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  • I would chop my hand off to save my life

    14 21.54%
  • I would ask the other person to chop my hand

    9 13.85%
  • I would panick and eventually faint - and die

    5 7.69%
  • I would prefer to die rather than live without a hand

    4 6.15%
  • I would commit suicide in desperation rather than dying of poison or living without a hand

    2 3.08%
  • I would wait and die

    5 7.69%
  • I would do a tourniquet around my wrist and try to go back to the nearest place with anti-venom, even if my chances of dying before are high

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    I would be sucking out the venom after filling my mouth with saliva (to minimize absorption) and THEN putting on a tourniquet. I'd have asked my friend to call for/go for help and I'd only chop off my hand as a last resort (e.g. if I know how long the helicopter/ambulance with antivenom would take, based on monitoring my own symptoms for as long as I'm lucid).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimF
    Well put Mandylion i was waiting for someone to say it. And besids Even if you run it only speeds up your heart rate which pumps the venom in you blood faster which in turn causes it to spread through the body.
    Although isn't amputation used to prevent gangrene ? Gangrene would actually be a reason I wouldn't use a tournaquit. So I can't say for sure what I'd do without knowing how long severed limbs can survive without bleeding to death and whether snakebite kits could be effective or not.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth
    Although isn't amputation used to prevent gangrene ? Gangrene would actually be a reason I wouldn't use a tournaquit. So I can't say for sure what I'd do without knowing how long severed limbs can survive without bleeding to death and whether snakebite kits could be effective or not.....
    I would agree about the gangrene thing if you already had it and you were being amputated at a hospital but choping off your hand in the boonies is only going to lead to you getting it. You will not be able to fight the infection especially with the long walk, It will set in quick. I took a wilderness survival class the sametime I took my hunters saftey course, they taught me how to deal with snake bites broken limbs lassarations etc. so i think i might know what to do in this situation. I mean i dont know alot about the flora and fawna of that reigon but the language of survival is universal so i think i could make it.

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    But from what I understand cutting off a limb is a viable first aid survival strategy, such as the sailors Frank mentioned or mountain climbers etc with frostbite. Plus when it is used for punishment or as an initiation rite -- do those people also have to get medical care immediately afterwards or is it just a matter of it spreading with movement ?

    Anyway, I'm far from a wilderness guru I just remembered reading somewhere that snake bites can also lead to gangrene. In this case, you're pretty much doomed whichever way you decide to go.

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    I'd rather die, i need both my hands.

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    Reminds Me....

    years ago there was a joke about two guys out in the desert(lifelong close friends). One gets bit on the buttocks low in the groin area. He says to his buddy , will you cut the X and suck the venom out? No, but I promise to be a good pallbearer for ya. Something like that? I heard later, you can't suck the venom out, and I felt better about letting my buddy die.

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    I'd bite the snake first!
    Failing that, I would do the tourniquette - no chance I'm sacrificing my hand!

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    Whoa, some people are going to die if it ever happens.

    First rule of hiking/camping. PREPARE! The 6 P's; Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. If you're going out into an area like that you get malaria shots, take the common anti-venom, adequate First Aid kit, make sure you have some kind of decent comm's equipment and suitable clothing.

    The cutting the hand off option in the case of a snake bite/spider bite would have to be quick. ACK! CHOP. Or aim for the elbow. A better option is to get a pressure bandage on the limb, splint it, apply an antivenom and call for help. Sucking it out will only kill you more surely.

    Cutting your hand/arm/whatever off if stuck or trapped is another thing again.

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    I say...where's the beef...I mean knife?

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    beef......*drools*...yeah I looked for all kinds of information b4 I went actually...to prevent nasty situations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockLee
    I would probably die....but I would die trying at least!!!!
    exact thoughts here! I will never be able to do it on my hands.. NEVER

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    I would try my best to get to somewhere with anti-venom.. I just wouldn't wanna live one-handed.. it would suck so much.. lol.. so I'd either get lucky and live or die with pride and crawling my way to a hospital lol..

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    i would tie a tournequet around mym wrist(hand)actually mid arm below elbow, that why i wouldn't die off blood loss or shock, and have my friend lay some branches or something under me and drag me to the nearest place(even if we had to turn back). if there was a cliff to jump or a tree to climb, i would take the risk of my blood rushing. if when i got to the other side and i felt weaker due to the venom, then i would have the person cut my arm off...wow. i would do alot of stuff.

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    I would just sit there and wait till I die, maybe sing a song as I go along -.-... and if my friend pursuades me, I'll maybe do a tourniquet..

    Say... you might also die by chopping of a hand, wouldn't you? Considering the amount of blood you'd loose... o.<

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    like i said......

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    But ne, wouldn't your blood still kind of flow... :que:

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    that's what the tournequet is for...you tie it so tight you pretty much cut the circulation off of your arm...(no blood flow) of course you will still bleed, but just not so much as gushing...(ew, that's a little graphic)

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    This will sound totally perverted, but...

    this is the pervert's way out. Ritual suicide preceded by oine final fap. Mutilating myself is something I wouldn't be able to tolerate as a half-assed job. Either enough to die, or not at all, so a hand chop is not an option.


    Then again, elizabeth said it best. Don't go to areas with poison snakes.

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    tourniquet

    What i would do is to apply a tourniquet some distance from the bite
    (as close to the body as possible).
    Then cut a long gash to bleed out some of the poison.
    patch up and go wave my bleeding limb in the face of the nearest doctor/nurse/vet

    PS. in the voting it says "tourniquet around my wrist"
    should never use a tourniquet on a joint

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    I would wait and die ... to leave this "cruel sick" world -_-

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    According to my US armed forces survival book, when bitten by a snake, there is a 20% chance that the bite did not inject any poison (presuming that the snake was poisonous). But just in case, you should apply a tourniqet closer to your heart than where the bite is, but make sure the tourniqet is not too tight to prevet the arterial flow from being cut off. Two cut should be made (though this is advised against because you may be panicking and actually cause more harm) on the bite marks paralel to each other. The cuts should be about two inches wide and four inches deep. If a snake bite kit is available, then it should be used (sucks poison and blood out for you), but if it is not available suck it out yourself. Continue to suck for 15 minutes, and if you are okay then you'll live. Seek medical attention. (there was some more but I forgot the rest)

    Personally, if there was someone else with you, I would think applying a tourniqet and having them carry you to the nearest medical facilty to keep your heart from beating too much and get some anti-venom. Don't forget to identify the snake and know which allergies you have to help the doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtrot Uniform
    The cuts should be about two inches wide and four inches deep.
    Four inches deep?! That's really deep! I took off a bit of the tip of my left index finger on Saturday, but the cut wasn't any more than a couple of millimeters deep. Even so, that seemed to be enough to expose nerve endings, because it stung like hell everytime it touched something. Even today the replacement skin is still about a millimeter below the old skin. I couldn't imagine a four-inch-deep cut. That would inevitably require stitches, and almost it seems as though the cure is worse than the disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    Four inches deep?!
    D'oh!! Sorry, its acutally 1/2 inch wide and 1/4 inch deep!

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    Lol, yeah, that makes a big difference, eh?

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