Origin the Dravidians?

andresasj

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Dravidian people ancestry semitic people of the Indus Valey or african people?

I think the dravidians ancestry is the semitic/arab people because they can moved to India and adaptation the climate. They have longer hair and longer nose, for it i believe they ancestors are white people.
 
Since you are asking this in the Y-DNA section, I guess you mean paternal lineage wise.

According to Wikipedia, Indian Dravidians are:

32.9% H; local South Asian
26.7 % R1a; probably from Central Asia
19.7 % J; Middle East
13.6 % O; East and South East Asian
11.6 % L; local South Asian
9.3% F; basal Eurasian
6.2 % R2; local South Asian
2.3% G; Middle East
1.7% C; basal Eurasian
0.3 % Q; Siberia
0.3 % R1b; probably from Central Asia

If I combine by origine it gives:

50.7 % H + L + R2; local South Asia
27.3 % R1a +R1b + Q; probably from Central Asia and Siberia
22 % J + G; Middle East
13.6 % O; East and South East Asian
11 % C + F; basal Eurasian

It seems about half of their paternal lineage comes from their own original last glacial maximum core population. Dravidian Indians are mostly Indian. Then they absorb haplogroups from all around India, from East, North and West. Plus they still retain a good part of the original haplogroup of the first hunter-gatherers on the continent.
 
IMO Dravidians are H+F HG from the Indus valley who came in contact with R2+L+J farmers 9 ka and then expanded southward.
 
Winters (2008) argued that the Dravidians originated in Africa and initially migrated to Iran before they migrated further to the Indian subcontinent over 5,000 years ago. Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and J are likely to be introduced to the Indian subcontinent from Iran, given this migration route. Dravidian ethnic groups share genomic materials with Africans as well as Iranians and mtDNA haplogroup M is the most common mtDNA among Dravidian speakers. M is found exclusively in the Susa region in Iran, which is one of the oldest human settlements in the region. Dravidian speakers have African ancestral roots but around 50% of their Y-DNA heritage is West Eurasian, which their ancestors picked up in Iran. There is also a close relationship between the Dravidian and Elamite languages in ancient Iran.

Researchers have long speculated on the possibility of Dravidian speakers migrating through Iran to India. This view is supported by the presence of Indian haplogroups in Iran (Gonzalez et al. 2007), and the close relationship between the Dravidian and Elamite languages (McAlpin 1974, 1981). Eleven of Iran’s M haplogroups are found in India. In Iran hg M is found predominately in the Sussa region. Around 5% of Iranians carry the M haplogroup.

The most frequent Indian haplogoup in Iran is M3 (Metspula et al. 2004). Even though most molecular anthropologists believe the Dravidians originated in situ in India. The spread of common archaeological assemblages associated with the C-Group, genetically related languages and genes from Africa across Arabia and Iran into India support a recent expansion of Dravidian speaking people from Africa to India.

The archaeological and molecular evidence provides footprints of a recent hg M ancestral migration from Nubia to India. The existence of the L3a-M motif in the Senegambia characterized by the DdeI site np 10394 and AluI site np 10397 in haplotype AF24; the presence of the nucleotides characteristic of the Indian macrohaplogroup M in Africa and Arabia; and the reality that M1 does not descend from an Asian M macrohaplogroup (Sun et al. 2005) make a ‘back migration’ of M1 to Africa highly unlikely.

The presence of Indian M sequences in Africa, Arabia, Iran and Yemen (Gonzalez et al.. 2006) in conjunction with the linguistic (Aravanan 1976, 1979; Upadhyaya and Upadhyaya 1976, 1979), archaeological (Lal 1963; Lahovary 1963; Rao 1972) and anthropological (Nayar 1977; Sergent 1995; Sastri 1966) evidences suggest that the Dravidian speakers formerly lived in Nubia and migrated to India over 5000 years ago and the Indian M macrohaplogroups do not have an in situ origin.
 
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Winters (2008) argued that the Dravidians originated in Africa and initially migrated to Iran before they migrated further to the Indian subcontinent over the past 5,000 years. Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and J are likely to be introduced to the Indian subcontinent from Iran, given this migration route. Dravidian ethnic groups share genomic materials with Africans as well as Iranians and mtDNA haplogroup M is the most common mtDNA among Dravidian speakers. M is found exclusively in the Susa region in Iran, which is one of the oldest human settlements in the region. Dravidian speakers have African ancestral roots but around 50% of their Y-DNA heritage is West Eurasian, which their ancestors picked up in Iran. There is also a close relationship between the Dravidian and Elamite languages in ancient Iran.

I don't believe Dravidians have African genes because it does not look like Africans. Their hair is smooth and different skin. I believe came from the Middle East and the climate in the region as it is very hot, just changing the Dravidians doing they become similar to Australoids.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_peoples
The Chola Empire was one of the biggest maritime empires in medieval India, stretching from Southern India to Southeast Asiaincluding Philippines, Malaysia, Southern Thailand and Indonesia.[7] Medieval Tamil guilds and trading organizations like the "Ayyavole and Manigramam" played an important role in the Southeast Asia trade.[8] Traders and religious leaders travelled to Southeast Asia and played an important role in the cultural Indianisation of the region. Locally developed scripts such as Granthaand Pallava script induced the development of many native scripts such as Khmer, Javanese Kawi script, Baybayin, and Thai.
This may also indicate that coming from arabia Dravidians were intermingled with people near australóides.
 

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