Politics Get Out of Europe Before You Wreck It: A French Message to Britain

You forgot to mention that Greece has many Islands close to so called Asia. With the same measuring stick then you can consider the whole of Europe as part of Asia as its attached to it. Borders as we know them are relatively a recent thing. Azerbaijan have an ad on CNN claiming they are the European charm of the orient! We like to think of a world either black or white (for statistical purposes) but in reality there is lots of different shades of gray in between.

Thank you!

I was going to mention that about the Greek islands so close to Asia, but I forgot to.

I agree with you, Europe is really just part of Eurasia. Where does Europe end? Caucasoids originated in the Caucasus amontains in Central Asia. If we originated there, then why is it considered to be Asia? Where is the geographic boundary between Europe and Asia?

I think the EU should consider "all nations with a European culture.", as the EU says in the Copenhagen Agreement. Canada has a European majority, speaks two European languages (English and French), shares a head of state with other European countries (the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.), shares European values, and has a European system of government (the Westminster System). It is also a member of the Commonwealth, as are three other EU nations. (the UK, your nation Malta, and Cyprus.)

It seems that the gray in between makes up much of actual Europe. If we consider nations which as far wast, if no even farther east than Turkey to be in Europe (40% of Russia, Ukraine, etc.), then why isn't Turkey in Europe? What about Georgia? Or Armenia? Are they in Europe? I would say yes, yes they are. But, I would also say that nations such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand; are European countries. Europe is more than what it is on a map. Europe is a collection of nations with different national cultures, but a shared European culture. These nations speak European languages. And I believe that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are European nations as they have a European culture, speak European languages, are mostly of European descent, and all share a head of state with European countries.
 
Never in a million years would Canadians ever have any desire to be part of the EU, I see joining with America as a possibility but Europe never. Canada is a wealthy country that is being run very well, why would we ever want to join with a bunch of have not European countries? We would rather join with Norway. I like the idea of free trade with Europe but nothing beyond that. I think Britain should solve its immigrant problem and then form an Anglo union with Canada/New Zealand/Australia, actually that union is a lot better without Britain lol. I feel sorry for Germany having to prop up the rest of Europe, if I was a German I would vote to leave.
 
^ Do you also pay the queen like the Brits do Canadian bros?

Finch says that the climbing costs reflect the fact that the Queen’s reps are taking on more active roles, with heightened responsibility and more travel time. While that might be costing Canadians a few extra pennies, he stresses that the monarchy “is not a very expensive operation.” But Tom Freda, national director of Citizens for a Canadian Republic, is not so sure. “Ah, the Monarchists. They love to break it down to per capita and make it sound all nice and rosy,” he says. “But $40 million or $50 million [a year] sure sounds like a lot to me.” The Monarchist League supports that figure, estimating that about $50,147,000 was spent during the 2006-07 year.
http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/queen-costs-us-more-than-the-brits-pay/

Wouldn't be wiser to pay this 50 million to Prime Minister and Ministers, so we can get better quality government, made of smartest of us all?

I'm not sure how much queen gets directly but most of the money are spent entertaining royals coming to Canada for a visit every year. Just because they were born in the right family. Sick.
 
I'm sure you've been in this country long enough to know why it's difficult to get rid of the monarchy.
Yes, difficult but noble and necessary. It is like we need a closure.

Many people, including myself, dislike the idea of making Canada a republic unless we can be sure that the president would always remain a figurehead with no political power.
What about a new form of Republic without El Presidente? I love experimenting.


But once a complex constitutional process starts, there's no telling where it will end up. We might get a system where we have a president constantly fighting with Parliament, and even less useful work would get done than at present. Also, there is a small but vocal minority of people who actually like the monarchy and they're apt to become one issue voters if Parliament tries to get rid of that anachronism. And politicians fear one issue voters.

I agree we need to fix Canada's constitution - we need to get rid of the monarchy and either abolish the Senate or replace it by one elected proportionally, to act as a check on the House of Commons.
You get my vote on this platform.

Maybe you could run for Parliament and become the inspirational leader we need to unite Canadians so we could fix things.
With my heavy polish accent I'll be playing a la Chretien all the time, lol.

I wouldn't vote for you though - your economic views are too Albertan (or maybe just too warped from growing up under communism).
oh, com'n, I'm Marxist at heart, but my logic won't let me go there all the way. Some things work best in theory and romantic soles, but not in a real world.
 
Wouldn't be wiser to pay this 50 million to Prime Minister and Ministers, so we can get better quality government, made of smartest of us all?I'm not sure how much queen gets directly but most of the money are spent entertaining royals coming to Canada for a visit every year. Just because they were born in the right family. Sick.
No, it wouldn't be wiser to give the Prime Minister and Ministers $50 Million. Governments spend tons of money on stupid stuff. Especially the US. I am sure the Canadian government does the same. To the Canadian government, it is a pittance. The US spends $1.4 Billion on the Obamas every year, the UK spends $58 Million on the royals a year. Look at the stupid things the US government wastes money on:

#1 The National Science Foundation has given $384,949 to Yale University to do a study on “Sexual Conflict, Social Behavior and the Evolution of Waterfowl Genitalia”.  Try not to laugh, but much of this research involves examining and measuring the reproductive organs of male ducks.

#2 The IRS spent $60,000 on a film parody of “Star Trek” and a film parody of “Gilligan’s Island”.  Internal Revenue Service employees were the actors in the two parodies, so as you can imagine the acting was really bad.

#3 The National Institutes of Health has given $1.5 million to Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts to study why “three-quarters” of lesbians in the United States are overweight and why most gay males are not.

#4 The National Institutes of Health has also spent $2.7 million to study why lesbians have more “vulnerability to hazardous drinking”.

#5 The U.S. government is giving sixteen F-16s and 200 Abrams tanks to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt even though the new president of Egypt, Mohammed Morsi (a member of the Muslim Brotherhood), constantly makes statements such as the following…

“Dear brothers, we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred towards those Zionists and Jews, and all those who support them”
#6 During 2012, the salaries of Barack Obama’s three climate change advisers combined came to a grand total of more than $370,000.

#7 Overall, 139 different White House staffers were making at least $100,000during 2012, and there were 20 staffers that made the maximum of $172,200.

#8 Amazingly, U.S. taxpayers spend more than 1.4 billion dollars a year on the Obamas.  Meanwhile, British taxpayers only spend about  58 million dollars on the entire royal family.

#9 During 2012, $25,000 of federal money was spent on a promotional tour for the Alabama Watermelon Queen.

#10 The U.S. government spent $505,000 “to promote specialty hair and beauty products for cats and dogs” in 2012.

#11 NASA spends close to a million dollars a year developing a menu of food for a manned mission to Mars even though it is being projected that a manned mission to Mars is still decades away.

#12 During 2012, the federal government spent 15 million dollars to help Russian weapons institutes recruit nuclear scientists.

#13 Over the past 15 years, a total of approximately $5.25 million has been spent on hair care services for the U.S. Senate.

#14 The U.S. government spent 27 million dollars to teach Moroccans how to design and make pottery in 2012.

#15 At a time when we have an epidemic of unemployment in the United States, the U.S. Department of Education is spending $1.3 million to “reduce linguistic, academic, and employment barriers for skilled and low-skilled immigrants and refugees, and to integrate them into the U.S. workforce and professions.”

#16 The federal government still sends about 20 million dollars a year to the surviving family members of veterans of World War I, even though World War I ended 94 years ago.

#17 The U.S. government is spending approximately 3.6 million dollars a year to support the lavish lifestyles of former presidents such as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

#18 During fiscal 2012, the National Science Foundation gave researchers at Purdue University $350,000.  They used part of that money to help fund a study that discovered that if golfers imagine that a hole is bigger it will help them with their putting.

#19 The U.S. government is giving hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority every year.

#20 Federal agencies have purchased a total of approximately 2 billion rounds of ammunition over the past 10 months.  It is claimed that all of this ammunition is needed for “training purposes”.

#21 During 2012, the National Science Foundation spent $516,000 on the creation of a video game called “Prom Week” which apparently simulates “all the social interactions of the event.”

#22 If you can believe it, $10,000 of U.S. taxpayer money was actually used to purchase talking urinal cakes up in Michigan.

#23 When Joe Biden and his staff took a trip to London back in February, the hotel bill cost U.S. taxpayers $459,388.65.

#24 Joe Biden and his staff also stopped in Paris for one night back in February.  The hotel bill for that one night came to $585,000.50.

#25 If you can believe it, close to 15,000 retired federal employees are currently collecting federal pensions for life worth at least $100,000 annually.  That list includes such names as Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Trent Lott, Dick Gephardt and Dick Cheney.

#26 The U.S. Department of Agriculture has spent $300,000 to encourage Americans to eat caviar.

#27 The National Institutes of Health recently gave $666,905 to a group of researchers that is conducting a study on the benefits of watching reruns on television.

#28 The National Science Foundation has given 1.2 million dollars to a team of “scientists” that is spending part of that money on a study that is seeking to determine whether elderly Americans would benefit from playing World of Warcraft or not.

#29 The National Institutes of Health recently gave $548,731 to a team of researchers that concluded that those that drink heavily in their thirties also tend to feel more immature.

#30 The National Science Foundation recently spent $30,000 on a study to determine if “gaydar” actually exists.  This is the conclusion that the researchers reached at the end of the study….

“Gaydar is indeed real and… its accuracy is driven by sensitivity to individual facial features”
Here are 30 more examples of outrageous government waste from one of my previous articles entitled “Chimps Throwing Poop And 29 Other Mind Blowing Ways That The Government Is Wasting Your Money“…

#1 In 2011, the National Institutes of Health spent $592,527 on a study that sought to figure out once and for all why chimpanzees throw poop.

#2 The National Institutes of Health has spent more than 5 million dollars on a website called Sexpulse that is targeted at “men who use the Internet to seek sex with men”.  According to Fox News, the website “includes pornographic images of homosexual sex as well as naked and scantily clad men” and features “a Space Invaders-style interactive game that uses a penis-shaped blaster to shoot down gay epithets.”

#3 The General Services Administration spent $822,751 on a “training conference” for 300 west coast employees at the M Resort and Casino in Las Vegas.

The following is how the Washington Post described some of the wasteful expenses that happened during this “conference”…

Among the “excessive, wasteful and in some cases impermissable” spending the inspector general documented: $5,600 for three semi-private catered in-room parties and $44 per person daily breakfasts; $75,000 for a “team-building” exercise — the goal was to build a bicycle; $146,000 on catered food and drinks; and $6,325 on commemorative coins in velvet boxes to reward all participants for their work on stimulus projects. The $31,208 “networking” reception featured a $19-per-person artisanal cheese display and $7,000 of sushi. At the conference’s closing-night dinner, employees received “yearbooks” with their pictures, at a cost of $8,130.
You can see some stunning pictures of GSA employees living the high life in Las Vegas right here.

#4 Do you remember when credit rating agency Egan Jones downgraded U.S. government debt from AA+ to AA?  Well, someone in the federal government apparently did not like that at all.  According to Zero Hedge, the SEC plans to file charges against Egan Jones for “misstatements” on a regulatory application with the SEC.

Normally, the SEC does not go after anyone.  After all, when is the last time a major banker went to prison?

No, the truth is that the SEC is usually just a huge waste of taxpayer money.  According to ABC News, one investigation found that 17 senior SEC officials had been regularly viewing pornography while at work.  While the American people were paying their salaries, this is what senior SEC officials were busy doing…

One senior attorney at SEC headquarters in Washington spent up to eight hours a day accessing Internet porn, according to the report, which has yet to be released. When he filled all the space on his government computer with pornographic images, he downloaded more to CDs and DVDs that accumulated in boxes in his offices.

An SEC accountant attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two-week period and had 600 pornographic images on her computer hard drive.

Another SEC accountant used his SEC-issued computer to upload his own sexually explicit videos onto porn websites he joined.

And another SEC accountant attempted to access porn sites 16,000 times in a single month.
#5 According to InformationWeek, the federal government is spending “millions of dollars” to train Asian call center workers.

#6 If you can believe it, the federal government has actually spent $750,000 on a new soccer field for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.

#7 The U.S. Agency for International Development spent 10 million dollars to create a version of “Sesame Street” for Pakistani television.

#8 The Obama administration has plans to spend between 16 and 20 million dollars to help students from Indonesia get master’s degrees.

#9 The National Science Foundation spent $198,000 on a University of California-Riverside study that explored “motivations, expectations and goal pursuit in social media.” One of the questions the study sought an answer to was the following: “Do unhappy people spend more time on Twitter or Facebook?”

#10 The federal government actually has spent $175,587 “to determine if cocaine makes Japanese quail engage in sexually risky behavior”.

#11 In 2011, $147,138 was given to the American Museum of Magic in Marshall, Michigan.  Their best magic trick is making U.S. taxpayer dollars disappear.

#12 The federal government recently spent $74,000 to help Michigan “increase awareness about the role Michigan plays in the production of trees and poinsettias.”

#13 In 2011, the federal government gave $550,000 toward the making of a documentary about how rock and roll contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union.

#14 The National Institutes of Health has contributed $55,382 toward a study of “hookah smoking habits” in the country of Jordan.

#15 The federal government gave $606,000 to researchers at Columbia University to study how heterosexuals use the Internet to find love.

#16 A total of $133,277 was recently given to the International Center for the History of Electronic Games for video game preservation.  The International Center for the History of Electronic Games says that it “collects, studies, and interprets video games, other electronic games, and related materials and the ways in which electronic games are changing how people play, learn, and connect with each other, including across boundaries of culture and geography.”

#17 The federal government has given approximately $3 million to researchers at the University of California at Irvine to fund their research into video games such as World of Warcraft.

#18 In 2011, the National Science Foundation gave one team of researchers$149,990 to create a video game called “RapidGuppy” for cell phones and other mobile devices.

#19 The U.S. Department of Agriculture once handed researchers at the University of New Hampshire $700,000 to study methane gas emissions from dairy cows.

#20 In 2011, $936,818 was spent developing an online soap opera entitled “Diary of a Single Mom”.  The show “chronicles the lives and challenges of three single mothers and their families trying to get ahead despite obstacles that all single mothers face, such as childcare, healthcare, education, and finances.”

#21 The federal government once shelled out $2.6 million to train Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly.

#22 Last year, the federal government spent $96,000 to buy iPads for kindergarten students in Maine.

#23 The U.S. Postal Service once spent $13,500 for a single dinner at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse.

#24 In 2011, the Air Force Academy completed work on an outdoor worship area for pagans and Wiccans.  The worship area consists of “a small Stonehenge-like circle of boulders with [a] propane fire pit” and it cost $51,474to build.  The worship area is “for the handful of current or future cadets whose religions fall under the broad category of ‘Earth-based’, which includes Wiccans, druids and pagans.”  At this point, that only includes 3 current students at the Air Force Academy.

#25 The National Institutes of Health once gave researchers $400,000 to study why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk.

#26 The National Institutes of Health once gave researchers $442,340 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam.

#27 The National Institutes of Health once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa.

#28 The National Science Foundation recently spent $200,000 on a study that examined how voters react when politicians change their stances on climate change.

#29 The federal government recently spent $484,000 to help build a Mellow Mushroom pizzeria in Arlington, Texas.

#30 At this point, China is holding over a trillion dollars of U.S. government debt.  But that didn’t stop the United States from sending 17.8 million dollars in foreign aid to China in 2011.
 
:LOL:

That is utter bullshit. The EU was not a mistake! The EU was a very wise thing to do. Without the EU, Europe could be at war once again. Without the EU; people would not have the essential human right of freedom of movement. Without the EU, Europe would become as deregulated as the US, and they would have widespread lobbying. That would be very bad. In the US, over 90% of corn, soy, rapeseed/canola, and cotton is GMO. The EU only has one GMO approved for human consumption, and GMOs have to be labeled. Many EU countries such as France, Ireland, Austria, Luxembourg, and others have banned GMOs. Could you imagine if that happened in the US? Corporations have a lot of power in the US.

The European Project has succeeded so far, and it shall not "implode". Yes, Europe has been having economic problems as of late, but so has much of the world. The economy in Europe is getting much better. Integration is increasing, and more nations are joining the EU.

Do you honestly think, that small nations like Luxembourg and Malta could survive on their one without the EU? They are too small to have lots of embassies, consulates, ambassadors, etc. It would just be idiotic for these countries to release their own currency; thus they have the Euro.

More nations will join the Euro in the coming years, like Denmark, Poland, etc. You say that the Euro was a mistake, and that it has imploded. How so? Why? Because, it hasn't. The € is still worth more than the $.

And as for an "American Union", it will never happen. North American nations don't have much in common, but geography. Mexico iscalligned with the Latin American sphere. Canada is aligned with the UK, The Commonwealth, and Europe. It has much more in common with them, than the US and Mexico. The US would ever join such a union as, most Americans are reluctant to change. The entirety of the world except the US and Liberia (Burma is converting to the Metric System.) uses the metric system. It makes so much more sense, is much easier to use and remember; yet Americans favour the US system of measurements. I am American and a European, but I use the metric system, as it makes immensely more sense.
Lol and likewise your rant is utter Bullshit.
Nun weg von meinem ansicht.
 
Lol and likewise your rant is utter Bullshit.
Nun weg von meinem ansicht.

I can speak German too.

Nun, das ist Ihre Ansicht shit, zu diesem Thema, mindestens. Ich habe nicht auf einer rant gehen, ich die Wahrheit sprach. Sie hatte noch nicht einmal einen guten Gegenbeweis. Kannst du nicht eine Widerlegung zumindest tun? Auch Sie sind indische? Als die Arier waren ein Stamm aus Indien. Arier sind keine Deutschen, noch sind sie Europäer. Sie müssen besser informiert werden. Die Europäische Union hat den Krieg in Europa seit seiner Gründung verhindert. Die meisten europäischen Staaten nicht auf ihr eigenes überleben, ohne die EU. Europa muss vorwärts gehen. und der einzige Weg, das zu tun, ist für Europa weiter zu vereinen und zu integrieren. Europa muss nicht rückwärts gehen, noch wird es nach hinten zu gehen, wenn Sie würde es mögen. Die EU hat nicht implodiert, und keiner hat der Euro. Auch, warum haben Sie ein Europa-und EU-Forum Sie beitreten, noch sind Anti-Europa-und Anti-EU? Das ist ein vollkommener Widerspruch, und macht keinen Sinn zu machen.

Also, noch einmal, was du gesagt hast ist Bullshit, ohne sachliche Unterstützung auch immer. Sie müssen lesen rechts Propaganda zu stoppen, und lesen unvoreingenommene Nachrichten wie BBC, Euronews, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, usw.
 
I can speak German too.

Nun, das ist Ihre Ansicht shit, zu diesem Thema, mindestens. Ich habe nicht auf einer rant gehen, ich die Wahrheit sprach. Sie hatte noch nicht einmal einen guten Gegenbeweis. Kannst du nicht eine Widerlegung zumindest tun? Auch Sie sind indische? Als die Arier waren ein Stamm aus Indien. Arier sind keine Deutschen, noch sind sie Europäer. Sie müssen besser informiert werden. Die Europäische Union hat den Krieg in Europa seit seiner Gründung verhindert. Die meisten europäischen Staaten nicht auf ihr eigenes überleben, ohne die EU. Europa muss vorwärts gehen. und der einzige Weg, das zu tun, ist für Europa weiter zu vereinen und zu integrieren. Europa muss nicht rückwärts gehen, noch wird es nach hinten zu gehen, wenn Sie würde es mögen. Die EU hat nicht implodiert, und keiner hat der Euro. Auch, warum haben Sie ein Europa-und EU-Forum Sie beitreten, noch sind Anti-Europa-und Anti-EU? Das ist ein vollkommener Widerspruch, und macht keinen Sinn zu machen.

Also, noch einmal, was du gesagt hast ist Bullshit, ohne sachliche Unterstützung auch immer. Sie müssen lesen rechts Propaganda zu stoppen, und lesen unvoreingenommene Nachrichten wie BBC, Euronews, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, usw.
Ein Schlechtes translator. Nochmal weg, habe keine zeit fuer dich
 
Ein Schlechtes translator. Nochmal weg, habe keine zeit fuer dich

Ich habe nicht eine verdammte Übersetzer. Ihre Deutschkenntnisse sind schlecht, sollten Sie gesagt haben, gehen wieder weg, ich habe keine Zeit für Sie. Aber weil du in grammatikalischen Fähigkeiten fehlen in Deutsch, konnte man nicht sagen. Selbst das Wort für "translator" ist nicht es ist ein Übersetzer. Dass nur zeigte ferner, Ihre mangelnden Deutschkenntnissen. Ich bin nicht deutscher Abstammung, aber ich spreche besser Deutsch? Sie sollten Rosetta Stone zu kaufen, dann haben Sie vielleicht wäre fließend in Deutsch. Sie noch nie zu meinem ursprünglichen Punkt reagiert. Könnten Sie zumindest das getan haben?
 
Lol ja ja ueberzetzer. Sie sollten richtig sagen, ich spreche besser deutsch als Sie, oder? Aber mach nichts, habe jetz viel zu tun. Guten glueck
 

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