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What the heck happened to European mtDNA?
There's been a decent sized collection of mtDNA from Germany and Hungary dating 5500-3500 BC for a few years now. I've known they had different haplogroup frequencies than anyone in modern Europe for a few years. That's just one region, for all we know no European's have EEF ancestry from that region.
Now though thanks to Once Upon a Time in the West there's a decent amount of mtDNA from Iberia dating to the same period. Iberians of that era had a similarly different frequency of haplogroups compared to modern Europeans as Central Europeans. This universal change wasn't due to migration, it was (probably)due to natural selection.
Here are Haplogroup frequencies from the new data given by Once Upon a Time in the West.
0% W, ~0% N1a1a. Combined they were at 10-15% in Neolithic Central Europe and Turkey. Lower frequency of T2b and higher frequency of K, H1, and H3 than Neolithic Central Europe and Turkey.
H(xH1, H3) was 3x less popular than in Spain today. Haplogroup K was 2x-3x more popular than in Spain today. Haplogroup T2 was more popular than in Spain today. 0% T1a, J1b1a1, N1a1b, H6, H2a1, H2a2b, U5a all of which are potentially Steppe lineages and combined at 10% in Spain today.
There's been a decent sized collection of mtDNA from Germany and Hungary dating 5500-3500 BC for a few years now. I've known they had different haplogroup frequencies than anyone in modern Europe for a few years. That's just one region, for all we know no European's have EEF ancestry from that region.
Now though thanks to Once Upon a Time in the West there's a decent amount of mtDNA from Iberia dating to the same period. Iberians of that era had a similarly different frequency of haplogroups compared to modern Europeans as Central Europeans. This universal change wasn't due to migration, it was (probably)due to natural selection.
Here are Haplogroup frequencies from the new data given by Once Upon a Time in the West.
Era | Neolithic | Chalcolithic+Bell Beaker | Chalcolithic(xBBC) | Bell Beaker | Bronze age |
N# | 86 | 123 | 92 | 31 | 28 |
K | 29(25) | 27.6(34) | 22(2) | 45.2(14) | 25(7) |
J | 10.5(9) | 14.6(18) | 15.2(14) | 13(4) | 10.7(3) |
T | 14(12) | 6.5(8) | 4.3(4) | 13(4) | 3.6(1) |
U5b | 15.1(13) | 13.8(17) | 12(11) | 19.4(6) | 14.3(4) |
U5a1 | 0 | 2.4(3) | 0 | 9.7(3) | 0 |
U4 | 2.3(2) | 2.4(3) | 2.2(2) | 3.2(1) | 0 |
U2e | 1.2(1) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
H1 | 7(6) | 13.8(17) | 14.1(13) | 13(4) | 25(7) |
H3 | 2.3(2) | 4.1(5) | 4.3(4) | 3.2(1) | 0 |
Other H | 3.5(3) | 9(11) | 9.8(4) | 6.4(2) | 10.7(3) |
HV0 | 5.8(5) | 6.5(8) | 7.6(7) | 3.2(1) | 10.7(3) |
X | 9.3(8) | 1.6(2) | 1(1) | 3.2(1) | 3.6(1) |
W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
I | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
N1a1a | 1.2(1) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
0% W, ~0% N1a1a. Combined they were at 10-15% in Neolithic Central Europe and Turkey. Lower frequency of T2b and higher frequency of K, H1, and H3 than Neolithic Central Europe and Turkey.
H(xH1, H3) was 3x less popular than in Spain today. Haplogroup K was 2x-3x more popular than in Spain today. Haplogroup T2 was more popular than in Spain today. 0% T1a, J1b1a1, N1a1b, H6, H2a1, H2a2b, U5a all of which are potentially Steppe lineages and combined at 10% in Spain today.