No one in the Balkans sees Turkey as an "ally". I guarantee that the only reason Albania and Macedonia have any relations with them is because of mutual hostility towards Greece, but the Turks see Albanians and Macedonians as potential janissaries. Their only interest is in reconstructing the Ottoman Empire. I'm sure that Albania and Macedonia know this.
That is real "politic". I don't know what "mythology" you're talking about.
You are talking with me. So stop generalizing all the Albanians, and stop insulting others, and an entire nation. If you don't have a respect for me, please respect the forum. Do you have a basic of education.
1- There's not the Germany to gave money to albania, like they do with Greece. That's why Albania it's poor and Greece rich.
It is. This is exactly what Balkan people do to themselves. What surprises me is that they only notice how insulting their posts are when I move them here from other threads. When I move posts here, they immediately stop posting, they refuse to continue their insults here. I would gladly never see this thread anymore, but surprisingly it does a good job to stop fights.
Oh well, I guess no reply from LABERIA. That makes sense, though, since it usually seems to be a) provocative criticism or insult, b) lack of response to any argument then fleeing, and then c) repeat all over again.
It's quite nice that you think so highly of the Turks. Most of the Balkans, however, doesn't. You called what I said "mythology". I wasn't the one who claimed 500 years under the Ottoman yoke. The point is that they were the oppressors of Slavs, Greeks, and Albanians alike, and again, if you think highly of them that's quite nice. The intentions of Turkey, as confirmed by the statements of its officials as well as those of numerous Turks commenting on the internet, is to rebuild the Ottoman Empire. We want no part of this, and have no second thoughts about opposing all of their ambitions in our peninsula.
Here I'm going to disagree with you. Most Christian and atheist Albanians I've spoken with see Skanderbeg as their national hero- same for many of the Muslims- and view the Turks as oppressors. Jihadis from Kosovo and western Macedonia who wave Turkish flags don't represent Albanians. Even many Albanians who call themselves Muslims (most aren't very religious) put their religion aside when it comes to national affairs. Albanian nationalism is more important than any religious differences, which I find quite admirable. However, there is growing jihadism among Albanian Muslims, especially in Kosovo and western Macedonia (as I'm sure you're well aware). You would never see an Albanian woman from Albania wearing a hijab or tent like some in western Macedonia do. That being said, the majority of Albanians have a positive opinion of America, Israel, and the West. They also like Croatia, and there really is no love at all between Islamized Bosnia (Balija) and Albania.
How sickening that they use the name of the ancient Illyrian civilization in the name of Islamism.
Where do you read that i think highly of the Turks? Can you elaborate pls?
Do you read what i have posted here? Let me repeat because this probably can help you:
Feel free to ask me to repeat my post twice, but pls don`t put in my mouth words that i have never said. There is always an reason why a country is ally with another one. Going around in forums and speak about inexistent enemies, it`s just ridiculous.
Well, as Albanian i consider the Ottomans as the worst enemy in our history. But for the rest of Orthodox Balkanites,(except orthodox Albanians and few isolated cases) i continue to call them COLLABORATORS of the Ottomans. But again here i want to repeat my question that you didn`t answer to(seems that with you need to repeat twice) do you have any historical knowledge about this period of time?
And? We live in a free world. People are free to dream everything. Nations have their political and nationalistic agenda. This is very common in Balcan and not only. Just look this new Balcan country without a definitive name called FYROM. They pretend to be the descendats of Alexander The Great and they like to play with maps, including in this maps territory from neighbouring countries. The problem is not why Turkey has ambitions, because this is normal. The problem is the collaboration with their ambitions. And from history we know who collaborated with Ottomans for 500 years. I brought you an example from modern history. How many you want? Because we have to stop with this hypocrisy. The folktales related with the creation of a national identity are one thing and the reality is another.
First who are we? Second, try to have an clear vision of what happen. This time i will advice you to make an clear dinstiction between mythology and reality.
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