similarites between greek and albanian ??

[BalkanPower]

albanians and greeks are indigenous in the balkan. SO do there language show a bit of similarites ?

 

[Nik]

I've read they're grammatically very similar together with Romanian, which would make sense if we regard them as descendants of the palaeo-balkan languages besides the later Latinisation of Romanian. Even Bulgarian and Macedonian have become grammatically very close to the aforementioned languages despite arriving later with the Slavs.

Yet its quite interesting how distinct they are from each other despite living in close proximity for thousands of years.

Normally you find many many neighbouring languages around the world to belong to the same branch while Greek and Albanian are on separate branches, similar to the isolated Armenian.

But you'll have to wait for a German member who's name I cant recall with considerable knowledge on the matter.

P.s. Do some research on Balkan Sprachbund and you might find some answers.

 

[LAB]

Albanian and modern Greek have not many similarities
but Albanian and old. Greek especially Doric Greek have many similarities and common words that are not even found in modern Greek
ex.
alb. 'Dhe'
dor. gr ' Δα ' (dha)
new.gr ' Γη ' ( ji )
from what we know from Greek language the letter ' Δ 'was pronounced as the Albanian,Latin ' D ' in antiquity.

Babiniotis Lexicon.
∆, δ: δέλτα, το τέταρτο γράµµα τού ελληνικού αλφαβήτου. Ό∆σο γνωρίζουµε από τη φωνολογία τής Αρχαίας Ελληνικής, το γράµµα δαντιπροσώπευε ένα κλειστό οδοντικό σύµφωνο, το -ντ- (πβ. ξεν. d) και όχι το διαρκές οδοντικό σύµφωνο που προφέρουµε σήµερα. Η λ.δώρον, λ.χ., προφερόταν ως /ddòron/ και όχι ως /δότο)η)/, όπως συνέβαινε και µε την προφορά των β (ως -µπ-) και γ (ως -γκ-). Ωστόσο, ήδηστους χρόνους πριν από τον Χριστό, το δ άρχισε να προφέρεται ως διαρκές σύµφωνο µε τη σηµερινή προφορά. Στο συλλαβογραφικόαλφάβητο τής Γραµµικής γραφής Β (αντίθετα µε ό,τι ίσχυε για τα γράµµατα β και γ) ιδιαίτερο συλλαβόγραµµα δήλωνε το δ και άλλοσυλλαβόγραµµα τα τ και o από κοινού (στο κυπριακό συλλαβάριο και τα τρία οδοντικά τ - δ - o δηλώνονταν µε το ίδιο συλλαβόγραµµα).Μορφικά, το τριγωνικού σχήµατος ∆ τής ελληνικής γραφής στο λατινικό λεγόµενο αλφάβητο (που είναι, στην πραγµατικότητα, το δυτικόελληνικό αλφάβητο τής Χαλκίδας) έλαβε τη µορφή τού D, µε κύρτωση των δύο πλευρών τού τριγώνου. Τέλος, ως προς την ονοµασία τούγράµµατος, οι µελετητές τής ιστορίας τής ελληνικής γραφής συµφωνούν ότι προήλθε από το βορειο-σηµιτικό dâlet (ή dâleth), που σήµαινε«θύρα». Από το d-, το πρώτο γράµµα τού daleth, προήλθε ακροφωνικά ο συµφωνικός φθόγγος [d] (-ντ-).Ως προς την κατάληξη τού δέλτα, το-α (όπως στην περίπτωση των άλφ-α, βήτ-α και γάµµ-ά) είναι κατάληξη που προστέθηκε στην Ελληνική, στην οποία οι λέξεις δεν µπορούσαννα λήγουν σε -φ, σε -o κ.τ.ό.). ΣΧΟΛΙΟ λ. αλφάβητο, γραφή.

words of Byzantine Greek have also great similarities with Albanian
From the book of Aristeidis Kollias 'Language of Gods'. Athens 1989

Albanian
Byzantine Greek
New Greek

nem
nemesao
katarieme

anda
andha no
efharistisi

arë
arura
horafi

bashkë
vask ithi
porevume

dera
thira
porta

bukë
bekos
psomi

ai
ays, ata
autos

deti
thetis
thalassa

dhe,tokë
jea,dhor,dha
ji

edhe
idhe
qe

elbë
alfiton
krithari

enë
enimi
endymasia

errët
erevos
skotadhi

ethe
ethir
piretos

flas
flio,fliarae
milao,omilae

fryma
frimao
fisao,fisima

hedh
heo
rihno

heq,helkj
elko
travao

iki
iko
fevgo

kali
kelis-tos
alogo

kall,djeg
kileo
keo

korr
kiro
therizo

krua,kroi
krunos
vrisi

krye
krithen
qefali

lehem
leho
jenieme

lesh
lasios
malli

lig
ligios
adhinatos

loz
lizo
pezo

lutem
litome
parakalao

marr
marpto
perno

marrë
margos
trelos

me duket
dhokei mi
nomizo

mend
medhome
sqeftome

mëri,mëni
minis
thimos

mi
mis
pondiqi

mjeshtër
mistor
mastoras

mjet
mitos
nima

ndaj,daj
dheo
horizon

ne
noi
emis

nisem
nisome
kseqinao

nuk
ni uk
dhen

nuse
nisos
nifi

para
paros
ebros

për ty
par ti
ja esena

për hapa
apsh
piso

punë
ponos
dhulia

qas,kias
qio,kio
simono

qen
qion
sqilos

re
rea
sinefo

rrah
rahso
dherno

rri
e-ri-dhome
kathome

rroj,rronjë
ronio,ronimi
zo,akmazo

ruaj,rjotar
rrio,rritor
filaso

shkel
skelos
pato

shkop
skipton,skiptro
ravdos

sy,syri
o se, iris
mati

atë, i jati
ata, jetas
pateras

ter
ter so
stegnono

thërres
thireo
fonazo

torrë
tornoo
jiro

udhë
udhos
dhromos,odhos

vanë
van
pigan

vend
ved os
edhafos

verë
vear
kaloqeri

vesa
versi
dhrosos

vesh
ves this
forao

zien
zei
vrazi

mal
ta mala
para poli

etc,etc,etc

one of the best examples that proves that ancient Greek borrowed words from Illyrian-Albanian and not the opposite is the old.Greek word for the 'eye'
which is ' ΙΡΙΣ ' (IRIS)
according to many modern linguists people tend to pronounce words backwards and the word ' IRIS ' is the Albanian word ' SYRI ' backwards!
the root word in Albanian is ' SY ' (eye) and the -RI ending is the article so ' SY-RI ' (the-eye).
Albanian and Greek have different place for their articles, in Albanian are always as endings of the words, while in Greek are in front of the words

-'sy(RI)' <article in Alb. '' Sy, - Syri, - Sytë ''
-'( I ) iris ' < article in Greek. '' Ιρις, - Η Ιρις, - οι Ιριδες ''
-english '' Eye, - The Eye - The Eyes ''
that means the Greek word contains both the Albanian article -RI and that of the Greek language ' I '

 

[Yetos]

Albanian and modern Greek have not many similarities
but Albanian and old. Greek especially Doric Greek have many similarities and common words that are not even found in modern Greek
ex.
alb. 'Dhe'
dor. gr ' Δα ' (dha)
new.gr ' Γη ' ( ji )
from what we know from Greek language the letter ' Δ 'was pronounced as the Albanian,Latin ' D ' in antiquity.

Babiniotis Lexicon.
∆, δ: δέλτα, το τέταρτο γράµµα τού ελληνικού αλφαβήτου. Ό∆σο γνωρίζουµε από τη φωνολογία τής Αρχαίας Ελληνικής, το γράµµα δαντιπροσώπευε ένα κλειστό οδοντικό σύµφωνο, το -ντ- (πβ. ξεν. d) και όχι το διαρκές οδοντικό σύµφωνο που προφέρουµε σήµερα. Η λ.δώρον, λ.χ., προφερόταν ως /ddòron/ και όχι ως /δότο)η)/, όπως συνέβαινε και µε την προφορά των β (ως -µπ-) και γ (ως -γκ-). Ωστόσο, ήδηστους χρόνους πριν από τον Χριστό, το δ άρχισε να προφέρεται ως διαρκές σύµφωνο µε τη σηµερινή προφορά. Στο συλλαβογραφικόαλφάβητο τής Γραµµικής γραφής Β (αντίθετα µε ό,τι ίσχυε για τα γράµµατα β και γ) ιδιαίτερο συλλαβόγραµµα δήλωνε το δ και άλλοσυλλαβόγραµµα τα τ και o από κοινού (στο κυπριακό συλλαβάριο και τα τρία οδοντικά τ - δ - o δηλώνονταν µε το ίδιο συλλαβόγραµµα).Μορφικά, το τριγωνικού σχήµατος ∆ τής ελληνικής γραφής στο λατινικό λεγόµενο αλφάβητο (που είναι, στην πραγµατικότητα, το δυτικόελληνικό αλφάβητο τής Χαλκίδας) έλαβε τη µορφή τού D, µε κύρτωση των δύο πλευρών τού τριγώνου. Τέλος, ως προς την ονοµασία τούγράµµατος, οι µελετητές τής ιστορίας τής ελληνικής γραφής συµφωνούν ότι προήλθε από το βορειο-σηµιτικό dâlet (ή dâleth), που σήµαινε«θύρα». Από το d-, το πρώτο γράµµα τού daleth, προήλθε ακροφωνικά ο συµφωνικός φθόγγος [d] (-ντ-).Ως προς την κατάληξη τού δέλτα, το-α (όπως στην περίπτωση των άλφ-α, βήτ-α και γάµµ-ά) είναι κατάληξη που προστέθηκε στην Ελληνική, στην οποία οι λέξεις δεν µπορούσαννα λήγουν σε -φ, σε -o κ.τ.ό.). ΣΧΟΛΙΟ λ. αλφάβητο, γραφή.

words of Byzantine Greek have also great similarities with Albanian
From the book of Aristeidis Kollias 'Language of Gods'. Athens 1989

Albanian
Byzantine Greek
New Greek

nem
nemesao
katarieme

anda
andha no
efharistisi

arë
arura
horafi

bashkë
vask ithi
porevume

dera
thira
porta

bukë
bekos
psomi

ai
ays, ata
autos

deti
thetis
thalassa

dhe,tokë
jea,dhor,dha
ji

edhe
idhe
qe

elbë
alfiton
krithari

enë
enimi
endymasia

errët
erevos
skotadhi

ethe
ethir
piretos

flas
flio,fliarae
milao,omilae

fryma
frimao
fisao,fisima

hedh
heo
rihno

heq,helkj
elko
travao

iki
iko
fevgo

kali
kelis-tos
alogo

kall,djeg
kileo
keo

korr
kiro
therizo

krua,kroi
krunos
vrisi

krye
krithen
qefali

lehem
leho
jenieme

lesh
lasios
malli

lig
ligios
adhinatos

loz
lizo
pezo

lutem
litome
parakalao

marr
marpto
perno

marrë
margos
trelos

me duket
dhokei mi
nomizo

mend
medhome
sqeftome

mëri,mëni
minis
thimos

mi
mis
pondiqi

mjeshtër
mistor
mastoras

mjet
mitos
nima

ndaj,daj
dheo
horizon

ne
noi
emis

nisem
nisome
kseqinao

nuk
ni uk
dhen

nuse
nisos
nifi

para
paros
ebros

për ty
par ti
ja esena

për hapa
apsh
piso

punë
ponos
dhulia

qas,kias
qio,kio
simono

qen
qion
sqilos

re
rea
sinefo

rrah
rahso
dherno

rri
e-ri-dhome
kathome

rroj,rronjë
ronio,ronimi
zo,akmazo

ruaj,rjotar
rrio,rritor
filaso

shkel
skelos
pato

shkop
skipton,skiptro
ravdos

sy,syri
o se, iris
mati

atë, i jati
ata, jetas
pateras

ter
ter so
stegnono

thërres
thireo
fonazo

torrë
tornoo
jiro

udhë
udhos
dhromos,odhos

vanë
van
pigan

vend
ved os
edhafos

verë
vear
kaloqeri

vesa
versi
dhrosos

vesh
ves this
forao

zien
zei
vrazi

mal
ta mala
para poli

etc,etc,etc

one of the best examples that proves that ancient Greek borrowed words from Illyrian-Albanian and not the opposite is the old.Greek word for the 'eye'
which is ' ΙΡΙΣ ' (IRIS)
according to many modern linguists people tend to pronounce words backwards and the word ' IRIS ' is the Albanian word ' SYRI ' backwards!
the root word in Albanian is ' SY ' (eye) and the -RI ending is the article so ' SY-RI ' (the-eye).
Albanian and Greek have different place for their articles, in Albanian are always as endings of the words, while in Greek are in front of the words

-'sy(RI)' <article in Alb. '' Sy, - Syri, - Sytë ''
-'( I ) iris ' < article in Greek. '' Ιρις, - Η Ιρις, - οι Ιριδες ''
-english '' Eye, - The Eye - The Eyes ''
that means the Greek word contains both the Albanian article -RI and that of the Greek language ' I '

hahahah

The book of A Kollia is the most funny,

All over the world linguists laugh with his book,

He wanted to prove that Homer spoke Albanian,
and he proved that Albanians speak German,

Θυρ Homer
Dera Albanian like English Door, not even Celtic port
πορτα Latin import/loan to Greek (for inner doors) correct θυρα see θυρωρος θυροτηλεφωνο

Εως Ηως Ηomer
Dita Albanian like Day Dia etc etc


want more about Kollia?
the man was a jork, no one takes him seriously, except Albanian Ultra Nationalists, and those who were kidnapped by Alliens

And since you know Doric,
tell me how is language in Doric?

lets see more

sea
Homer Αλς Αλως Αλαττα/Αλασσα
Alb Deti
Greek Θαλαττα/Θαλασσα

not again the joke of Kollia

 

[Apsurdistan]

Genetically you're very similar yet you argue and bicker back and forth quite a lot, what gives?

 

[LeBrok]

Albanian and modern Greek have not many similarities
but Albanian and old. Greek especially Doric Greek have many similarities and common words that are not even found in modern Greek

Since when language makes all the culture. What about food, music, tools and common items, tradition, religion, gestures, cloths, farming and fishing, lifestyle, etc?

 

[LABERIA]

Since when language makes all the culture. What about food, music, tools and common items, tradition, religion, gestures, cloths, farming and fishing, lifestyle, etc?

Please not another flame war between Albanians and greeks. Also, there is the problem that after a long post, for sure will happen a glitch and everything will be lost.

 

[LAB]

hahahah

The book of A Kollia is the most funny,

All over the world linguists laugh with his book,

He wanted to prove that Homer spoke Albanian,
and he proved that Albanians speak German,

Θυρ Homer
Dera Albanian like English Door, not even Celtic port
πορτα Latin import/loan to Greek (for inner doors) correct θυρα see θυρωρος θυροτηλεφωνο

Εως Ηως Ηomer
Dita Albanian like Day Dia etc etc


want more about Kollia?
the man was a jork, no one takes him seriously, except Albanian Ultra Nationalists, and those who were kidnapped by Alliens

And since you know Doric,
tell me how is language in Doric?

lets see more

sea
Homer Αλς Αλως Αλαττα/Αλασσα
Alb Deti
Greek Θαλαττα/Θαλασσα

not again the joke of Kollia

I've never said that my claims are based only on Kollias,
Kollias was Greek of Arbereshe origin and he studied the similarities of our languages which is the topic of this thread, hence i mentioned him.
Like many others you just skip the words i brought and just replied with some sort of ''result'' that Albanian is in the same group with Germanic.
Kollias also mentioned that the etymology of the Greek letter ' Δ ' ΔΕΛΤΑ should not be related with anc.Hebrew because there is not a historical evidence that Hebrews lived in ancient Greece.
and I'm asking you -
'What kind of Civilisation is that to name the letter of it's own alphabet through a language that was spoken thousands of miles away, and there's no record of Hebrews in anc.Greece'?


You can see on my post above that Babiniotis explains the letter from the ancient Hebrew words, 'Dalet' or 'Daleth' which means 'exit','gate',
in Albanian we have the verb ' DAL ' (sprout,get out, turn up, appear, ETC,ETC)
(dal, del, dil ) - ( βγαινω - βγαινει - βγες )
and one of the many words that the verb produces is the word ' DALJE ' which means ' EXIT ' , 'GATE'
so now we shall expect 'all over the world linguists' to relate Albanian with ancient Hebrew, right?
we also find the Albanian verb 'Dal' in the words
'Δελ-φοί, αρχ.Δελφυς'
Delphi (/ˈdɛlfaɪ/ or /ˈdɛlfi/; Greek: Δελφοί, [ðelˈfi])[1] is famous as the ancient sanctuary that grew rich as the seat of the oracle that was consulted on important decisions throughout the ancient classical world. Moreover, it was considered as the navel (or centre) of the world by the Greeks as represented by the Omphalos.

'Δηλ-ος'
The island of Delos (/ˈdiːlɒs/; Greek: Δήλος [ˈðilos]; Attic: Δῆλος, Doric: Δᾶλος), near Mykonos, near the centre of the Cyclades archipelago, is one of the most important mythological, historical and archaeological sites in Greece. The excavations in the island are among the most extensive in the Mediterranean;


'Δελ-φίνι, αρχ.Δελφις'
Dolphin- mid-14c., from Old French daulphin, from Medieval Latin dolfinus, from Latin delphinus "dolphin," from Greek delphis (genitive delphinos) "dolphin," related to delphys "womb," perhaps via notion of the animal bearing live young, or from its shape, from PIE *gwelbh-. Popularly applied to the dorado from late 16c.

and since letter ' Δ ' in antiquity had the same sound as it has the Latin or Albanian ' D ' ,according to Babiniotis then the pronunciation of these Greek words i mentioned must have been the same as the verbs ' del,dal,dil ' ​ are in Albanian language today

If someone puts his nationalism aside he will easily understand that the toponym 'Delfys'(Delphi) and 'Delos' were given under the meaning of ' Showing up, Appear ' and that has to do with the Sun worship ,
that's why both in Delphi and Delos they worshipped god Apollo (Sun deity) more than anyone else.
while the word Dolphin (Delfis) had definitely to do with the way it swims, 'in - out '
unless Greeks in 1000 B.C and before that they had oceanologists to study marine life.. lol

 

[Apsurdistan]

Please not another flame war between Albanians and greeks. Also, there is the problem that after a long post, for sure will happen a glitch and everything will be lost.

Hahahahahahaahaa

 

[LATGAL]

Albanian and Greek share a decent amount of Indo-European lexical isoglosses. Albanian has had some influence from Greek, starting from ancient times already with a few specifically Northwest Greek loans and Greek has had some influence from Albanian, in late medieval and Ottoman times. Neither is that significant and Albanian in particular has been much more strongly influenced by Latin.

As Nik mentioned already, they're both members of the Balkan sprachbund (wiki has an article on that) alongside other Balkan languages so they have some grammatical features in common.

What LAB posted is mostly confused if not outright pseudo-etymological and ignores Greek contact with Phoenicians, as well.

 

[LAB]

Albanian and Greek share a decent amount of Indo-European lexical isoglosses. Albanian has had some influence from Greek, starting from ancient times already with a few specifically Northwest Greek loans and Greek has had some influence from Albanian, in late medieval and Ottoman times. Neither is that significant and Albanian in particular has been much more strongly influenced by Latin.

As Nik mentioned already, they're both members of the Balkan sprachbund (wiki has an article on that) alongside other Balkan languages so they have some grammatical features in common.

What LAB posted is mostly confused if not outright pseudo-etymological and ignores Greek contact with Phoenicians, as well.

Last week thanks to Graecopithicus we've seen that eventually there is a possibility the human race developed in Balkans and not in Africa,
I think it's exactly the same with languages, soon or later the world will understand more about the language evolution not because of a tremendous archaeological discovery, but because they will change the way they approach languages, and in our case
the way you and many others approach Albanian language.
I speak Albanian language and also i speak Greek, and it is so clear for me to see the truth, which in your ears comes as ''nationalism''

You say that Greeks had contact with Phoenicians,
While through Albanian language and the letters it includes we can understand that alphabets created from the movement of the sun,

Albanian language has around 785 monosyllabic words, while Greek has only 9
Albanian language has 7 vowels (a,e,ë,h,i,o,y)
while Greek and most IE languages have 5 (a,e,i,o,u*)
in fact Greek alphabet for a strange reason has 7 vowel-letters but the pronunciation of ( η , ι , υ ) is the same ' iiiii ' and also ( o , ω ) is 'ooo' so 3 letters for the sound ' iiii ' and 2 letters for the sound ' ooo ' ,
why did they create more than one letter for the same sound? it's nonsense.
unless if the original sound of those letters has been lost.

in Albanian language 1 vowel and 1 consonant can give words, hence why there are so many short words in it.
i mentioned earlier an example with the word 'Sy' and how it became ' Ιρις' in Greek
the root word is made from just 1 vowel and 1 consonant S + Y > SY (eye)
adding the article to it we have ' Syri ' (the eye)
in Greek language it became ' Iris ', which is the original word+article backwards and it's not pseudo-etymology because the examples are many, while in Greek language there are not any proper etymologies.

Ι said earlier that Albanian must get a different approach for studying it properly and this is the best example at least for me,

GR. Ακρο ουδ.
New Latin acro- (“pointed, first, high”) (from Ancient Greek ἄκρος (ákros, “highest, at the extremity”))
Origin of acro- Expand
< Greek, combining form of ákros topmost, highest; akin to Latin ācer sharp. Cf. acme, ear2

το τελευταίο σημείο, το έσχατο, το ακραίο σημείο
μη με οδηγείς στα άκρα (σε σημείο που υπερβαίνει τα όρια της υπομονής μου)
ένα από τα τέσσερα ακραία μέλη του σώματος, δηλαδή τα χέρια ή τα πόδια

τραυματίσθηκε σοβαρά στα κάτω άκρα

ALB. Krah
Pronunciation[ kɾa ]
From Proto-Albanian *krau, intermediate *krosko (*-sko- > h), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱreh2u-,*ḱruh2- 'limb' (compare Latin crus (“limb”))[1], or from Proto-Indo-European *kroh₁-, full-grade of the root *kreh₁- (“to sieve, separate”), hence Proto-Slavic *krajь 'end, region'.

AKR-o - vs - KRA-h
The word in Greek as we know has several meanings, 'arms' and ' legs 'are called ' Ακρα'
in Albanian we have the same meaning more or less for the word ' Krah '
and we can suggest that one of the 2 is an anagram of the other one, just like the word i mentioned earlier.
the way to prove that Albanian has the original word is again unique and no other languages can get similar approach.

-this is the Phaistos disc
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2212036/images/o-PHAISTOS-DISC-facebook.jpg

-And this is a symbol from the disc that shows a 'man walking' or the 'human body'
http://prntscr.com/fcn82i

letters are the evolution of symbols,
so we can be 99.9% sure that the symbol of the human body is represented from the modern letter ' K '
the shape of this symbol (human body) and letter ' K ' are matching, not difficult to understand.
the only thing it's missing, it's the link, which i call Albanian language.

Basic body parts in Albanian
-Kokë or Krye
-Qafë [Kiafë] ( k > q, as it does in some old inscriptions..)
-Kafkë
-Krah
-Kurriz
-Kraharor
-Kërbishti
-Kockë
-Kar
-Kofshë
-Këmbë
-Kërci
-Kyç

Same body parts in Greek
-Κεφαλη
-Σβερκος
-Κρανιο
-Ακρο
-Πλατη
-Στηθος
-Κοκκυξ
-Κοκκαλο
-Πεος
-Μπουτι
-Ποδι
-Κνημη
-Κλειδα
Same body parts in English
-Head
-Neck
-Skull
-Arm
-Back
-Chest k>c ?
-Coccyx k>c ?
-Bone
-Penis
-Thigh
-Leg
-Shin
-Clavicle k>c ?

If we make a timetable with the symbol on the Phaistos disc on one end and English language on the other end as the newest language among the 3, Albanian is the only language that preserves the words in their ancient form, because it CANNOT be a coincidence that all the basic body parts in Albanian start with ' K ' , while in Greek only the half and in English NONE.
So you might reconsider the theories that want all languages to have changed during times, and when you do that you will be able to accept the translation through Albanian language of ancient inscriptions that so far have no proper translations through other I.E languages.

And if you want to put Phoenicians in the game as well, we know that the word for the ' Hand ' in Phoenician language was ' KHAP '
https://prnt.sc/fcpj9n
in Albanian ' KAP ' means ' Catch ' (lat. capere) so one more word starting with ' K ' and supporting our theory.
The word for the hand in Albanian starts with ' D ' ' Dorë '
the ancient Egyptian hieroglyph for the letter ' D ' was symbolised with a 'hand'
http://prntscr.com/fcppfn

so i'm asking you..
which language has borrowed words and which is that, that has the original Proto.I.E words ?
why 'kap' comes from 'capere' and not the opposite?
the linguists you're based on say that Albanian has 90% of it's words borrowed from Latin,
why to me sounds nonsense ? since we have plenty of examples as the one above.

 

[LABERIA]

Last week thanks to Graecopithicus we've seen that eventually there is a possibility the human race developed in Balkans and not in Africa,
I think it's exactly the same with languages, soon or later the world will understand more about the language evolution not because of a tremendous archaeological discovery, but because they will change the way they approach languages, and in our case
the way you and many others approach Albanian language.
I speak Albanian language and also i speak Greek, and it is so clear for me to see the truth, which in your ears comes as ''nationalism''

You say that Greeks had contact with Phoenicians,
While through Albanian language and the letters it includes we can understand that alphabets created from the movement of the sun,

Albanian language has around 785 monosyllabic words, while Greek has only 9
Albanian language has 7 vowels (a,e,ë,h,i,o,y)
while Greek and most IE languages have 5 (a,e,i,o,u*)
in fact Greek alphabet for a strange reason has 7 vowel-letters but the pronunciation of ( η , ι , υ ) is the same ' iiiii ' and also ( o , ω ) is 'ooo' so 3 letters for the sound ' iiii ' and 2 letters for the sound ' ooo ' ,
why did they create more than one letter for the same sound? it's nonsense.
unless if the original sound of those letters has been lost.

in Albanian language 1 vowel and 1 consonant can give words, hence why there are so many short words in it.
i mentioned earlier an example with the word 'Sy' and how it became ' Ιρις' in Greek
the root word is made from just 1 vowel and 1 consonant S + Y > SY (eye)
adding the article to it we have ' Syri ' (the eye)
in Greek language it became ' Iris ', which is the original word+article backwards and it's not pseudo-etymology because the examples are many, while in Greek language there are not any proper etymologies.

Ι said earlier that Albanian must get a different approach for studying it properly and this is the best example at least for me,

GR. Ακρο ουδ.
New Latin acro- (“pointed, first, high”) (from Ancient Greek ἄκρος (ákros, “highest, at the extremity”))
Origin of acro- Expand
< Greek, combining form of ákros topmost, highest; akin to Latin ācer sharp. Cf. acme, ear2

το τελευταίο σημείο, το έσχατο, το ακραίο σημείο
μη με οδηγείς στα άκρα (σε σημείο που υπερβαίνει τα όρια της υπομονής μου)
ένα από τα τέσσερα ακραία μέλη του σώματος, δηλαδή τα χέρια ή τα πόδια

τραυματίσθηκε σοβαρά στα κάτω άκρα

ALB. Krah
Pronunciation[ kɾa ]
From Proto-Albanian *krau, intermediate *krosko (*-sko- > h), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱreh2u-,*ḱruh2- 'limb' (compare Latin crus (“limb”))[1], or from Proto-Indo-European *kroh₁-, full-grade of the root *kreh₁- (“to sieve, separate”), hence Proto-Slavic *krajь 'end, region'.

AKR-o - vs - KRA-h
The word in Greek as we know has several meanings, 'arms' and ' legs 'are called ' Ακρα'
in Albanian we have the same meaning more or less for the word ' Krah '
and we can suggest that one of the 2 is an anagram of the other one, just like the word i mentioned earlier.
the way to prove that Albanian has the original word is again unique and no other languages can get similar approach.

-this is the Phaistos disc
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2212036/images/o-PHAISTOS-DISC-facebook.jpg

-And this is a symbol from the disc that shows a 'man walking' or the 'human body'
http://prntscr.com/fcn82i

letters are the evolution of symbols,
so we can be 99.9% sure that the symbol of the human body is represented from the modern letter ' K '
the shape of this symbol (human body) and letter ' K ' are matching, not difficult to understand.
the only thing it's missing, it's the link, which i call Albanian language.

Basic body parts in Albanian
-Kokë or Krye
-Qafë [Kiafë] ( k > q, as it does in some old inscriptions..)
-Kafkë
-Krah
-Kurriz
-Kraharor
-Kërbishti
-Kockë
-Kar
-Kofshë
-Këmbë
-Kërci
-Kyç

Same body parts in Greek
-Κεφαλη
-Σβερκος
-Κρανιο
-Ακρο
-Πλατη
-Στηθος
-Κοκκυξ
-Κοκκαλο
-Πεος
-Μπουτι
-Ποδι
-Κνημη
-Κλειδα
Same body parts in English
-Head
-Neck
-Skull
-Arm
-Back
-Chest k>c ?
-Coccyx k>c ?
-Bone
-Penis
-Thigh
-Leg
-Shin
-Clavicle k>c ?

If we make a timetable with the symbol on the Phaistos disc on one end and English language on the other end as the newest language among the 3, Albanian is the only language that preserves the words in their ancient form, because it CANNOT be a coincidence that all the basic body parts in Albanian start with ' K ' , while in Greek only the half and in English NONE.
So you might reconsider the theories that want all languages to have changed during times, and when you do that you will be able to accept the translation through Albanian language of ancient inscriptions that so far have no proper translations through other I.E languages.

And if you want to put Phoenicians in the game as well, we know that the word for the ' Hand ' in Phoenician language was ' KHAP '
https://prnt.sc/fcpj9n
in Albanian ' KAP ' means ' Catch ' (lat. capere) so one more word starting with ' K ' and supporting our theory.
The word for the hand in Albanian starts with ' D ' ' Dorë '
the ancient Egyptian hieroglyph for the letter ' D ' was symbolised with a 'hand'
http://prntscr.com/fcppfn

so i'm asking you..
which language has borrowed words and which is that, that has the original Proto.I.E words ?
why 'kap' comes from 'capere' and not the opposite?
the linguists you're based on say that Albanian has 90% of it's words borrowed from Latin,
why to me sounds nonsense ? since we have plenty of examples as the one above.

Excuse me, this is your personal opinion or you have read some author?

 

[Yetos]

Last week thanks to Graecopithicus we've seen that eventually there is a possibility the human race developed in Balkans and not in Africa,
I think it's exactly the same with languages, soon or later the world will understand more about the language evolution not because of a tremendous archaeological discovery, but because they will change the way they approach languages, and in our case
the way you and many others approach Albanian language.
I speak Albanian language and also i speak Greek, and it is so clear for me to see the truth, which in your ears comes as ''nationalism''

You say that Greeks had contact with Phoenicians,
While through Albanian language and the letters it includes we can understand that alphabets created from the movement of the sun,

Albanian language has around 785 monosyllabic words, while Greek has only 9
Albanian language has 7 vowels (a,e,ë,h,i,o,y)
while Greek and most IE languages have 5 (a,e,i,o,u*)
in fact Greek alphabet for a strange reason has 7 vowel-letters but the pronunciation of ( η , ι , υ ) is the same ' iiiii ' and also ( o , ω ) is 'ooo' so 3 letters for the sound ' iiii ' and 2 letters for the sound ' ooo ' ,
why did they create more than one letter for the same sound? it's nonsense.
unless if the original sound of those letters has been lost.

in Albanian language 1 vowel and 1 consonant can give words, hence why there are so many short words in it.
i mentioned earlier an example with the word 'Sy' and how it became ' Ιρις' in Greek
the root word is made from just 1 vowel and 1 consonant S + Y > SY (eye)
adding the article to it we have ' Syri ' (the eye)
in Greek language it became ' Iris ', which is the original word+article backwards and it's not pseudo-etymology because the examples are many, while in Greek language there are not any proper etymologies.

Ι said earlier that Albanian must get a different approach for studying it properly and this is the best example at least for me,

GR. Ακρο ουδ.
New Latin acro- (“pointed, first, high”) (from Ancient Greek ἄκρος (ákros, “highest, at the extremity”))
Origin of acro- Expand
< Greek, combining form of ákros topmost, highest; akin to Latin ācer sharp. Cf. acme, ear2

το τελευταίο σημείο, το έσχατο, το ακραίο σημείο
μη με οδηγείς στα άκρα (σε σημείο που υπερβαίνει τα όρια της υπομονής μου)
ένα από τα τέσσερα ακραία μέλη του σώματος, δηλαδή τα χέρια ή τα πόδια

τραυματίσθηκε σοβαρά στα κάτω άκρα

ALB. Krah
Pronunciation[ kɾa ]
From Proto-Albanian *krau, intermediate *krosko (*-sko- > h), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱreh2u-,*ḱruh2- 'limb' (compare Latin crus (“limb”))[1], or from Proto-Indo-European *kroh₁-, full-grade of the root *kreh₁- (“to sieve, separate”), hence Proto-Slavic *krajь 'end, region'.

AKR-o - vs - KRA-h
The word in Greek as we know has several meanings, 'arms' and ' legs 'are called ' Ακρα'
in Albanian we have the same meaning more or less for the word ' Krah '
and we can suggest that one of the 2 is an anagram of the other one, just like the word i mentioned earlier.
the way to prove that Albanian has the original word is again unique and no other languages can get similar approach.

-this is the Phaistos disc
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2212036/images/o-PHAISTOS-DISC-facebook.jpg

-And this is a symbol from the disc that shows a 'man walking' or the 'human body'
http://prntscr.com/fcn82i

letters are the evolution of symbols,
so we can be 99.9% sure that the symbol of the human body is represented from the modern letter ' K '
the shape of this symbol (human body) and letter ' K ' are matching, not difficult to understand.
the only thing it's missing, it's the link, which i call Albanian language.

Basic body parts in Albanian
-Kokë or Krye
-Qafë [Kiafë] ( k > q, as it does in some old inscriptions..)
-Kafkë
-Krah
-Kurriz
-Kraharor
-Kërbishti
-Kockë
-Kar
-Kofshë
-Këmbë
-Kërci
-Kyç

Same body parts in Greek
-Κεφαλη
-Σβερκος
-Κρανιο
-Ακρο
-Πλατη
-Στηθος
-Κοκκυξ
-Κοκκαλο
-Πεος
-Μπουτι
-Ποδι
-Κνημη
-Κλειδα
Same body parts in English
-Head
-Neck
-Skull
-Arm
-Back
-Chest k>c ?
-Coccyx k>c ?
-Bone
-Penis
-Thigh
-Leg
-Shin
-Clavicle k>c ?

If we make a timetable with the symbol on the Phaistos disc on one end and English language on the other end as the newest language among the 3, Albanian is the only language that preserves the words in their ancient form, because it CANNOT be a coincidence that all the basic body parts in Albanian start with ' K ' , while in Greek only the half and in English NONE.
So you might reconsider the theories that want all languages to have changed during times, and when you do that you will be able to accept the translation through Albanian language of ancient inscriptions that so far have no proper translations through other I.E languages.

And if you want to put Phoenicians in the game as well, we know that the word for the ' Hand ' in Phoenician language was ' KHAP '
https://prnt.sc/fcpj9n
in Albanian ' KAP ' means ' Catch ' (lat. capere) so one more word starting with ' K ' and supporting our theory.
The word for the hand in Albanian starts with ' D ' ' Dorë '
the ancient Egyptian hieroglyph for the letter ' D ' was symbolised with a 'hand'
http://prntscr.com/fcppfn

so i'm asking you..
which language has borrowed words and which is that, that has the original Proto.I.E words ?
why 'kap' comes from 'capere' and not the opposite?
the linguists you're based on say that Albanian has 90% of it's words borrowed from Latin,
why to me sounds nonsense ? since we have plenty of examples as the one above.

LAB plz
modern urban Greek sprunk from Thracian idiom uses 5 vowels,
in country side we use more.
and correct Greek has 7+2+5 vowels including dipthongs and long trill alveovars (liguids)
so your mention that Greek has 5 vowels
is clear that is from guys that go to late night shows and say about alliens,
stop reading Kollia,
his work is worthy only as a deposit, a tank, nothing more

do not play the game of kruaz and χαραζω-γραφω- κρουω
is not scientific,

just notice this,
North IE D turns to south IE Θ in Greek
its a rule,
so Dera and Θυρα show clearly that both have nothing to do with each other
also Deti and Θετις and Als, the Homer writes 'παρα Θιν' Αλος'
as also Alb Dita Slav Dan

I know from where you took these you are posting,
I do not want you to believe me,
but ask other non Greek non Albanian to tell you how wrong it is

as for ακρο and krah first find the word ακις-ακιδος

PS
there was a book based on Kollia, saying that Albanian was mother of Homeric and all IE languages
all these are from this book
before you read it, I suggest ask a non Greek and a non Albanian how serious it is,

as for Greacopithecus it is a significant discovery,
but still not taxated clearly as hominid or as ape.
and we do not know if it survived to evolute to human.
more findings and if it possible genetics will show

 

[LAB]

LAB plz
modern urban Greek sprunk from Thracian idiom uses 5 vowels,
in country side we use more.
and correct Greek has 7+2+5 vowels including dipthongs and long trill alveovars (liguids)
so your mention that Greek has 5 vowels
is clear that is from guys that go to late night shows and say about alliens,
stop reading Kollia,
his work is worthy only as a deposit, a tank, nothing more

do not play the game of kruaz and χαραζω-γραφω- κρουω
is not scientific,

just notice this,
North IE D turns to south IE Θ in Greek
its a rule,
so Dera and Θυρα show clearly that both have nothing to do with each other
also Deti and Θετις and Als, the Homer writes 'παρα Θιν' Αλος'
as also Alb Dita Slav Dan

I know from where you took these you are posting,
I do not want you to believe me,
but ask other non Greek non Albanian to tell you how wrong it is

as for ακρο and krah first find the word ακις-ακιδος

PS
there was a book based on Kollia, saying that Albanian was mother of Homeric and all IE languages
all these are from this book
before you read it, I suggest ask a non Greek and a non Albanian how serious it is,

as for Greacopithecus it is a significant discovery,
but still not taxated clearly as hominid or as ape.
and we do not know if it survived to evolute to human.
more findings and if it possible genetics will show

Ok dude, let's make a proper dialogue better instead of monologues
First of all, honestly i've never read books of Kollias, the book he wrote 'Language of Gods' i can understand it explains the names of the gods from the Pelasgian mythology, but i don't need to read his book to understand them so... haha
but anyways, i just used these words to compare Albanian-byzantine Gr.-new Greek
so you're saying that my approach it's not scientific,
but after that you're saying that 'Homer writes'
you do know that the texts of Homeric poems are dating from 11th century A.D yeh?
what Homer wrote originally we will never find out.
the oldest piece from Homer's poems is from 3rd century B.C, and it's only a small part of Iliad, and of course even that it's not the original one.
both works from him are written and re-written and re-written again and again, and the oldest completed ones we have are from
11th century A.D(Byzantine)
hence, whoever wants to make a 'scientific approach' doesn't says 'Homer writes' but he calls them 'Byzantine Greek'

Apart from Kollias of course there are many books saying that Albanian is the mother of I.E languages,
here's one more which i'm reading at the moment.
Z. MAYANI, Les Etrusques commencent a parler, Collections signes de temps, 11 [Paris, 1961],
who argues for Albanian as the 'root' tongue

'akro' from 'akis' does not convince anyone since there's the Albanian word 'Krah' with the same meaning and it starts with 'K' for a reason that i explained very well, saying only 'akro' from 'akis' sounds like a suggestion or a theory, while my suggestion that 'akro' is an anagram of 'krah' stands better if we want to be logic of course and leave our national pride aside.

As I've said Albanian should get a different approach because it's a language that has it's words categorised relatively with their meaning,
the human body parts are categorised for the simple reason that you cannot deny, the man of 2000 b.c and beyond had not such a developed brain as we have today, so categorising words according with their meaning was a way of memorising them easier.

Albanian language has around 45,000 - 50,000 words if i'm right
Greek gathered all together the words has around 170,000 and around 10,000 of them were created from Babiniotis.

But such a big difference between the 2 languages and Albanian has more vowels and more consonants than Greek.

Because Greek has 5 vowels and not 7, you have 7 letter-vowels but the sound you pronounce the ( η , ι , υ) is exactly the same, ' iiiii '
and the same is the sound for the letters ( ο , ω ) ' oooo '

Vowels of Greek language
A Pronounced like ''apple'' and ''father''. -------->1
E Pronounced like ''elk'' or ''tent''.----------------->2
H Pronounced like ''eel'' or ''feet''. --------------->3
I Pronounced the same as ' H '
O Pronounced like "hope" and "hop'' ------------>4
Y Pronounced the same as ' H ' and ' I '.
Ω Pronounced the same as ' O '.
Ου* Pronounced like ''group'' or ''look'' --------->5

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Greek_vowels

As you can read on that link the original sound of the letters has been lost in modern Greek,
so ancient Greeks created an alphabet with 7 vowels, and Albanian language today has also 7 vowels.
Maybe that's why Z.Kopidakis on his book 'The history of Greek language'' says that
''Greek was based on a brunch of another I.E language''
something like this maybe..
http://www.mpi.nl/news/TreeoflanguagefamiliesMichaelDunnScience.jpg
http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/images/sn-languages672H.jpg


Vowels of Albanian language
Α Pronounced like ''father'', Spanish ''casa'' ------->1
E Pronounced like ''bed'' ------------------------------>2
Ë Pronounced like ''about'', ''the'' -------------------->3
I Pronounced like ''seed'' ------------------------------>4
O Pronounced like ''law'' ------------------------------>5
Y Pronounced like French ''tu'', German ''über''----->6
U Pronounced like ''boot''------------------------------->7




Let's see how Albanian language uses it's vowels on the monosyllabic root-words
A - Ι -------------'εκεινος,αυτος' > in ancient Greece was 'Αυς' pronounced ' AIS ' (see below)
AJ - Ο ------------'εκεινη,αυτη'
AT - A ----------- 'εκεινοι,αυτοι' > possible word of the Tarantinians ' ATA ' ? ( -//- )
AT - 'j'E ----------'εκει'
AT - Ë ​------------'εκεινον,αυτον'
AT - I 'j' ---------'εκεινου,αυτουνου'
AT - Y ------------' εκει '

the Greek word 'Αυτος' in ancient Greece.

ΑΥΤΟΝ. Επλανήθην, όταν έλεγα ****) ότι η λέξις παράγεται από το Αυς, αυτός το Αυτός τούτο του Ησυχίου δεν είναι γενική του Αυς, αλλ' ή αναφορική αντωνυμία. Αυτός, την οποίαντινές του δωρικού γένους επρόφεραν.Αυς. Το Αυτίον είναι από το Ωτίον, κατά τροπήν (δωρικήν και ταύτην) του Ω εις την ΑΥ δίφθογγου, ώς έλεγαν και Σαντορία αντί του Σωτηρία Β). Οι Ταραντίνο, το έτρεπαν εις μόνον το Α. «Ατα, ώτα, Ταραντίνοι», λέγει ο Ησύχιος όθεν ακολούθως και, "Αντίον, το υποκοριτικόν. Ούτως έγραφαν και Πράτος αντί του Πρώτος.


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...UAhVHBsAKHSZiCx0Q6AEIJDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Yetos]

Ok dude, let's make a proper dialogue better instead of monologues
First of all, honestly i've never read books of Kollias, the book he wrote 'Language of Gods' i can understand it explains the names of the gods from the Pelasgian mythology, but i don't need to read his book to understand them so... haha
but anyways, i just used these words to compare Albanian-byzantine Gr.-new Greek
so you're saying that my approach it's not scientific,
but after that you're saying that 'Homer writes'
you do know that the texts of Homeric poems are dating from 11th century A.D yeh?
what Homer wrote originally we will never find out.
the oldest piece from Homer's poems is from 3rd century B.C, and it's only a small part of Iliad, and of course even that it's not the original one.
both works from him are written and re-written and re-written again and again, and the oldest completed ones we have are from
11th century A.D(Byzantine)
hence, whoever wants to make a 'scientific approach' doesn't says 'Homer writes' but he calls them 'Byzantine Greek'

Apart from Kollias of course there are many books saying that Albanian is the mother of I.E languages,
here's one more which i'm reading at the moment.
Z. MAYANI, Les Etrusques commencent a parler, Collections signes de temps, 11 [Paris, 1961],
who argues for Albanian as the 'root' tongue

'akro' from 'akis' does not convince anyone since there's the Albanian word 'Krah' with the same meaning and it starts with 'K' for a reason that i explained very well, saying only 'akro' from 'akis' sounds like a suggestion or a theory, while my suggestion that 'akro' is an anagram of 'krah' stands better if we want to be logic of course and leave our national pride aside.

As I've said Albanian should get a different approach because it's a language that has it's words categorised relatively with their meaning,
the human body parts are categorised for the simple reason that you cannot deny, the man of 2000 b.c and beyond had not such a developed brain as we have today, so categorising words according with their meaning was a way of memorising them easier.

Albanian language has around 45,000 - 50,000 words if i'm right
Greek gathered all together the words has around 170,000 and around 10,000 of them were created from Babiniotis.

But such a big difference between the 2 languages and Albanian has more vowels and more consonants than Greek.

Because Greek has 5 vowels and not 7, you have 7 letter-vowels but the sound you pronounce the ( η , ι , υ) is exactly the same, ' iiiii '
and the same is the sound for the letters ( ο , ω ) ' oooo '

Vowels of Greek language
A Pronounced like ''apple'' and ''father''. -------->1
E Pronounced like ''elk'' or ''tent''.----------------->2
H Pronounced like ''eel'' or ''feet''. --------------->3
I Pronounced the same as ' H '
O Pronounced like "hope" and "hop'' ------------>4
Y Pronounced the same as ' H ' and ' I '.
Ω Pronounced the same as ' O '.
Ου* Pronounced like ''group'' or ''look'' --------->5

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Greek_vowels

As you can read on that link the original sound of the letters has been lost in modern Greek,
so ancient Greeks created an alphabet with 7 vowels, and Albanian language today has also 7 vowels.
Maybe that's why Z.Kopidakis on his book 'The history of Greek language'' says that
''Greek was based on a brunch of another I.E language''
something like this maybe..
http://www.mpi.nl/news/TreeoflanguagefamiliesMichaelDunnScience.jpg
http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/images/sn-languages672H.jpg


Vowels of Albanian language
Α Pronounced like ''father'', Spanish ''casa'' ------->1
E Pronounced like ''bed'' ------------------------------>2
Ë Pronounced like ''about'', ''the'' -------------------->3
I Pronounced like ''seed'' ------------------------------>4
O Pronounced like ''law'' ------------------------------>5
Y Pronounced like French ''tu'', German ''über''----->6
U Pronounced like ''boot''------------------------------->7




Let's see how Albanian language uses it's vowels on the monosyllabic root-words
A - Ι -------------'εκεινος,αυτος' > in ancient Greece was 'Αυς' pronounced ' AIS ' (see below)
AJ - Ο ------------'εκεινη,αυτη'
AT - A ----------- 'εκεινοι,αυτοι' > possible word of the Tarantinians ' ATA ' ? ( -//- )
AT - 'j'E ----------'εκει'
AT - Ë ​------------'εκεινον,αυτον'
AT - I 'j' ---------'εκεινου,αυτουνου'
AT - Y ------------' εκει '

the Greek word 'Αυτος' in ancient Greece.

ΑΥΤΟΝ. Επλανήθην, όταν έλεγα ****) ότι η λέξις παράγεται από το Αυς, αυτός το Αυτός τούτο του Ησυχίου δεν είναι γενική του Αυς, αλλ' ή αναφορική αντωνυμία. Αυτός, την οποίαντινές του δωρικού γένους επρόφεραν.Αυς. Το Αυτίον είναι από το Ωτίον, κατά τροπήν (δωρικήν και ταύτην) του Ω εις την ΑΥ δίφθογγου, ώς έλεγαν και Σαντορία αντί του Σωτηρία Β). Οι Ταραντίνο, το έτρεπαν εις μόνον το Α. «Ατα, ώτα, Ταραντίνοι», λέγει ο Ησύχιος όθεν ακολούθως και, "Αντίον, το υποκοριτικόν. Ούτως έγραφαν και Πράτος αντί του Πρώτος.


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...UAhVHBsAKHSZiCx0Q6AEIJDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

ok dude
I had enough,
all these are from a blog of ZEUS10
based on Kollia's book

ALL THE WORDS ON YOUR POST #3
ARE FROM HIS BOOK,

So man plz,
we all have brain here,

his book say exactly what you write,
AND YOU USE THE SAME WORDS,
not about Gods.


what is next
that Greek word ΓΑΙΑ sprunks from Alb gje? means all?
lets not be ridiculous,

ALL THE ABOVE ARE EPILECTIC-A (CHERRY-PICKED) from loans, AND FACULTATED,

THERE IS NO CHANCE GREEK TO SPRUNK FROM ALBANIAN,
SINCE ALBANIAN LANGUAGE IS NOT AUTOCHTHONUS IN BALKANS, BUT NORTHEN IE LANGUAGE,

when you understand this
D is Θ in Balkan Autochthonus languages
come back dude

besides start searching Armenian and Avestan language,
like the head Gr ΚΑΡΑ how is in Armenian or in Avestan
come back to tell us, ABOUT ΟΥΤΟΣ and ΤΟΙΟΥΤΟΣ and TOIAYTΟΣ and ΑΟΥΤΟΣ and ΑΥΤΟΣ and ...... αυς and ους-ωτος


at least do not be a lier,
about Kollia,
you used all his words, pseudo-linguistic,
as expressed by Zeus10 in his blog,

come on man,

as FOR YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT BYZANTINE RE-WRITTEN LITERATURE
WITNESS FOR YOUR PSEUDOCLAIMS ARE ALL THE STEELES AND STONES AND PAPYRS AND LEATHERS THOUSANDS YEARS BEFORE,
ALL REJECT YOUR THEORIES

SO NO I WILL NOT ENTER TO A DIALOGUE WITH PSEUDOSCIENCE,

you are so ignorant that you do not know that Λυγρα are also Vowels in Greek
'ρ λλ are also vowels in Greek, as they also are consonants
as also αι ει οι υι ου,

and Y is not Η or I but Υpsilon = oυ-ψιλον but in Thracian Idiom Y turn to H and I

so Greek vowels are how many?

all you do is take words from Thracian Idiom (1920's-1950's Constantinopolis, Τριανταφυλιδης effort to introduce and stabιlιζε modern δημοτικη) that is chosen for δημοτικη (simple common modern Greek use for education) and you want prove whatever,
you use simple whatever syllabears common and you think you prove something,

NO DIALOGUE WITH PSEUDO-SCIENCE and you can write what ever,

what is next?
ZEUS LIVED IN EPIRUS ΑΚΡΟΚΕΡΑΥΝΕΙΑ ΟΡΗ? instead of Olympus?

I said stop reading Kollia's book,
and you not only read it, but reproduce it,

if you want to learn the language of GODS
at least learn it well and correct,

and you Know nothing about Greek,
I doupt if you can speak Greek,


as for you example with Αυτος and Aυς is just for laughs,
So you proved that Greek spoke Albanian by a word of Tarantas?
but you TOTTALY ERASED THE FORMS, as suit ypour pseudo-linguist.
ΟΙΣ
ΟΙΟΣ
ΟΥΤΟΣ
ΤΟΥΤΟΣ
ΑΟΥΤΟΣ
ΤΟΙΑΥΤΟΣ- ΤΟΙΑΔΕ
etc etc


you are playing a game with mind, of semi-learned people,
you are not making science,

cause science says the oposite,
search Mayer work on Albanian,


THE LOANS IN A LANGUAGE,
DOES NOT PROVE THAT THE ONE WHO TOOK IS MOTHER OF THE ONE WHO GAVE,


GREEK LANGUAGE HAS 14 Vowels
typical Α Ε Ο Ι Η Υ Ω
Diphthogoi ΑΙ ΕΙ ΟΙ ΥΙ ΟΥ
LYGRA 'Ρ ΛΛ


Finally

All IE languages have similarities,
so is not something special,
to have similarities of Latin with Gaulish
of Gaulish with Iranian,
of Germanic with Armenian
of Slavic with Nordic,
of Indian Sankrit with Greek etc etc
first try to understand this.


PS
we both know the time and by who and all you post were written
and who paid for such crap
do not hide behind your finger man,

 

[Nik]

If I can intervene, as an Albanian I dont agree with Lab if he's really claiming that Albanian is the mother of the IE languages, nor that Greek sprung from Albanian, but Yetos you're not really tackling most of his claims and focusing only on the weak speculations of his beliefs/theory.

That Albanian was connected to Ancient Greek seems like a very plausible idea because Ancient Greek (just like Byzantine and Modern Greek) spread to many non-Greeks and obviously was influenced by many non-Greek languages since antiquity before it became a lingua franca during the peak of the Hellenic Civilization (which was again a mix of several civilization just like every other civilization in the world).

Albanian just happens to be a language strongly related to the northern Ancient Greek neighbours and that shouldn't threaten your modern nationalistic feelings just because you believe Albanians stole Northern Epirus or came as criminals in Greece in the last 20 years. We're covering a period of at least 4000 years here.

Similarly, I'm not threatened by Ancient Greek as it was a beautiful language that sprung by a very strong and sophisticated group of people that spread their power like no other Indo-European group did. Whoever the Ancient Greek civilization touched and absorbed, it turned their cities/regions into rich and beautiful modern museum materials that lasted until today.

 

[LABERIA]

THERE IS NO CHANCE GREEK TO SPRUNK FROM ALBANIAN,

I agree with you. I think Nik explained very well this issue.

SINCE ALBANIAN LANGUAGE IS NOT AUTOCHTHONUS IN BALKANS, BUT NORTHEN IE LANGUAGE,

I don't agree with you. Albanians are authocthonus in their land. I don't know a single case when Albanians have replaced, killed, exterminated or assimilated other ethnic groups. I can prove that this horrible crimes were committed against Albanians from your country and Serbia, with the intention of extermination of the Albanians as a nation. I will not ask you to elaborate your "theory" because i have not read one single post from you that can be considered a serious post.
Yetos, you consider yourself as a original makedonian. You have to inform the world because you are a unique case. At my knowledge doesn't exist original makedonians. People who today live in the Greek region of Macedonia are:
1)Slavs.
2)Vlachs.
3)Albanians.
Later, in the XX century a group of people arrived from Asia Minor during the exchange of the population between Greece and Turkey and settled in this region. This are the people who live today in the Greek region of Macedonia. Of course, today all this people are called greeks. A classic ethnic composition in a region of modern Greece, something that remembers the USA. If you are interested i can provide various sources.
So, if you are convinced that you are an original makedonian, share this great news with the entire world.

 

[Yetos]

If I can intervene, as an Albanian I dont agree with Lab if he's really claiming that Albanian is the mother of the IE languages, nor that Greek sprung from Albanian, but Yetos you're not really tackling most of his claims and focusing only on the weak speculations of his beliefs/theory.

That Albanian was connected to Ancient Greek seems like a very plausible idea because Ancient Greek (just like Byzantine and Modern Greek) spread to many non-Greeks and obviously was influenced by many non-Greek languages since antiquity before it became a lingua franca during the peak of the Hellenic Civilization (which was again a mix of several civilization just like every other civilization in the world).

Albanian just happens to be a language strongly related to the northern Ancient Greek neighbours and that shouldn't threaten your modern nationalistic feelings just because you believe Albanians stole Northern Epirus or came as criminals in Greece in the last 20 years. We're covering a period of at least 4000 years here.

Similarly, I'm not threatened by Ancient Greek as it was a beautiful language that sprung by a very strong and sophisticated group of people that spread their power like no other Indo-European group did. Whoever the Ancient Greek civilization touched and absorbed, it turned their cities/regions into rich and beautiful modern museum materials that lasted until today.

@ NIK

Albanian language is unigue of its kind,
alone and isolated like Greek,
Albanian also has many loans from Latin mainly (Armani-Remenii) Greek Slavic Turkish.
(Personally I believe it is a creole language made Latin-Celtic Greek Slavic on a Germanic substractum)
as every language in Balkans including Greek,
for example the word μπεσσα is a loan to modern Greek by Arbanites Bessa

I did put a tackle but you did not notice it,
probably because you do not know Greek well.

for example he writes
Kofshë = μπουτι booty
the Greek word is Μηρος , Μπουτι booty is a word of butchers for the animal place meat,
so the human part is μηρος while in animal meat we use booty which is a loan, it is imported to Greek
and sometimes when a woman has nice legs and μηρος we say ωραια μπουτια,
you see we also use it for nice woman, but never for a man,

same is -Kockë and κοκκαλο
the Greek word for bone is ΟΣΤΟΝ not Kokkalo,
but some hard bones aftεr long time and with no flesh, we call them kokkalo
for example the termination ο Βρασμος των Κοκκαλων is not the bone boil, but Calcium boil
Besides Kokkalon is also the dice known also Κυβεια Κυττεια
kokkala is also term for bones in a method of mantike (to say the future)
also a game we played as kids
kokkalo 'h kotsi

to understand better both words have other meaning and are not even combined,
why? simply
in Greek when you broke the bone we do not say εσπασε το μπουτι κοκκαλο, or το κοκκαλο του μπουτι, it has no meaning,
but we say εσπασε το μηριαιο οστον, which has meaning.
why cause μπουτι as a foreign word has only numbers, single μπουτι, plural μπουτια,
no cases, genitive, dative etc,
same is kokkalo, is a hard piece of broken and washed bone (calcium stone),
you can not brake it

SO ONLY THE USAGE OF THESE WORDS AS GREEK PROVES THAT ALL THE ABOVE POST is a HOAX

usage of words like nero νερο are not greek,
Modern greek use the term nero νερο for water
but the Greek word is υδωρ -υδρα etc
νερο means fresh-cool
it like you ask
give me fresh water,
in Greek is υδωρ Νεαρον so fresh water ended in language as νερο neron,

like Μυς = mouse and ποντικος
both are greek words but the original is mυς while pontikos means from sea (sea mouse = the one that ships have)

Only by the above NIK you understand that this post comes from a cheap facultated work,

the think that some still do not understand here is this

IE D in Greek goes to Θ,
exception are some words like Dias which kept its original IE sound in NW dialect
so Deti-ma is θετι-μα ιn Greek even in NW dialects (Epirotan)
But Dias Dio-Deus stays Dias Διας

I hope I made my shelf clear,

the effort of Kollia was to provide Albanian as mother of Greek language
and then many Albanian ultranationalists took it and expand it as mother of all IE languages,
with pseudo-science.
reminds me the days of Pan-Slavism, Pan-Hellenism, Pan-Germanism PAN-Celtism PAN-whatever

same phenomena exists also in my country today,
many claim whatever,
but are not to be posted as scientific,

If I did not make my shelf understood,
simply search lexicon or ask a linguist.


TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS,

first
IN THE WRONG METHOD THAT USES LOANS ALBANIAN IS VERY OLD IE language,
IF YOU EXCLUDE LOANS THE OTHER METHOD ALBANIAN IS VERY MODERN.

second
ALBANIAN ASPIRATIONS KEEP THE NORTHEN FORMS,
MEANING HAS A RELATION WITH ABOVE ISTROS (DANUBE) LANGUAGES,

so what really connects Albanian with Greek is the loan words
the words that both took from Celts and Slavs etc, and also the import to Albanian from ancient Greek,

IT IS NOT A NATIONALIST VIEW,
IT IS TRUTH,

personally Albanian language is either Creole language around 900 AD,
but lately is connected with N IE families, which I believe is correct,
and most possible is to be from Dacian Getic Thracian

anyway NIK
the posts of LAB is nothing but a repeat of Kollia and his epigoni
and is tottaly wrong,
only the massive usage of the SLANG LANGUAGE of modern Greek and not the correct words shows clearly an AGENDA.
What Agenda? ask the writter.
does n't this make you suspicious?
or you like to hear pseudo-science?
I do not think so.


first understand this D-->Θ D-->P D-->D D-->Δ


As for Albanian language being Illyrian?
No way,
Illyrians come Norici Austria and moved south,
Illyrians were Celtic (maybe influenced by Germanic) so they should be a centum language
Albanian is towards Satem,

genetics show that Albanian have a degree of older Balkanic DNA,
they have 'old' balkan population,
but in Linguistic show a more North and East aspirations above Istros
accept it or reject it, as it suits you and your own personal believes,
it has more truth, than the posts of LAB.

 

[LAB]

@Yetos said SINCE ALBANIAN LANGUAGE IS NOT AUTOCHTHONUS IN BALKANS, BUT NORTHEN IE LANGUAGE,

Back in 1913 after the Albanian proclamation of independence from Ottoman empire there were some countries like Greece, Serbia and Montenegro allied and started claiming that Albanians were not autochthonus in Balkans but they were Turkish leftovers instead.
what these 3 countries wanted was just Albanian territories so they could expand their own ones.
Greece wanted Epirus , (took the half of it)
Serbia wanted Kosovo
and Montenegro occupied the northern part of Albania
the rest are history which everyone can easily find in the internet.
You're obviously still living back in 1913 and not in 2017,

This study from journals.plos is just showing that you don't know much about Albanians.
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555#pbio-1001555-t001

on this part of the study there's the reference about Albanians and Albanian language.

The highest levels of IBD sharing are found in the Albanian-speaking individuals (from Albania and Kosovo), an increase in common ancestry deriving from the last 1,500 years. This suggests that a reasonable proportion of the ancestors of modern-day Albanian speakers (at least those represented in POPRES) are drawn from a relatively small, cohesive population that has persisted for at least the last 1,500 years. These individuals share similar but slightly higher numbers of common ancestors with nearby populations than do individuals in other parts of Europe (see Figure S3), implying that these Albanian speakers have not been a particularly isolated population so much as a small one. Furthermore, our Greek and Macedonian samples share much higher numbers of common ancestors with Albanian speakers than with other neighbors, possibly a result of historical migrations, or else perhaps smaller effects of the Slavic expansion in these populations. It is also interesting to note that the sampled Italians share nearly as much IBD with Albanian speakers as with each other. The Albanian language is a Indo-European language without other close relatives [53] that persisted through periods when neighboring languages were strongly influenced by Latin or Greek, suggesting an intriguing link between linguistic and genealogical history in this case.

-Θετα-
In Ancient Greek, θ represented the aspiratedvoiceless dental plosive/t̪ʰ/, but in Modern Greek it represents the voiceless dental fricative/θ/.
In its archaic form, θ was written as a cross within a circle (as in the Etruscan or ), and later, as a line or point in circle ( or ). Archaic crossed forms of theta are seen in the wheel letters of Linear A and Linear B.

i'm not a linguist so i would like someone to explain what Yetos says about D and Θ , because it doesn't makes sense saying that D is not Θ
when we have the examples below
Θυρα > Dera
Θετις > Deti
θέ να γράφω > do me shkru
but also from Greek mythology there is the Mountain goat called Amalthea ( Αμάλθια )
so if D > Θ the word must have been
Amaldia or Amaldhia where A - MAL (mountain,Alb) - Dhia (Goat,Alb)

the name Διας of course it's not of Greek origin as Yetos claims, and it's the same rule as with the words above based on the etymologies of Spiro Konda where again we see D > Θ

Demeter (Δημήτηρ)
The name Demeter is made up of two words, from ‘de’ and ‘meter’. The word ‘de’ was pronounced ‘de’ imitially, and later it was pronounced as ‘dhe’, thus, Demeter= Dhemeter. The meaning of the compound word is indicated as Dhe, meaning in current Albanians ‘earth’, and the original IE word meter=mother (mata in Sanskrit). Thus, Demeter=Dhemeter=Earth Mother. In Greek, the pronunciation varied according to the dialects, Damater (Doric), Domater (Aeolic)…

According to Diodor, Egyptian priests believed that “the earth, as the common womb of all production, they called Metera, as the Greeks in process of time…called the earth Demetra, which anciently was called Gen Metera, or the mother earth, as Orpheus attests in this verse:


The mother earth, Demeter also call’d,


Brings forth most richly. (Diodorus Siculus, I, p. 20, London, 1814)


The Greeks were not aware of the meaning of the word ‘de’ because the compound word “Demeter” is not in Greek but in a pre-Greek language.


Zeus (Ζεύς)


De (see above) became de-a in feminine form and de-u in masculine form. Just like de-a is mother of all, so is de-u father of all. The Greeks took dea and deu and changed them to thea (θεά) and theos (θεάς ), respectively. But the terms had lost their original meaning of Dheu=earth and were thought of as gods/goddesses.


The Latins also took the terms from the Pelasgians and added us to de, creating de-us which changed to Zeus. And, besides “the mother” was also born “Zeus, father of men and gods”, in line with the concept “earth, mother of all” (as inferred in Diodorus passage). Pausania makes the connection even clearer:


Zeus was, Zeus is and will be, mighty Zeus!


Earth gives us fruits, hence call on mother earth.” (Pausanias, III, Cha. X, p.135, London, 1794)


The Latin version transforms “Deupater” to De-jupiter, and then to Jupiter.


As the meaning of ‘Deu’ was deified, the meaning of “born from earth” changed to “born from god’. Now only the base word “Deus” continued to be used and it signified the supreme deity.


Hesychius of Alexandria in his lexicon indicates that “Pellasgians called the deity ‘Dipatyron’ which in today’s Albanian appears as Perendi. Its morphology is explained as follows: If the suffix is dropped dipatyr remains, Dipatyr=Depater=De-at (which in Albanian means father). De pater corresponds to Pater-de (this use is observed in Homer (O Zeus pater… – O father Zeus…), thus, Pater=per, de=di, which join to form Per-di=Perendi. This Pelasgian word would convey the original concept of “the earth is my father”.

DEU (masculine) > ΘΕΟς
DEA (feminine) > ΘΕΑ or ΓΑΙΑ (feminine for the 'Goddess of Earth')

i don't understand your point on saying that Κofshë = μηρος and not μπουτι.
what i'm saying is that basic body parts on Albanian start with ' K ' for a reason, which in Greek is lost by 50% and only half of them start with 'K'
and for a strange reason the word 'Akro' seems to be an anagram of the word 'Krah' since only in Albanian basic body parts starting with 'K' and probably can be related with a symbol from ancient symbolic languages.

p.s i didnt take anything from anyone, i'm the same guy(Kaonian) who posted the basic body parts of Albanian on Zeus's site,
which is not something i figured out personally, my personal opinion is that they start with 'K' because of the symbol on the Phaistos disc looks like 'K' and it's shaped from the 'human body' of course that's not the only symbol that we can relate with Albanian language,
and i haven't read Kollias book yet, but of course you use that as your only argument.

 

[Yetos]

@Yetos said SINCE ALBANIAN LANGUAGE IS NOT AUTOCHTHONUS IN BALKANS, BUT NORTHEN IE LANGUAGE,Back in 1913 after the Albanian proclamation of independence from Ottoman empire there were some countries like Greece, Serbia and Montenegro allied and started claiming that Albanians were not autochthonus in Balkans but they were Turkish leftovers instead.what these 3 countries wanted was just Albanian territories so they could expand their own ones.Greece wanted Epirus , (took the half of it)Serbia wanted Kosovo and Montenegro occupied the northern part of Albania the rest are history which everyone can easily find in the internet.You're obviously still living back in 1913 and not in 2017, This study from journals.plos is just showing that you don't know much about Albanians.http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555#pbio-1001555-t001on this part of the study there's the reference about Albanians and Albanian language.The highest levels of IBD sharing are found in the Albanian-speaking individuals (from Albania and Kosovo), an increase in common ancestry deriving from the last 1,500 years. This suggests that a reasonable proportion of the ancestors of modern-day Albanian speakers (at least those represented in POPRES) are drawn from a relatively small, cohesive population that has persisted for at least the last 1,500 years. These individuals share similar but slightly higher numbers of common ancestors with nearby populations than do individuals in other parts of Europe (see Figure S3), implying that these Albanian speakers have not been a particularly isolated population so much as a small one. Furthermore, our Greek and Macedonian samples share much higher numbers of common ancestors with Albanian speakers than with other neighbors, possibly a result of historical migrations, or else perhaps smaller effects of the Slavic expansion in these populations. It is also interesting to note that the sampled Italians share nearly as much IBD with Albanian speakers as with each other. The Albanian language is a Indo-European language without other close relatives [53] that persisted through periods when neighboring languages were strongly influenced by Latin or Greek, suggesting an intriguing link between linguistic and genealogical history in this case.-Θετα-In Ancient Greek, θ represented the aspiratedvoiceless dental plosive/t̪ʰ/, but in Modern Greek it represents the voiceless dental fricative/θ/.In its archaic form, θ was written as a cross within a circle (as in the Etruscan or ), and later, as a line or point in circle ( or ). Archaic crossed forms of theta are seen in the wheel letters of Linear A and Linear B.i'm not a linguist so i would like someone to explain what Yetos says about D and Θ , because it doesn't makes sense saying that D is not Θ when we have the examples belowΘυρα > DeraΘετις > Detiθέ να γράφω > do me shkrubut also from Greek mythology there is the Mountain goat called Amalthea ( Αμάλθια ) so if D > Θ the word must have beenAmaldia or Amaldhia where A - MAL (mountain,Alb) - Dhia (Goat,Alb)the name Διας of course it's not of Greek origin as Yetos claims, and it's the same rule as with the words above based on the etymologies of Spiro Konda where again we see D > Θ Demeter (Δημήτηρ)The name Demeter is made up of two words, from ‘de’ and ‘meter’. The word ‘de’ was pronounced ‘de’ imitially, and later it was pronounced as ‘dhe’, thus, Demeter= Dhemeter. The meaning of the compound word is indicated as Dhe, meaning in current Albanians ‘earth’, and the original IE word meter=mother (mata in Sanskrit). Thus, Demeter=Dhemeter=Earth Mother. In Greek, the pronunciation varied according to the dialects, Damater (Doric), Domater (Aeolic)…According to Diodor, Egyptian priests believed that “the earth, as the common womb of all production, they called Metera, as the Greeks in process of time…called the earth Demetra, which anciently was called Gen Metera, or the mother earth, as Orpheus attests in this verse:The mother earth, Demeter also call’d,Brings forth most richly. (Diodorus Siculus, I, p. 20, London, 1814)The Greeks were not aware of the meaning of the word ‘de’ because the compound word “Demeter” is not in Greek but in a pre-Greek language.Zeus (Ζεύς) De (see above) became de-a in feminine form and de-u in masculine form. Just like de-a is mother of all, so is de-u father of all. The Greeks took dea and deu and changed them to thea (θεά) and theos (θεάς ), respectively. But the terms had lost their original meaning of Dheu=earth and were thought of as gods/goddesses. The Latins also took the terms from the Pelasgians and added us to de, creating de-us which changed to Zeus. And, besides “the mother” was also born “Zeus, father of men and gods”, in line with the concept “earth, mother of all” (as inferred in Diodorus passage). Pausania makes the connection even clearer: Zeus was, Zeus is and will be, mighty Zeus! Earth gives us fruits, hence call on mother earth.” (Pausanias, III, Cha. X, p.135, London, 1794) The Latin version transforms “Deupater” to De-jupiter, and then to Jupiter. As the meaning of ‘Deu’ was deified, the meaning of “born from earth” changed to “born from god’. Now only the base word “Deus” continued to be used and it signified the supreme deity. Hesychius of Alexandria in his lexicon indicates that “Pellasgians called the deity ‘Dipatyron’ which in today’s Albanian appears as Perendi. Its morphology is explained as follows: If the suffix is dropped dipatyr remains, Dipatyr=Depater=De-at (which in Albanian means father). De pater corresponds to Pater-de (this use is observed in Homer (O Zeus pater… – O father Zeus…), thus, Pater=per, de=di, which join to form Per-di=Perendi. This Pelasgian word would convey the original concept of “the earth is my father”.DEU (masculine) > ΘΕΟςDEA (feminine) > ΘΕΑ or ΓΑΙΑ (feminine for the 'Goddess of Earth')i don't understand your point on saying that Κofshë = μηρος and not μπουτι.what i'm saying is that basic body parts on Albanian start with ' K ' for a reason, which in Greek is lost by 50% and only half of them start with 'K'and for a strange reason the word 'Akro' seems to be an anagram of the word 'Krah' since only in Albanian basic body parts starting with 'K' and probably can be related with a symbol from ancient symbolic languages.p.s i didnt take anything from anyone, i'm the same guy(Kaonian) who posted the basic body parts of Albanian on Zeus's site,which is not something i figured out personally, my personal opinion is that they start with 'K' because of the symbol on the Phaistos disc looks like 'K' and it's shaped from the 'human body' of course that's not the only symbol that we can relate with Albanian language,and i haven't read Kollias book yet, but of course you use that as your only argument.

At least you started to understand, Lab
and again you are wrong Why? cause you are possesed and have mania with your Ideas,but you keep your agenda to prove what? that Ancient Greeks spoke Albanian?
Try explain unigue wordslike ΓΑΙΑ ΑΡΙΣΤΟΓΕΙΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΣ ΑΓΑΜΕΜΝΩΝΟ ΜΗΡΟΣ ΟΔΥΣΣΕΑΣ
AMΑΛΘΕΙΑ FROM ΜΑΛΘΩΣΙΣ = soft, from solid to liquid, lack of correct situation, lack of stability.Α is the negative A Μαλθος = soft and LackΑΜΑΛΘΕΙΑ = NON LACK OF SOMETHING
keep bombing us with your AGENDA THAT GREEK SPRUNG FROM ALBANIAN.
no need to reply more,cause also D-->Δ not only D-->Θ
So DIO DEUS in GREEK is ΔΙΑΣ
So Δημητρα = ΓΑ + ΜΗΤΗΡ ALL GREEK WORDS ΓΑΙΑ + ΜΗΤΗΡ = ΓΗ ΜΗΤΗΡ = ΔΗΜΗΤΗΡ
BUT ΓΑ is Also ΔΑ see ΕΔΑΦΟΣ, see ΕΔΩ
SO ANOTHER PURE GREEK WORD
EVEN IN ALBANIAN UNIVERSITIES THEY DO NOT TEACH SUCH
Lets see what you write
The Latins also took the terms from the Pelasgians and added us to de, creating de-us which changed to Zeus. And, besides “the mother” was also born “Zeus, father of men and gods”, in line with the concept “earth, mother of all” (as inferred in Diodorus passage). Pausania makes the connection even clearer:
DO YOU KNOW THE PELASGIAN LANGUAGE?
AND IF IE is DIO DEUS ΔΙΑΣ HOW COME ALBANIAN IS ZONG?
ΖΕΥΣ from ΔΙΙΕΥΣ = ΔΙΑΣ D+J = Z letter is yiota ι but comes from Djot has a silent γ before ι
that is why Ιατρος = Γιατρος Μυια = Μυγα
YOU ARE IGNORANT IN GREEK LANGUAGE.
ALL YOU DO IS TO TAKE THE IE ROOTS OF GREEK LANGUAGETO TELL US WHAT? THAT WE DO NOT SPEAK GREEK
HOAX WHY?cause Greek is IE language and evolute in SOUTH IN BALKANS,
YOUR HOAX IS THAT YOU DENY THE EVOLUTION OF GREEK FROM PROTO-FORMS TO MODERN,
and by Linguistic tricks you want to tell us that ΑΜΑΛΘΕΙΑ IS NOT A GREEK WORD !!!!!!
the funny is that using your method I can easily prove that Greek is Sanskrit, is Avestan, is Slavic
or the oposite, that Greek is the mother language of all IE languages,
come on IE gave many languages some of them were Hellenic, Mycenean, Homeric, Anatolian, that evolute to archaic Greek

PS
I am certain that by reading Homer you will find more common words with Albanian than reading a modern Greek book,
WHYcause Homer is closer to LPIE than modern Greeksame is
if an Iranian reads Homer, or a German, or Indian Sanskrit speaker, or a Slav, or a Celt same
but you are not amazed on how close to LPIE is Homer,and your ignorance on Greek drived you to tell us that Greeks spoke Albanian
and this become possesion, so not to see the truth,the IE coomon ancestry, but you do what?
ancient Greeks spoke Albanian!!!!!!!!oh boy
At least send your work to a university,you might get famous and rich, even NOBEL PRICEinstead of posting it to a blog,and ......

PS2Ακρον is the limit, either start, either end, either top, either down, is the edge, a peak not a body part,but term ακρα to body we mean the edges away from main body (κορμος),
A-------------B both A+B are Ακρα of the line part
end of the word = περας του κοσμου
Limit of the world = οριον του κοσμου
edge of the world = ακρον του κοσμου
edge of the cliff = ακρη του βραχου ακρη του γκρεμου
upper limit (mathematics) = Ανω Ακρον Ανω Οριονfraction
f(x) shows a local upper edge, a peak = τοπικο ΑΚΡΟταττο
if all body parts in Albanian starts from K and no need to reject it, since I am not an Albanian speaker
then also Armenian head ghekavar and Avestan-Iranian head starts from K if remember correct and Deutsch Kopf, and Slavic Glava (K->G) comes from Albanian?
do'nt you think? the answer is NO
they all come from PIE, Proto-Indo-European language
SO to END
I do not know if your posts here are your work personally,or you found them somewhere else,
BUT
1rst) if they were correct then surely the writer would gain the Nombel pice, and All Academic circles would start to search his way?
2nd) why are not teched in universities all over the world?

the last the more friendly effort to make you see, the Hoax
and I commit to you that many times myshelf also felt in this trap
now if it is your work, all you have to do is send them to a university and publish it to a scientic magazine.
if it is not? stop believing it, it is a Hoax.
I can easily explain all European names and toponymes etc etc with Greek which is the richest IE language of the world,and is not me who tell this, all linguists say so,
and say Greek is mother of all languages,many do so in Greece, but I would be wrong, same is the theories you post,
that all parts of body start from K in Albanian, possibly a reason Albanians did so, and I do not know why
but considering Greek Kara and Kranio (the head bones) and Κεφαλη - Κεβαλη, with for example Slavic glava, then I conclude what? that ancient Greek spoke Slavic?
come on.
all modern languages are evolution of older forms, proto-forms,and all proto-forms are evolution of LPIE.

so yes the name word ZEUS (Dijeus) and ΔΙΑΣ are Greek, (as DEUS is Latin, and sprunk from older common forms of IE,)
cause they sprunk from proto-Greek forms and proto Greek sprunk from late proto Indo-European,
same is Latin, etc etcso
when Homer writes Θετις for the sea Nymph/deity , it means the evolution was already done,