How americandians in Okunevo culture survived during Afanasievo culture

[johen]

See the map. The direct descendants of Malta boy continued to live in Altai area from Okunevo to Altai people now thru Karashuk

http://www.nature.com/nature/journa...essage-global=remove&WT_ec_id=NATURE-20150611

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9988381

Intriguingly, individuals of the Bronze Age Okunevo culture from the Sayano-Altai region (Fig. 1) are related to present-day Native Americans (Extended Data Fig. 2d), which confirms previous craniometric studies30. This finding implies that Okunevo could represent a remnant population related to the Upper Palaeolithic Mal’ta hunter-gatherer population from Lake Baikal that contributed genetic material to Native Americans4.

The only two Siberian groups with an almost Amerindian combination are late third to early second millennium BC populations from Okunev and Sopka, southern Siberia. The multivariate analysis of five nonmetric facial traits and ten facial measurements in 15 cranial series reveals two independent tendencies. One of them shows a contrast between prehistoric Siberian Caucasoids and modern Siberian Mongoloids; the second one sets Amerindians apart from others.

Interestingly, in western Truvinian sample, the frequency of haplogroup R1a1a was considerably
lower than in the central sample. Based on the closeness of the Altai, which is populated by the representatives of a more Caucasoid SouthSiberian racial
type, it would be reasonable to expect the west–east decrease of the R1a1a frequency on the territory of Tuva. However, this was not observed, and the change of the haplogroup frequency was rather the opposite, as the eastern samples demonstrated maximum frequency of this haplogroup. At the first glance, the result obtained is paradoxical. Specifically, in terms of anthropology, the most Caucasoid population of the western parts of Tuva displays the minimum of haplogroup R1a1a, while in the most Mongoloid population of Todja, the maximum of this haplogroup is observed.

How come Malta descendants survived during Afanasievo and Androvono? Just Yamna descendants continually disappeared in Central Asia.

Another thing is David W Anthony’s saying in his book that Repin culture(3,700bc), skipping Botai culture, migrated to Afanasievo(3,500bc). 200y later the Repin started in Yamna(3,300bc).
Again yamna impacted upon coded ware, which was connected to Andronovo.
It looks like purzzle.

If Afanasievo and Andronovo people came from west steppe, they must kill all of americanindians related to Okunevo culture. And Botai would not allow repin to trespass their territory.

I think Hg R people in Afanasievo would be a source population among the steppe culture starting yamna.

 

[johen]

sorry, title of this thread is How americandians in Okunevo culture survived during Afanasievo culture

@administrator
pls change the title.

 

[Fire Haired14]

Great find. They definitely were not pure descendants of Mal'ta boy but had a higher amount of ancestry from Mal'ta boy's people than modern Siberians.

 

[LeBrok]

They were very private people.

Great find, it is amazing how similar they are to Mal'ta and survived for so long. Altai guys are not that drastically different either, though genetically farther away.

 

[bicicleur 2]

If I recall well some Q1a2-L56 were found in BA Altaï Karasuk culture.
These guys are related to Amerindians.
IMO Q1a1 survived LGM west of Lake Bajkal. Q1a2 however were people at Dyuktai cave 30 ka, near the Aldan river, way east in Siberia. They must have survived LGM somewhere further south near the Ochotsk Sea. There the branch of Amerindians split from the Karasuk guys. So these Karasuk came from the east.