New study claims that Irishmen descended from Turkish farmers

R* became extinct and was renamed to MA-1

basal R-m207 has origins in Malaysia

basal R1 has originas in central asia

basal R2 has origins in north India


read karafet paper june 2014

Mal'ta Boy, also known as MA-1 (short for Malta 1) is Y haplotype R. Close to the root of R, I would say, looking at a diagram of the placement, but R nevertheless. There is no such thing as a Y haplotype MA-1.

The Karafet paper deals with the much earlier splitting off of haplogroups M and P from haplogroup K.
 
Unbelievable is that here on this site people ignore scientific findings that R1b in Western Europe is result of spread of agriculture. I haven't seen even one academic paper suggesting that R1b founder effect could be simultaneous to spread of Indo-European languages. Mainstream science attributed the spread of R1b in Western Europe the Neolithic revolution for last four years. In contrast, anyone who tries to connect spread of R1b to the expansion of Indo-European languages ​​invents exotic theories that have no scientific background. E.g. Theory of IE conquest through western Europe with nearly total population replacement on more than 1 million square kilometers covered mostly with dense forest, difficult to access mountains, swamps and islands located far away from continental Europe, that is just preposterous, or some twisted theory about Basque's origins, or theory that R1b men produces more boys. While widely accepted theory of spread of agriculture need no such conditions, if farmers ware able to produce enough food to sustain 7 to 9 times higher population density it is enough to them to come to Europe dominated by hunter-gatherers and start to farming to produce 70% R1b ( farmers) and 10 I ( hunter gathers).
Theory that R1b was brought by Indo-Europeans is just wishful thinking.

Well if that's true then we should find lots of LBK era R1b ydna over the next few years.

If it's not, we'll find lots of LBK era G ydna and R1b only in later eras.
 
irish people descend from central asian r1b albinos

HEIMAT.jpg

it is a scientific fact that red hair and blonde hair is tyrosinase defect and has nothing to do with adaptation to low uv or cold climate, northerners still have the highest skin cancer rate(my aunt sadly died of skin cancer) and get rickets(which debunks the theory white skin gets more vitamin d) even in their latitude and many people in my family had eyes surgeries because of oca(which is not funny at all)!!! not to tell you almost everyone must wear glasses, its not funny i am slavic white european i for sure know what i am speaking about. i am into scientific facts which prove we are oca1b not übermenschen! hitlers theory based on denial of tyrosinase defect(oca1b) and inferiority complex lead us to racism and a false feeling that our recessive genes are something superior to the rest of humanity which has healthy melanin levels..

http://www.visionfortomorrow.org/genetics-of-albinism/

so here we have our ginger irish and germanic blonde "aryan" übermenschen
pic3.jpg

irish_vs_indian_man.jpg

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-276...-man-with-heavily-freckled-lips-and-skin.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/124744348@N02/14268211977
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24067855@N06/12592938275
 


http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=21926

how possible when our white skin is supposedly adapted to low uv and better at vitamin d production(hoax)

even seals and polar bears have dark skin to absorb sun rays as well as frying pans, it is impossible for us whites to produce any vitamin d cause we lack melanin! only way is to supplement or eat oily fish..

ever wondered why in europe and america all products are fortified with vitamin d?!
http://www.nysopep.org/images/Prevention_VitaminD.jpg


http://www.arkive.org/harp-seal/pagophilus-groenlandicus/image-G66383.html
http://www.tickypages.com/2007_Nov/Zoo_31.jpg
http://www.lecreuset.co.uk/Shallow-Frying-Pans.aspx
 


even seals and polar bears have dark skin to absorb sun rays as well as frying pans, it is impossible for us whites to produce any vitamin d cause we lack melanin! only way is to supplement or eat oily fish..
This is crazy and inaccurate beyond belief!


ever wondered why in europe and america all products are fortified with vitamin d?!
Without escaping into conspiracy and fantasy world, the simple answer is: Because we spend too much time inside buildings, wear clothing all the time and apply sunscreen in the summer. All this 3 things will produce vitamin D3 deficiency in us. We don't spend half a year working the fields like our ancestor were.
 
your ignorance does not surprise me..

Let's first define Albinism though:

Albinism is the PARTIAL or TOTAL loss of pigmentation. It affects the color of the skin, the color of the hair and the color of the eyes and it can affect the texture of the hair.

What this means is that there are people/Whites who are still albino WITH pigmentation. This is OCA2.

ANY LOSS OF PIGMENTATION IS ALBINISM. Albinism can also cause straightening of the hair

Good, now we've got that out of the way.

There are 4 types of Albinism. Each type affects the pigmentation of the hair, skin and eye color.

This information is NOT hard to find. I got this from the NATIONAL INSTITUTE of HEALTH: AKA NIH

Here is the link, it was done in 2004, it has NOW been found that the mutation of the alanine allele (SCL24A5-an African gene for pigmentation) accounts for the THR111 gene found in Whites and THIS IS WHY they are more genetically related to Asians.

Oculocutaneous albinism - Genetics Home Reference


THR111 Alleles
http://paspcr.med.umn.edu/Commentary...commentary.pdf
Allelic Variations of SLC24A5

There are many genes that affect skin pigmentation, what it doesn't take away is the fact that ANY LOSS IN PIGMENTATION IN THE HAIR, EYES AND SKIN, no matter how minute is in fact ALBINISM.

It's not meant to be mean, it's just a fact. I always though there was just one type!


Oculocutaneous Albinism Type 1

Disease characteristics. Oculocutaneous albinism type 1 (OCA1) is characterized by reduced synthesis of melanin in the skin, hair, and eyes, associated with ocular findings of nystagmus, reduced iris pigment with iris translucency, reduced retinal pigment, foveal hypoplasia with significantly reduced visual acuity usually in the range of 20/100 to 20/400, and misrouting of the optic nerves resulting in alternating strabismus and reduced stereoscopic vision. Individuals with OCA1A have white hair, white skin that does not tan, and fully translucent irises that do not darken with age. At birth, individuals with OCA1B have white or very light yellow hair that darkens with age, white skin that over time develops some generalized pigment and may tan with sun exposure, and blue irises that change to green/hazel or brown/tan with age. Visual acuity may be 20/60 or better in some individuals.


Oculocutaneous albinism, type 2

Tyrosinase-positive oculocutaneous albinism (OCA, type II) is an autosomal recessive disorder in which the biosynthesis of melanin pigment is reduced in skin, hair, and eyes. Although affected infants may appear at birth to have OCA type I, or complete absence of melanin pigment, most patients with OCA type II acquire small amounts of pigment with age. Individuals with OCA type II have the characteristic visual anomalies associated with albinism, including decreased acuity and nystagmus, which are usually less severe than in OCA type I. OCA type II is the most common type of oculocutaneous albinism in the world.

The gene OCA2, when in a variant form, the gene causes the pink eye color and hypopigmentation common in human albinism. Different SNPs within OCA2 are strongly associated with blue and green eyes. Hair color is the pigmentation of hair follicles due to two types of melanin, eumelanin and pheomelanin. Generally, if more melanin is present, the color of the hair is darker; if less melanin is present, the hair is lighter. Blond hair can have almost any proportion of phaeomelanin and eumelanin, but both only in small amounts. More phaeomelanin creates a more golden blond color, and more eumelanin creates an ash blond. Blond hair is common in many European peoples, but rare among peoples of non-European origin. Many children born with blond hair develop darker hair as they age. Red hair ranges from vivid strawberry shades to deep auburn and burgundy, and is the rarest fully distinct hair color on earth. It is caused by a variation in the Mc1r gene and believed to be recessive. Red hair has the highest amounts of phaeomelanin and usually low levels of eumelanin, and is the rarest natural human hair color.

Oculocutaneous albinism, type 3

Oculocutaneous albinism, type 3: A rare inherited disorder characterized by slightly reduced pigmentation in the skin, eyes and hair (due to a genetic mutation of the TYRP1 gene). Type 3 is characterized by some pigmentation of the iris despite the complete absence of tyrosinase which is needed for the production of melanin which gives the skin, hair and eyes their color. Those with OCA3 may have, Reddish-brown skin, Ginger hair, Red hair, Hazel iris, Brown iris. Type 3 also has the milder eye problems than the other types.

Light-skinned Whites with tyrosinase-negative albinism have pale skin and hair color ranging from white to yellow; their pupils appear red because of translucent irides. Blacks with the same disorder have hair that may be white, faintly tinged with yellow, or yellow-brown. Both Whites and Blacks with tyrosinase-positive albinism grow darker as they age. For instance, their hair may become straw-colored or light brown and their skin cream-colored or pink. People with tyrosinase-positive albinism may also have freckles and pigmented nevi that may require excision.

This form of albinism was referred to as 'rufous oculocutaneous albinism (ROCA)' when it was found in southern African blacks. In blacks the disorder is characterized by bright copper-red coloration of the skin and hair and dilution of the color of the iris. Manga et al. (1997) suggested that albinism caused by mutation in the TYRP1 gene should be referred to as OCA3

In New York City rather numerous cases are seen in Puerto Rican families from the Aguadilla-Arecibo area of northwestern Puerto Rico. Albinism in dark-skinned persons such as Puerto Ricans is not always obvious because freckled skin and reddish hair may be present. Red reflex on transillumination of the iris and nystagmus are important clues to the diagnosis.

In tyrosinase-variable albinism, at birth the child's hair is white, his skin is pink, and his eyes are gray. As he grows older, though, his hair becomes yellow, his irides may become darker, and his skin may even tan slightly. The skin of a person with albinism is easily damaged by the sun. It may look weather-beaten and is highly susceptible to precancerous and cancerous growths. The patient may also have photophobia, myopia, strabismus, and congenital horizontal nystagmus.


Oculocutaneous Albinism, Type 4

Disease characteristics. Oculocutaneous albinism type 4 (OCA4) is characterized by hypopigmentation of the skin and hair plus the characteristic ocular changes found in all other types of albinism, including nystagmus; reduced iris pigment with iris translucency; reduced retinal pigment with visualization of the choroidal blood vessels on ophthalmoscopic examination; foveal hypoplasia associated with reduction in visual acuity; and misrouting of the optic nerves at the chiasm associated with alternating strabismus, reduced stereoscopic vision, and an altered visual evoked potential (VEP). Individuals with OCA4 are usually recognized within the first year of life because of hypopigmentation of the hair and skin and the ocular features of nystagmus and strabismus. Vision is likely to be stable after early childhood. The amount of cutaneous pigmentation in OCA4 ranges from minimal to near normal. Newborns with OCA4 usually have some pigment in their hair, with color ranging from silvery white to light yellow. Hair color may darken with time, but does not vary significantly from childhood to adulthood. This form of albinism is rarer than OCA2, except in the Japanese population.


22. Squamous-cell carcinoma in situ in a patient with oculocutaneous albinism

Now, of course Caucs are more genetically related to asians. But they they share a common ancestor. the Africans that were over there became you guessed it, ALBINO and that is a genetic mutation causing a difference in the allele genes. Over time they became a sub-species of the originals, all of whom were African. There's a reason it traced back to Africans. I will provide you with ancient pics of Asian statues.

It's funny how Asians (specifically in China, Japan etc...) and Whites are Caucs, who share no phenotypical likeness are the same, but Africans who actually do look alike aren't Black lol....

Back to meat:


Here is Whites' theory:

The original Black settlers of Europe TURNED WHITE because they became FARMERS, who ate only farm produce devoid of Vitamin D. And, the lessened solar duration and intensity in the Northern regions REQUIRED a Whitening of the skin for faster absorption of UV radiation and production of Vitamin D. So then, White skin absorbs Sunlight FASTER? Let's see.

1) Modern Whites in Europe are Germanics, Slavs, and Turks. They have nothing to do with ancient ANYBODY in Europe. They are migrants from Central Asia in the CURRENT era. Any encyclopedia will document their entry into Europe.

2) These Whites in Central Asia were Nomads - NOT FARMERS! Their diet was rich in Meats and FISH! Plus they had plenty of Sunshine - in Kazakhstan-south, for eight months of the year, the average UV intensity is level 8 out of a maximum 11. Thus there was no reason to turn White there!

3) Whites did NOT bring agriculture to Europe, Blacks from the South did, and they did NOT turn White.

4) European Whites in the early current era were NOT farmers - Farming is very RECENT to European Whites!.

5) The Whitest of the Whites in Europe - the Germans, inhabited Costal WESTERN Europe and Scotland - regions rich in fish and game animals - ancient Germany and modern Germany are different areas.

The Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus (56-118 A.D.) said this about them: For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them. Does THAT sound like FARMERS?

During the time of Tacitus, Germans inhabited Caledonia (Scotland), the rest of Britain was inhabited by Blacks, they were the original settlers of Britain, and STILL BLACK! Tacitus describes them thusly: "The DARK complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts. Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities."

Moving along, let's examine some other things huh?

6) A Human being requires ONLY 15 minutes of Sunshine, on face or hands, TWICE a week, for good health! Thus no reason for Black people to turn White.

But for the sake of argument, lets accept this bit of White myth, that Blacks TURNED White because of Vitamin D deficiency - Lets test it. Think of the absurdity of this: Black humans survived in Europe for about 35,000 years, then all of a sudden, their bodies were not getting enough vitamin "D": forcing them to lighten their skin. The problem is: logically, BEFORE there could be any evolutionary movement toward lighter skin - the population would have DIED OUT from Rickets! This supports Albinism, but there were Blacks

Rickets

Rickets is a softening of bones in children due to deficiency or impaired metabolism of vitamin D, phosphorus or calcium, potentially leading to fractures and deformity. The Roman physician Soranus reported deformation of the bones in infants as early as the first and second centuries AD. He attributed these deformities as resulting from the failure of Roman mothers to properly nurture and clean their children, but didn't directly implicate poor diet in the condition. Rickets wasn't defined as a specific medical condition until 1645, when an Englishman named Daniel Whistler gave the earliest known description of the disease while still studying medicine.

Rickets was very common in industrialized cities around the turn of the twentieth century, both in the United States and in Europe. It was most common among the poorer, less privileged people and often affected infants. Still, there was not a complete understanding that the condition was caused by poor nutrition, although it was considered a potential cause, along with lack of fresh air and sunshine. In the late nineteenth century, strides had been made toward finding a cure for rickets. At the London Zoo in 1889, lion cubs were fed a diet of boneless lean meat. When some cubs developed florid rickets, they were treated by the addition of cod liver oil and crushed bones to their meals, and made a full recovery.

What causes rickets? Regardless of the type of rickets, the cause is always either due to a deficiency of vitamin D, calcium, or phosphate. Three common causes of rickets include nutritional rickets, hypophosphatemic rickets, and renal rickets.

So to carry the absurdity to its logical conclusion: supposing that these Black people turning White, survived thousands of years of Rickets - in a non-deformed state, and then appeared as modern Whites. Then why would MODERN Whites STILL get Rickets? Wasn't the whole point of evolution to develop White skin, just for the "SUPPOSED" reason that Sunlight could be quickly and efficiently absorbed by the White skin, just to AVOID such things? You would have built up the resistance to sustain Rickets. Albinism is the stabilized norm for White skin, but there are variations of Albinism and not all lost total pigmentation.
 
by the way every tribe living in the coldest environments is brown skinned as the polar bear under his fur because melanin absorbs heat from uv rays! from nenets to eskimos to tibetians to south american indians all of these groups lives in the coldest climate have brown skin!!!

yes we whites are perfectly adapted to cold low uv environment (irony)
http://www.imt.ie/clinical/2011/01/re-emergence-of-rickets-and-vitamin-d-deficiency.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...uffers-sunburn-skiing-Austrian-mountains.html

The following OCA2 variants, all located in the first intron of the gene, have been linked to blue eye inheritance; together, they form a haplotype that occurs in 90% of individuals seen with blue or green eye color, but can also be seen in 10% of individuals with brown eye color
http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Eye_color
http://www.gfmer.ch/genetic_diseases_v2/gendis_detail_list.php?cat3=808
 
your ignorance does not surprise me..

Let's first define Albinism though:

Albinism is the PARTIAL or TOTAL loss of pigmentation. It affects the color of the skin, the color of the hair and the color of the eyes and it can affect the texture of the hair.

What this means is that there are people/Whites who are still albino WITH pigmentation. This is OCA2.

ANY LOSS OF PIGMENTATION IS ALBINISM. Albinism can also cause straightening of the hair

Good, now we've got that out of the way.

There are 4 types of Albinism. Each type affects the pigmentation of the hair, skin and eye color.

This information is NOT hard to find. I got this from the NATIONAL INSTITUTE of HEALTH: AKA NIH
Eurasian blondism is more complicated than sporadic OCA gene mutation causing albinism, which is deemed as a disease. Here is a list of known genes involved in depigmentation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color




Here is Whites' theory:

The original Black settlers of Europe TURNED WHITE because they became FARMERS, who ate only farm produce devoid of Vitamin D. And, the lessened solar duration and intensity in the Northern regions REQUIRED a Whitening of the skin for faster absorption of UV radiation and production of Vitamin D. So then, White skin absorbs Sunlight FASTER? Let's see.

1) Modern Whites in Europe are Germanics, Slavs, and Turks. They have nothing to do with ancient ANYBODY in Europe. They are migrants from Central Asia in the CURRENT era. Any encyclopedia will document their entry into Europe.
Completely wrong. Recent multiple genetic studies proved that most genetic material in Europeans comes from local hunter gatherers and neolithic farmers from Near East who showed up in Europe about 9 kya. Recent Asian genetic influence is not bigger than 20%.

2) These Whites in Central Asia were Nomads - NOT FARMERS! Their diet was rich in Meats and FISH! Plus they had plenty of Sunshine - in Kazakhstan-south, for eight months of the year, the average UV intensity is level 8 out of a maximum 11. Thus there was no reason to turn White there!
They are not exactly as white as Northern Europeans, are they? Regardless, all people of Northern latitudes are of white or olive skin. Also from genetic research we know that skin whitening was a long and gradual process on a scale of thousands of years. You know, a looooooooong time.

To prove your point show us one example of a tribe/ethnicity of northern latitudes whose skin colour is black or dark brown. Just one example dude! Or perhaps you think that Eskimos are recent migrants for India too?

3) Whites did NOT bring agriculture to Europe, Blacks from the South did, and they did NOT turn White.
What a pile of crap! Neither whites nor blacks. Farmers from Near East of whatever their skin tone was.


4) European Whites in the early current era were NOT farmers - Farming is very RECENT to European Whites!.
Did you hear about archaeology? Vedun, I'm losing my patience with you again.

5) The Whitest of the Whites in Europe - the Germans, inhabited Costal WESTERN Europe and Scotland
Wow, Germans lived in Scotland! It is not only a fantasy of yours, you come from different Universe.

During the time of Tacitus, Germans inhabited Caledonia (Scotland), the rest of Britain was inhabited by Blacks,
I think you just lost it, dude.


Moving along, let's examine some other things huh?
lets not, it stinks already.

6) A Human being requires ONLY 15 minutes of Sunshine, on face or hands, TWICE a week, for good health! Thus no reason for Black people to turn White.
lol, thank you doctor Vedun.

But for the sake of argument, lets accept this bit of White myth, that Blacks TURNED White because of Vitamin D deficiency - Lets test it. Think of the absurdity of this: Black humans survived in Europe for about 35,000 years, then all of a sudden, their bodies were not getting enough vitamin "D": forcing them to lighten their skin. The problem is: logically, BEFORE there could be any evolutionary movement toward lighter skin - the population would have DIED OUT from Rickets! This supports Albinism, but there were Blacks
Again your spatial and temporal affliction is acting up. The march north was slow through thousands of years. You know, thousands of years and thousands of kilometers, looooong time and loooong way. Long enough to pick up whitening mutations.


So to carry the absurdity to its logical conclusion: supposing that these Black people turning White
, Show us one northern tribe who is black! And I will believe in your absurdity.

This is a map of skin colour. Do you see that it is gradient? The darkest skin in tropic area and the lightest closer to poles? Do you see the pattern, and regardless of continent.
300px-Unlabeled_Renatto_Luschan_Skin_color_map.svg.png
 
by the way every tribe living in the coldest environments is brown skinned as the polar bear under his fur because melanin absorbs heat from uv rays! from nenets to eskimos to tibetians to south american indians all of these groups lives in the coldest climate have brown skin!!!
Very light brown and their diet is rich in vitamin D3, far away from dark brown or black skin.

inuit-kids.jpg

For comparison there is a blonde european girl on the left and maybe on in the center.


You don't have even one example of black tribe who lives up north, rith? Give up your insane hypotheses.
 
first of all i am not any vedun(no clue who you refer to) or whomever you try to associate me with so to make it clear!

you are constantly in a state of denial even when i showed you load of clear evidence backed up by science

You don't have even one example of black tribe who lives up north, rith? Give up your insane hypotheses.
what is black in your view?! because black people have the broadest diversity of all people on earth and by the way 90% of people on earth have brown skin(falsely called black)

so here we go with a list of people living in the coldest climates on earth showing your skin colour map to be a hoax created to make the impression albinism is an adaptation to cold environment:

tibetian men
http://www.plateauculture.org/sites...wide-295/geoimage/image-node-747-file-612.jpg
https://photos.travelblog.org/Photos/2957/30088/f/149808-A-Tibetan-man-0.jpg

eskimo men
http://www.der.org/films/images/at-the-winter-sea-ice-camp.jpg
http://image1.masterfile.com/getIma...g-caribou-skin--Spence-Bay--Boothia-Penin.jpg

quechua indian
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-111...-in-cusco-peru-on-june-quechua-are-known.html

alaskan indian
http://indianlaw.org/node/1009

nepalese sherpa
http://asiancorrespondent.com/77238/everest-hero-highlights-flood-threat-in-himalayas/

should i go on?!..

Comparisons of skin temperature responses of the foot during local cold exposure to water and air were made between highland Quechua Indian and United States white adult male subjects. Indians were tested at high altitude in Nuñoa, Peru (4000 m) and whites were tested at sea level in the United States. During tests in cold air, Indians were able to maintain substantially higher skin temperatures than whites. Within each race-group, subjects who showed cold-induced vasodilatory responses had, in general, higher skin temperatures. Yet the Indians who did not show this response were still able to maintain warmer skin temperatures than whites who did respond with cold-induced vasodilations. Results from tests in cold water and cold air suggest that Quechua Indians have a thermal advantage over U. S. whites under conditions of moderate local cold stress, but that this advantage becomes less marked with increasingly acute cold exposures. The higher skin temperatures that were found during afternoon exposures were attributed to diurnal variations in body temperatures, and investigators were cautioned against making comparisons of subjects tested at different times during the day.
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.23...id=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21105447957213

so again here you habe another proof brown skin is needed even in cold low uv environments because melanin collects heat from the sun rays to warm up the body this explains why whites are albinos not adapted to either cold or warm environments and why polar bears and seals both have dark skin to stay warm in cold climate by collecting heat from sunrays just like a black frying pan! this also explains why we whites get sunburn even in winter and why we lack vitamin d without fish or supplements because oca1b individuals simply lack melanin to produce vitamin d otherwise they would not sell fortified food with calcium and vitamin d in sunny california!!!

the fact we whites are albinos also explains why we are the minority on this planet and also why the irish red hair is the rarest hair colour on earth and why blondism red hair and blue eyes are common in all albino species from humans to snakes regardles of race or species..
 
first of all i am not any vedun(no clue who you refer to) or whomever you try to associate me with so to make it clear!

you are constantly in a state of denial even when i showed you load of clear evidence backed up by science


what is black in your view?! because black people have the broadest diversity of all people on earth and by the way 90% of people on earth have brown skin(falsely called black)

so here we go with a list of people living in the coldest climates on earth showing your skin colour map to be a hoax created to make the impression albinism is an adaptation to cold environment:

Why are you showing pictures of sun tanned people?

Here are Europeans:
fooqyt.jpg
tamara-eccleston-skin-suntan.jpg



07+Suntanned+Legs+&+Feet+Of+8TV+Rickman+Baki+Zainal+Malaysia+Cycling-078.jpg



You are fight Europeans are still dark brown!

This one is about right. Light olive skin of hunter gatherers of the north.


Show me colour of natural Inuit or Eskimo skin, please.

PS. See the picture I posted with kids? Winter, kids of mixed races, (kids these days white or not spend lots of time inside, not getting much of suntan), good to compare skin tones. Not perfect but the best we can get with quick search picture wise.
 
your ignorance is overwhelming this shows you did not even read a third from what i posted on last pages

http://www.visionfortomorrow.org/genetics-of-albinism/

To date, there are several identified types of albinism. Below you will find a brief description of each:

Ocular Albinism (OA) affects only the eyes, not the skin or hair. It results from an X-linked chromosomal inheritance and so occurs mostly in boys.

Oculocutaneous Albinism (OCA) affects the eyes, hair and skin and includes several different forms. The first form, OCA1 involves the tyrosinase enzyme, which converts tyrosine (an amino acid) into melanin. Melanin is a chemical that colors our skin, eyes and hair. OCA1 includes two sub-groups:
OCA1a: Those with this type of albinism have no pigment and no active tyrosinase
OCA1b: Those with this type of albinism have some residual tyrosinase activity and so have some pigment. Although they have decreased pigmentation at birth, it may increase slightly throughout their lives. People in this group may even have the ability to sun tan.

inuit baby natural skin!
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/344314333984362917/

tell these people blondism and white skin is an adaptation..
http://albinism-alliance.org/category/organization-info/

or these blonde lions
http://rockyc5.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/white-lions-panthera-leo-spp/
 
tell to my slavic grandmother she is here eyes are an cold low uv adaptation after several eye surgeries and my aunt which sadly died of skin cancer while living in the tatra mountains.. you are really out of your mind claiming we whites are adapted to our environment

in this case you are the one who tries to beat science by fantasy and ridiculous claims!

Scandinavian countries have the highest number of skin cancer cases in all of Europe, despite having the most sun-deprived climates. Sweden leads the Nordic countries, with 45,000 people diagnosed with skin cancer each year. 500 die from the disease annually, in particular from melanoma, which is more than the yearly total of fatalities from road traffic accidents.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5123470
 
your ignorance is overwhelming this shows you did not even read a third from what i posted on last pages

Just one tribe of black skinned northerners, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase! Come on, how difficult is it to prove you hypotheses?

Another map of skin colours. And wow, they correlate with sun intensity.
skin-color-chart-for-the-world.jpg


Did you notice that map doesn't show brown Inuits or Eskimo? Exactly like my picture of Inuit kids. Look again, don't miss it this time:
inuit-kids.jpg


I have main stream science and observational science behind me. What do yo have? Your fantasy hypotheses and tanned pictures, and albinism which you don't really understand.
 
tell to my slavic grandmother she is here eyes are an cold low uv adaptation after several eye surgeries and my aunt which sadly died of skin cancer while living in the tatra mountains.. you are really out of your mind claiming we whites are adapted to our environment

in this case you are the one who tries to beat science by fantasy and ridiculous claims!


http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5123470

Sickness from genetic mutation is no joke. However you connecting albinizm to your fantasy world is.
 
you are really master ignorant

i showed you peruvian indian and nepalese sherpas who live 4000 meters above sea level and have dark skin and you still repeat your nonsense(psychological state of denial)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...in-Peru-and-America-including-the-blonde-ones

Sickness from genetic mutation is no joke. However you connecting albinizm to your fantasy world is.
yes buddy, indeed! thats why we whites make up only 8% of humans on earth why the rest is healthy melanated..

you also ignored this!
Results from tests in cold water and cold air suggest that Quechua Indians have a thermal advantage over U. S. whites under conditions of moderate local cold stress
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.23...id=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21105447957213

what? brown skinned indians have a thermal advantage over us supposedly "cold adapted" whites?! hmm

Did you notice that map doesn't show brown Inuits or Eskimo?
yes indeed it doesnt, because it was made to fit eurocentric nonsense and to deny white skin is not an adaptation at all and to deny that people living in the coldest and highest latitudes are in fact brown!.. it is the same like when a south african claims his ancestors built the olmec civilisation just because the olmecs had flat noses.

maybe you watch this to see how real eskimos look like
https://www.nfb.ca/film/angotee_story_of_an_eskimo_boy

and mount everest brown skinned sherpas!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmcE4FOUh8w

also all animals must have been depigmented in northern climate to adapt which is not the case at all!
from seal to polar bear all have dark melanated skin to warm up by sun because melanin carbon absorbs heat
 
you are really master ignorant

i showed you peruvian indian and nepalese sherpas who live 4000 meters above sea level and have dark skin and you still repeat your nonsense(psychological state of denial)
Firstly, we don't know how tanned he is in the picture. Secondly, don't you get that on 4000 meter level UV radiation is few times higher than on the sea level? They are getting doses of UV comparable to people in Africa! It nicely fits in UV radiation model. On top of it Tybet is farther south than Spain. It is not a located in higher latitudes, and I asked you for tribes of higher latitudes. Higher latitude means farther north and not higher up.
No wonder they are darker skin than people farther north. They need to be for cancer protection. Look at this map again. Tybet is included as dark skin region.
skin-color-chart-for-the-world.jpg




yes buddy, indeed! thats why we whites make up only 8% of humans on earth why the rest is healthy melanated..
What 8%? The first 3 shades, on the map above, are white and light brown/olive skin people and they occupy all North, the mid and higher latitudes. And look at China, almost all lighter skin. We are talking about 3 billion of lighter skin people!


http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.23...id=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21105447957213

what? brown skinned indians have a thermal advantage over us supposedly "cold adapted" whites?! hmm
Interesting study, but what the thermal advantage has to do with skin colour? Do you suggest white people originated in Africa?


yes indeed it doesnt, because it was made to fit eurocentric nonsense and to deny white skin is not an adaptation at all and to deny that people living in the coldest and highest latitudes are in fact brown!
Except posting a pictures of tanned Eskimo you are yet to present a proof of black tribe from higher latitudes. I presented the map based on latest scientific research indicating otherwise, and presented pictures of untanned Inuits in mix of europeans kids. They both agree.

Lets make it straight. What you are saying is that Inuit/Eskimo skin colour you call them brown, is comparable to brown of Indians or Africans, who (according to you) used to live around the whole world?

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Are you completely blind?!
 
the snow reflects sun rays this is why scandinavians have highest skin cancer rate even in northern latitude so this again disproves your adaptation to cold nonsense! this just proves a light brown complexion as the eskimos and siberian indians have it is also beneficial in cold environment!

the inuit eskimos etc. are medium brown to light brown and have all brown or black eyes and hair so they are far from being albinos! the polar bear, seal etc have all dark skin and brown eyes not blue eyes and pinkish skin!

they(eskimos etc) also get no skin cancer and rickets in comparison with us supposedly cold adapted whites so what is your poiint here, you disproved nothing..
to categorize nonwhites as whites will not help you to elevate the numbers of whites in the world, because neither latinos, nor asians nor ethiopians or arabs can be considered white "caucasians", neither of them have blondism and blue eyes (except their albinos)
blondism and red hair is found amongst albinos of all cultures and phenotypes and it is not a marker of some imaginary distinct race
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...in-Peru-and-America-including-the-blonde-ones

Interesting study, but what the thermal advantage has to do with skin colour?
man are you serious? thermal advantage of course proves and has to do with the fact that brown skinned indians living in 4000 meters high mountains are more cold resistant than whites which further proves white skin blue eyes and blonde hair are not an adaptation to cold but simply tyrosinase defect (oca1b) also called albinism type 2

the chinese are not white, their complexion varies between yellowish brown and medium brown, and so is the complexion of mostly all asian people and siberian indians and eskimos and inuits! do not try to count them as blonde pinkish blue eyed(whites) just to hide we make up 8% of the world population because the rest has yellowish brown to dark brown skin and eyes!!!

so these people whom our eurocentrists try to claim white are in fact brown eyed dark haired yellowish brown skinned haplogroups N and C !!! these are yellowish brown to medium brown not white.. so please correct your skin map

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Haplogrupo_N_(ADN-Y).PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...on_of_Haplogroup_C-M217_Y-DNA_-_worldwide.png

people who falsify studies and maps to fit their agenda should realise it will not secure them from being exposed by truth which results from honest research
 
how can you be so ignorant and say we whites are healthy cold adapted individuals while science debunks this nonsense with more and more studies which all prove the so called redheads, blondes and "white caucasian" people to be albinos and proves the less melanin you have the more degenerative diseases you have... prone to rickets, anemia, eyes problems, hearing problems, skin cancer, osteoporosis, parkisons, alzheimers etc.. lack of melanin also makes one prone to folic acid damage by uv rays no matter if you live in hot or cold climate because both have enough uv rays which results in sperm damage and children born with disabilities or autism..

so if you want to remain ignorant about truth then go on.. i prefer harsh scientific truth!

several facts:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/06/part-2-autism-and-redheads-the-canaries-in-the-epidemic.html
http://www.visionfortomorrow.org/genetics-of-albinism/
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/what-causes-albinism.html
http://www.reptilic.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=25338&p=199398
http://www.news-medical.net/health/Melanin-and-Disease.aspx
http://www.imt.ie/clinical/2011/01/re-emergence-of-rickets-and-vitamin-d-deficiency.html
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5123470
http://www.gentledoberman.com/doberman-pinscher-information/kinds-colors/white-albino
http://www.reddit.com/r/HumanPorn/comments/2dzocc/blind_albino_boys_in_their_boarding_room_at_a/

asi i said the truth is far from being funny!!!

so to come back on topic, did i say irish people are from asian haplogroup r1b? yes
did i say red hair and blue eyes mostly common in irish people are oca1b tyrosine defect? yes
are those claims bakced by scientific facts? of course they are

conclusion: no the irish are not turkish farmers but indoeuropeans who migrated into europe out of asia and suffer from oca1b tyrosinase defect which makes them famous for having red hair(albinism type 2)..

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/06/autism-and-redheads-the-canaries-in-the-epidemic-part-1.html
 
the snow reflects sun rays this is why scandinavians have highest skin cancer rate even in northern latitude so this again disproves your adaptation to cold nonsense! this just proves a light brown complexion as the eskimos and siberian indians have it is also beneficial in cold environment!
Are you totally blind to skin colour of the two girls I posted above? Is the Inuit child dark brown as Indians or Africans? I wouldn't even call her brown, lol.
Your are confusing UV radiation with adaptation to cold big time! Skin colour is an adaptation to UV intensity. Adaptation to cold is a separate issue and happens on different genes, not on genes responsible for melanin. I never said it was adaptation to cold.

the inuit eskimos etc. are medium brown to light brown and have all brown or black eyes and hair so they are far from being albinos!
you got stuck on this albino thingy and it messes up your understanding of this issue.
The thing is that people of far north are light or medium brown and not dark brown or black. Do you see that they are lighter and not being albino? According to your hypothesis we should be able to find black tribe living in far north, but you can't find them. It means that your hypothesis is wrong.

they(eskimos etc) also get no skin cancer and rickets in comparison with us supposedly cold adapted whites so what is your poiint here, you disproved nothing..
Black people also have skin cancer and rickets too. Are they not adapted either?

to categorize nonwhites as whites will not help you to elevate the numbers of whites in the world, because neither latinos, nor asians nor ethiopians or arabs can be considered white "caucasians", neither of them have blondism and blue eyes (except their albinos)
You don't need to be caucasian to have lighter skin. Don't confuse lighter skin with caucasian. There are white people on this planet not being caucasians.
remote_image_86a5725b03.jpg

Will you call her brown because she is not caucasian?



blondism and red hair is found amongst albinos of all cultures and phenotypes and it is not a marker of some imaginary distinct race
You have racial or taxonomic problems.
I have the racial problem? When I say light skin, you think caucasian, but I don't.


man are you serious? thermal advantage of course proves and has to do with the fact that brown skinned indians living in 4000 meters high mountains are more cold resistant than whites which further proves white skin blue eyes and blonde hair are not an adaptation to cold but simply tyrosinase defect (oca1b) also called albinism type 2
Wow, they lived 4000 meter high, no wonder they had adaptation to cold. It explains why they are brown for protection from strong UV and with cold adaptations because of cold. Exactly like Tibetans. Easy to explain.

the chinese are not white, their complexion varies between yellowish brown and medium brown, and so is the complexion of mostly all asian people and siberian indians and eskimos and inuits! do not try to count them as blonde pinkish blue eyed(whites) just to hide we make up 8% of the world population because the rest has yellowish brown to dark brown skin and eyes!!!
Since when white people need to have light eyes and hair?! Isn't she white?
Michelle+Dockery+Short+Hairstyles+Bob+CFNOpP8fRfgl.jpg

And not albino.


I'm still waiting for the black tribe in higher latitudes, to prove your point. Keep searching.

Perhaps, you would like to explain, why in India only one in 100,000 is born with form of albinism, but in Europe everyone is born "albino"? Good theory can predict and explain related instances. Can yours?
 

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