Alan
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My perception of linguistic groups is now being nudged back to periods that are too early for the lexicon, among the fringe.
And it feels so liberating.
Dare I say that I'm very close to making a bet that the Gravettians were the actual proto-proto IEs? They would speak some sort of a pre-farming Proto - Indocaucasoeuropean. This would be the UP root of IE and Caucasian with proto - Uralic arriving later. So basically Teal/CHG and WHG were early gravettians and later contact with proto - Uralic peoples resulted in ANE. (Mal'ta settlement was essentially Gravettian or very close to it IIRC). So you would have underlying genetic and linguistic relations from Karelia to at least the Caucuses through the LGM.
Indeed there are people now speculating that "ANE" is not a real component but a fusion of something CHG /WHG like with something nowadays found in Amerindians aka ancient Siberians. It looks more and more like Mal'ta is not really representing an ancestral population but is simply a "ghost or zombie" component hiding most of the CHG and WHG ancestry in South_Central Asians. Indeed some people say Yamna fits even better as a mixture of 2/3 CHG aka Teal and 1/3 WHG.
Makes me wonder if ANE is a real component. But there are also almost as much arguments for ANE being actually a real component and the affinity of CHG or EHG to it is basically shared ancestry.