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Physically, turn into fertilizer.
Conceptually, live on in the memories, hearts and imaginations of those who knew me personally or through the things I left behind (ideas, works, etc.)
miu said:I don't know what happens after death but I've always imagined dying feels the same as the moment when you're waiting to fall asleep and you wonder what happens to your mind when you finally do fall asleep - it feels like entering a sort of void.
It's not impossible that you'll black out from the pain very early in that process though... I cling to that shred of hope myself.Maciamo said:I imagine dying as a terribly painful experience, as every neuron of your brain and nerve of your body has to die. When your burn or cut yourself, you feel it because of the nerves that transmit it to your brain. So the pain is really in a tiny part of your brain that controls that small area of your body. Now imagine the pain if all the parts of your brain have to die (i.e. suffer so bad that the neurons finally explode) approximately at the same time (although it could last for several minutes, if not hours, as there is a stock of oxygen and reserve energy). This is 'dying'. All your memory, imagination, feelings, sense of your body, reasoning, etc. cry in pain and die. This is worst than how most people imagine hell. Well, if a person is completely disintegrated in a ultra-powerful explosion then we could imagine that we don't have the time to feel the pain. But death by lack of oxygen (eg. drowning, poisoning, heart attack, thrombosis, severe loss of blood, etc.) first result in losing control of one's body, faling semi-inconscious then feel each neuron die by asphixia, although you can't move a finger of your body.
Maciamo said:Now imagine the pain if all the parts of your brain have to die (i.e. suffer so bad that the neurons finally explode) approximately at the same time (although it could last for several minutes, if not hours, as there is a stock of oxygen and reserve energy).
i understand your point...lexico said:You don't have to apologize because you did make it very clear; but please understand how these threads grow like plants. You never know what the next move will be. It can be frustrating for the exacting philosopher, but it makes it so much funner for the mischievous like TwistedMac ... :biggrin:
You should realize that you are asking a lot. For the minority people of faith on this forum where self-proclaimed atheists reign to pronounce their religious beliefs is like asking a Jew to identify his/her ethnic identity in occupied France for example. No genuine offense meant btw. :biggrin:
A little textual history of the Christian bible may help ellucidate a further, more genuine difficulty for some Christian skeptics. If the question was asked in 70 or 80 CE, the answer would have been straightforward. Life after death would follow a judgement before the creator on which pended one of two results; all the Jews and the gentile justs who held on to faith in Christ the King shall be brought back to life in full flesh and blood to live in the Kingdom for eternity; the gentile unjust who refused the faith shall not be resurrected from death and perish into the earth as dust unto dust.
With the two major Jewish Revolutions failing, and the last of the 1st apostles and witnesses of Jesus dying by circa 90 CE, and the 2nd generation of faith who had not seen Jesus in person also dying out, the believers were disappointed that the announcement of impending end was not fulfilled. One adminstrative solution to the break in living tradition was to bring together all trustworthy accounts by the 1st generation of believers and fix the Christian canon. Therefore the answer to afterlife became a symbolic and futurist one as opposed to the literal "end of the world at hand." Likewise modern catechism teaches there are two moments to the end; your personal death and the judgement day when all will face the creator for the final decision.
In this age of relativity, even the faithful are not spared of the constant challenge from common sense and logic (Science, evolution, or the follies of creationism are no source of doubt, as some uninformed might claim). As for my personal view, I can honestly say that I do not know for sure. The will of the creator is not to be fathomed by the creature, but only imagined and speculated. Who knows what life after life will be like ? I hope it will have a giant library combining the greatest libraries in history, some good coffee stalls, and a gym would be nice. :evil:
O, of course I shouldn't forget wideband connection with google and JFORUM. I'd like to have some restaurants serving curry, chicken yakitori, konbu soup, with a good assortment of vegetables.
lexico said:You've got me hooked with your questions...and life is not the same.
I hope the philosopher is not bothered by performance anxiety.
I know it's more difficult to come up with good questions, but let's drop the "good" part, and have just plain vanilla questions.
Vanilla happens to be my favorite, as is plain rice, plain water, plain everything.
Index said:Physically, turn into fertilizer.
Conceptually, live on in the memories, hearts and imaginations of those who knew me personally or through the things I left behind (ideas, works, etc.)
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