Valerius
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Going by this I guess that most people from Greece, the Balkans, and perhaps Southern Italy and Iberia are going to get East African? It's odd, because there were no Moorish invasions of the mainland. I hear some people are attributing it to very old farmer input from the Near East, but last I saw Natufians had no SSA, unless SSA is really West African, and this is Horner type ancestry that may have seeped into the Levant and from there gone with farmers into Europe.
I find it odd that I'm getting so much less Iran Neolithic/Chalcolithic/CHG here, less than people from Greece and the Balkans, and even less than Northern Europeans, when I used to get respectable amounts of "West Asian" in modern population based admixture calculators. I don't know what it really represents. I know Kurd has said that if we had more and better Levant samples those numbers might go up. I don't think that's the case with the Iran samples, though, so I don't understand the rationale for lower values for that one. I'm not on anthrogenica, so I can't ask him.
I don't think these admixtures are connected to recent historical events, it's more gedmatch-like, "Anthropological" calculator as I see it but with more fancy terms. These 1.2% East African looks like the 2% Red Sea from Gedmatch and I believe it's the same type of ancient admixture. Actually, it's very un-historical calculator - if you have let say Scythian admixture I believe it's only similar to this admixture but not a direct proof that you have it from historical Scythian tribes but could be mediated through Slavs, Turkic peoples, Goths or God knows what.
The MENA type of ancestry AFAIK is showing when there is no "catch-all" clusters like the ones in FTDNA - if you get one of these clusters and dissolve it to its composites, MENA ancestry will show behind every cluster. So I've been told. That's why Southern Europeans like us used to get such stats in FTDNA, Ancestry etc. - in the end it's connected to pre-historical movements of EEF and the likes. About the Natufians, aren't they modeled on just 4-5 samples? Who knows what may pop-up with more samples. It would be especially interesting for me to see more samples from them as I'm very distantly connected to these people on the Y-chromozome.