balkan European nations, it is the best to read about the life of Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs under Islamic Ottoman rule.
When you read a little more you can understand contemporary events and why the European Balkan nations are afraid from Greater Albania (conquer territories four states), a new Ottoman Empire, Oropba, Islamic state and Sharia law.
Unfortenatly Ike was right, creating ISIS and drawing map of the new Caliphate which even includes the territory of Slovakia and Austria (in another occasion I will explain you if you wish to know) introduce fear in the Balkan European nations.

Do not forget, once in eastern Albania and in European part of Turkey lived Bulgarians, now they’re gone, once the entire Aegean coast of Turkey and northern Epirus (today’s south Albania) was inhabited by Greeks, now they’re gone, it was less than 100 years.

Until recently Prizren, Pristina and many other cities are inhabited by Serbs, for example in Pristine 1961 was 35.000 Serbs, after 1999 Serbs in Pristina is 0.
Do you believe that no one has asked for human rights of Greeks when they were expelled by the Turks in 1922, or Serbs who fled big parts of Serbian province Kosovo in 1999.

But I’m an optimist, the wheel of history cannot be turned back, although some men tend to return the Sharia law in Balkans.
So Greater Albania will remain failed idea, as well as the return of Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and new Caliphate, the world is moving forward, and civilizations twenty-first century will find the strength to cope with it, and Europe and the European Balkans people will prosper.
Without nationalism and fundamentalism that are backward, but with modern and advanced insights.

I firmly believe in European unity and power of Europe, Yugoslav slogan “brotherhood and unity” can be good and for Europe, although that does not understand me wrong I have nothing against America, China and other non-Europeans countries, and I believe in human goodness, and think good about the people of Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.
And I tell you for thirty years we will talk about completely different things like flying to the Moon and Mars and the like.

 

[albanopolis]

You know that I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.
James Bond etc. only in movies.

European values, human rights and freedom are great civilization achievements.
The pride of people of Europe and European civilization.

Unfortunately some parts of Europe were long under the rulers of different views and apprehensions.

While the rest of Europe was developed, European Balkan peoples, especially Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs were under Ottoman Islamic state and Sharia law.
If you want understand this, you have to understand what it means to be non-Muslim under Sharia legal system.

It is not just a second-class citizen, or someone who pays tax for life (jizya), it is someone who has no rights or hope.
Sharia law for non-Muslim has no human rights and freedom, only taxes, obedience and hope for mercy, but rulers can be very arrogant and cruel, and there is no grace, and very tragic and sad fate for non-Muslim.

Balkan Christian nation have a proverb: Islamic judge sues, Islamic judge makes your judgement.
There’s no human rights LeBrok, you’re left to the his mercy and wantonness.
Do not you wish anyone to be in that situation.

Ottoman Empire was an Islamic state, good for Muslims.

Interestingly, what happened to the Albanians, while the Christian peoples of the Balkans, Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs and others, have suffered under Sharia law.
Albanians after a period of polytheism received Christianity and were mostly Roman Catholics.
But when the Ottoman Empire spread and included areas inhabited by ethnic Albanians, it took place something not many expected, what in the book History of Islam writes Thomas Arnold.

For short time, in seventeenth century, for one generation Albanians change religion and converted to Islam in large numbers.
Grandparents or parent could remain Christians, but young Albanians have embraced Islamic religion.
Probably the islamization of Albanians is among the fastest in history, and it was voluntary, and Albanians are probably only ex Roman Catholic nation that has massively embraced Islam.

Converting to Islam Albanians began to enjoy all privileges as Muslims, among other things, to rule over the powerless and the oppressed Christian Balkan peoples.
Albanians have become the spearhead of Jihad and the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans.

If you want to know the fate of the Balkan European nations, it is the best to read about the life of Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs under Islamic Ottoman rule.
When you read a little more you can understand contemporary events and why the European Balkan nations are afraid from Greater Albania (conquer territories four states), a new Ottoman Empire, Oropba, Islamic state and Sharia law.
Unfortenatly Ike was right, creating ISIS and drawing map of the new Caliphate which even includes the territory of Slovakia and Austria (in another occasion I will explain you if you wish to know) introduce fear in the Balkan European nations.

Do not forget, once in eastern Albania and in European part of Turkey lived Bulgarians, now they’re gone, once the entire Aegean coast of Turkey and northern Epirus (today’s south Albania) was inhabited by Greeks, now they’re gone, it was less than 100 years.

Until recently Prizren, Pristina and many other cities are inhabited by Serbs, for example in Pristine 1961 was 35.000 Serbs, after 1999 Serbs in Pristina is 0.
Do you believe that no one has asked for human rights of Greeks when they were expelled by the Turks in 1922, or Serbs who fled big parts of Serbian province Kosovo in 1999.

But I’m an optimist, the wheel of history cannot be turned back, although some men tend to return the Sharia law in Balkans.
So Greater Albania will remain failed idea, as well as the return of Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and new Caliphate, the world is moving forward, and civilizations twenty-first century will find the strength to cope with it, and Europe and the European Balkans people will prosper.
Without nationalism and fundamentalism that are backward, but with modern and advanced insights.

I firmly believe in European unity and power of Europe, Yugoslav slogan “brotherhood and unity” can be good and for Europe, although that does not understand me wrong I have nothing against America, China and other non-Europeans countries, and I believe in human goodness, and think good about the people of Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.
And I tell you for thirty years we will talk about completely different things like flying to the Moon and Mars and the like.

Albania's muslin population according to,the last census is: Sunny Muslims about 57%, Bektashi muslin about 3% and the rest are Christians or Atheist.
My educated guess is that there are a lot of agnostics in Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia's Albanian population.
So among 60% of the population who declared themselves Muslim they did not say they are practicing Muslims,
they said they come from a Muslim family. Same is true for christian Albanians.
It was not true that Albania was the only christian country that become Muslim.
There were around 30% of Greek population who also become Muslim.
Athens, at the down of Greek revolution was Muslim majority. The only Christians in Athens were Arvanites.
They passed a law that forced all Muslim Greeks to convert to Christianity.
When I say Muslim Greeks I don't mean Turk colons in Greece, I mean ethnic Greeks that Greek was the only language they knew.
So, its unfair to say that Albanians were the only one becoming Muslim.

 

[albanopolis]

You know that I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.
James Bond etc. only in movies.

European values, human rights and freedom are great civilization achievements.
The pride of people of Europe and European civilization.

Unfortunately some parts of Europe were long under the rulers of different views and apprehensions.

While the rest of Europe was developed, European Balkan peoples, especially Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs were under Ottoman Islamic state and Sharia law.
If you want understand this, you have to understand what it means to be non-Muslim under Sharia legal system.

It is not just a second-class citizen, or someone who pays tax for life (jizya), it is someone who has no rights or hope.
Sharia law for non-Muslim has no human rights and freedom, only taxes, obedience and hope for mercy, but rulers can be very arrogant and cruel, and there is no grace, and very tragic and sad fate for non-Muslim.

Balkan Christian nation have a proverb: Islamic judge sues, Islamic judge makes your judgement.
There’s no human rights LeBrok, you’re left to the his mercy and wantonness.
Do not you wish anyone to be in that situation.

Ottoman Empire was an Islamic state, good for Muslims.

Interestingly, what happened to the Albanians, while the Christian peoples of the Balkans, Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs and others, have suffered under Sharia law.
Albanians after a period of polytheism received Christianity and were mostly Roman Catholics.
But when the Ottoman Empire spread and included areas inhabited by ethnic Albanians, it took place something not many expected, what in the book History of Islam writes Thomas Arnold.

For short time, in seventeenth century, for one generation Albanians change religion and converted to Islam in large numbers.
Grandparents or parent could remain Christians, but young Albanians have embraced Islamic religion.
Probably the islamization of Albanians is among the fastest in history, and it was voluntary, and Albanians are probably only ex Roman Catholic nation that has massively embraced Islam.

Converting to Islam Albanians began to enjoy all privileges as Muslims, among other things, to rule over the powerless and the oppressed Christian Balkan peoples.
Albanians have become the spearhead of Jihad and the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans.

If you want to know the fate of the Balkan European nations, it is the best to read about the life of Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs under Islamic Ottoman rule.
When you read a little more you can understand contemporary events and why the European Balkan nations are afraid from Greater Albania (conquer territories four states), a new Ottoman Empire, Oropba, Islamic state and Sharia law.
Unfortenatly Ike was right, creating ISIS and drawing map of the new Caliphate which even includes the territory of Slovakia and Austria (in another occasion I will explain you if you wish to know) introduce fear in the Balkan European nations.

Do not forget, once in eastern Albania and in European part of Turkey lived Bulgarians, now they’re gone, once the entire Aegean coast of Turkey and northern Epirus (today’s south Albania) was inhabited by Greeks, now they’re gone, it was less than 100 years.

Until recently Prizren, Pristina and many other cities are inhabited by Serbs, for example in Pristine 1961 was 35.000 Serbs, after 1999 Serbs in Pristina is 0.
Do you believe that no one has asked for human rights of Greeks when they were expelled by the Turks in 1922, or Serbs who fled big parts of Serbian province Kosovo in 1999.

But I’m an optimist, the wheel of history cannot be turned back, although some men tend to return the Sharia law in Balkans.
So Greater Albania will remain failed idea, as well as the return of Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and new Caliphate, the world is moving forward, and civilizations twenty-first century will find the strength to cope with it, and Europe and the European Balkans people will prosper.
Without nationalism and fundamentalism that are backward, but with modern and advanced insights.

I firmly believe in European unity and power of Europe, Yugoslav slogan “brotherhood and unity” can be good and for Europe, although that does not understand me wrong I have nothing against America, China and other non-Europeans countries, and I believe in human goodness, and think good about the people of Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.
And I tell you for thirty years we will talk about completely different things like flying to the Moon and Mars and the like.

You either lack a total understanding of Albanian history or you are trying to distort it.
There has never been Greeks in Epiros;
Epiros (I am using Greek pronunciation of the word) Was an Illyrian province, as it was Dardania( Kosovo) or Dalmacia
If you are in a mission to distort Albanian history go ahead and do it, but you are doing a disservice to forum readers who are not interested in purposely deformed information.
If it makes you feel good do your thing, but its more honorable to state in a correct ways historical facts.

 

[Yetos]

You either lack a total understanding of Albanian history or you are trying to distort it.
There has never been Greeks in Epiros;
Epiros (I am using Greek pronunciation of the word) Was an Illyrian province, as it was Dardania( Kosovo) or Dalmacia
If you are in a mission to distort Albanian history go ahead and do it, but you are doing a disservice to forum readers who are not interested in purposely deformed information.
If it makes you feel good do your thing, but its more honorable to state in a correct ways historical facts.

Epirus was is and will continue to be Archegonos Hellas.