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smoke
25-05-05, 13:14
"Great Scott!"

I'd be really interested to know what peoples ideas are for what the future will be like.
I don't want to look too far ahead...about 50 years or so.

Ok, I'll be honest, the is an ulterior motive to my question.
I have started to write again (after many failures and non-starters!). The piece i'm working on is going to be set about 50 years in the future and although i do have many ideas, i'd like to know what others think.
It isn't really going to be a sci-fi piece...more bleak, but i don't want to give too much away. It will be set in London, but don't let that affect your answers. It's your ideas of the future, in the world around you.
As simple, as technical, as extravagent, as silly, as methodical as you want...don't have any boundaries!

Peace
Smoke.

lexico
25-05-05, 15:38
Hahaha, good to see you post again, and I can see it's getting trickier and trickier with each question you raise. You aren't the idea-sucking subroutine in the great matrix, are you ? :D

Okay, there are two parts to your question. Hence it's only fitting to reply in two parts disregarding the humor. Just one more before I go on. Why is it that I have these strange ideas about your smking sister avatar ? First, she doesn't seem real. Why ? He's too Nazi to be a catholic nun, not to say that catholics didn't colaborate with the Nazi's but definitely not the standard image, you know ? She also looks Asian. In fact I'd be hard pressed to say she's a woman at all. And what appears to be a stick of cigarette turns out to be a stick of kancho. All these make her cover so unbelieveable.

Part I: Back on topic, me honest response is 50 yrs from now is like a walk thru a heavily fogged forest, where both wonderful forest life and dangerous beasts coexist, suspended in a delicate balance. The herbivores are most of the time enjoying their fibrous meals, but the carnivores, lacking in vegetable fiber, but unable to digest plant based foods, but resort to violence to supplement their dietary needs. And after the bloodshed, the forest goes back to peaceful times as if nothing had happened; the rain and fog and fallen leaves will wash away and cover all memeories of dread.

Part II: A fairy tale doesn't seem to be what's on your mind. Some conspiracy, some greed, some evil plan to take over innocent victims always make good material for a popular story. Add a dash of trust and betrayal, of sex and savagery, a spicy twist and twang towards the end. How about...jerking the terminator plot; Japan and Germany have become underlings for the neo-Nazi nation Amrika pushing for maximum profit and control... but the remnants of the these two gang up to destroy the evil power...

mad pierrot
25-05-05, 15:53
Suburbs will go extinct.

Doc
25-05-05, 20:29
The world will cease to exist.

Doc:ramen::happy:

Ma Cherie
25-05-05, 20:31
If it's not happening already, the whole world will be officially ran by computers or some other type of machine.

smoke
25-05-05, 23:19
Lexico, it is good to hear from you again...and it is also good to hear that you are just as insane as before (Nazi-nuns are a mild tangent in the mind of the great lex). You ideas are always welcommed and greatly received...as are those of eveyone else who posts in this topic. And as for sex and savagery, the story opend with the aftermath of sex...perhaps aftermath is a term that makes it seem violent...however it is more of a robbing rather than a violent act!
Mad perriot...you idea is not dissimilar to one i had about a new set of divisions within london..but i don't want to go into great detail, as i tend to jinx myself with talking of various plot ideas and 9 times out of 10...my work never gets finished.
I may indeed post a small fraction of the incredibly small progress that is my "untitled".
That is, if people would care to read it? and abviously, if the good people of this forum would kindly not plagerise.

All of yours idea are great and would appreciate many more!

Kinsao
26-05-05, 13:16
In 50 years time, I think people will not be allowed to 'retire' from work, but have to keep working until... maybe 70? (realistically) And, old people will be given compulsory lethal injection (unless they live with their family).

Well, you did say bleak...

smoke
26-05-05, 14:13
In 50 years time, I think people will not be allowed to 'retire' from work, but have to keep working until... maybe 70? (realistically) And, old people will be given compulsory lethal injection (unless they live with their family).

Well, you did say bleak...
Like it...especially the lethal injection part!!! (does that make me sick?)
Kinda goes hand in hand with ideas i had of over population!

misa.j
26-05-05, 15:51
My ideas are not as wacky, and some of them might be even happening already.

All the publications will go online like e-books, e-magazines, e-newspaper.
People will be able to buy prescription drugs out of veding machines 24/7, including food pills that taste like and make you feel like eating a real meal.
You will be able to use any currency you want to anywhere in the world.
Fox hunting will be legal again in England.

I'll stop here because I don't want to bore you.

Rich303
26-05-05, 16:20
I am not going to make any predictions of my own,
but I recommend you check out Alvin Toffler,who is American.
He is a sort of modern philosopher,I've seen some interviews with him. He's kind of hypnotising because he is so intense and clever.
He's published various books on what the future might be like. Not just technology,but how society might change as well...

Hope this is of use Smokey!..Rich

Sensuikan San
27-05-05, 03:28
In 50 years time, I think people will not be allowed to 'retire' from work, but have to keep working until... maybe 70? (realistically) And, old people will be given compulsory lethal injection (unless they live with their family).

Well, you did say bleak...

This is almost happening now !

It's not that we aren't allowed to retire .... many of us don't want to - or can't afford to !

Personally, I have every intention of working until I'm seventy if I can (I'm not totally infirm just yet !)



Like it...especially the lethal injection part!!! (does that make me sick?)
Kinda goes hand in hand with ideas i had of over population!
You cruel young bugger !


Fox hunting will be legal again in England.
And you're a cruel young bugger too !

I feel much safer since I left England ..........:relief:

(I could always nip back for a few days and sort you out, though....!) :box:

Concerned Regards,

W

Sensuikan San
27-05-05, 03:44
Like it...especially the lethal injection part!!! (does that make me sick?)
Kinda goes hand in hand with ideas i had of over population!

Ho! Ho! HOOO!

It just ocurred to me ....!

I've just noticed your age !

In fifty years time .... you'll be......

See Ya !

W

smoke
27-05-05, 09:42
Ho! Ho! HOOO!

It just ocurred to me ....!

I've just noticed your age !

In fifty years time .... you'll be......

See Ya !

W
Indeed i will be...
well to be honest...i'd be quite happy (or possibly not) if i'm still alive in 50 yrs!!! Oh, and u are much better off outta england.


Thanks to everyone for the idea...it's kinda freaky, because i tend to have similar ideas...especially e-newspapers...i actually thought of that whilst in the shower this morning (cue Twilight Zone music)!

However, i didn't slip whilst changing a light bulb, hit my head on the basin and invent the flex capacitor! (I think i've seen back to the future too many times!)

smoke
27-05-05, 09:44
I am not going to make any predictions of my own,
but I recommend you check out Alvin Toffler,who is American.
He is a sort of modern philosopher,I've seen some interviews with him. He's kind of hypnotising because he is so intense and clever.
He's published various books on what the future might be like. Not just technology,but how society might change as well...

Hope this is of use Smokey!..Rich
the name rings a bell...i will check him out!
thanks man....hehehe, "Smokey"...like it!

Kinsao
27-05-05, 15:05
Hi again,
I'm not sure about over population... of course it could happen, but I think it's more likely to be the other way around. In England (and Japan!) anyway, people are having less kids now, so it's unbalanced and there's a higher proportion of old people. I guess if it does go the way of the lethal injection, the population will actually go down. In fact, in a lot of European countries (I think Italy's the, um, 'worst offender' but don't quote me on that coz it might be out of date) it's below replacement level.

Of course, if people start having loadsa kids as well as living a good long time, yeah, overpopulation would be a problem.

Similarly if bits keep dropping off the land into the sea on a regular basis, like they tend to in England... :p

Ma Cherie
27-05-05, 21:57
Yeah, I was wondering about the over population issue. Especially in those countries where there are quite a few senior citizens. But it's strange, according to some research people are living longer these days. Then again, I really don't know. :?

Thor
27-05-05, 22:24
I suggest some sort of execution program. I'll be more specific later, saving this for well later.

Dutch Baka
27-05-05, 22:50
my opinion about the future:

in 2055 , a lot of things will become electronic, like newspapers, etc, exept books ( because I CAN NOT READ A BOOK, OR lots of text on the computer.. ) as the restaurant in your company will be Microwave food, and not been made by cooks, why? because competition in live will be getting more more more, and more, so yeah you safe some money with using Good microwave food, isntead of a 30$ hour cook. look at airplanes, everything is microwave food ( hope it will be better in the future)

in the future, there will be a 3th world war, i think it will be finnished by then already, lets say a war of 10 years at least, i think we know where that will be ( dont want, but im afraid it will be) Nukes will be used! ( we have them, there getting better )

i think live will be a big mess, look at the children from now ( im just 20 but when i look at 5 year younger kids) no respect there is now, and i dont think they will learn that much in the future, as respect is an important thing you should learn on this age.

i think the older people around here, can tell better how it would look like, as im just 20. but for the next 10-20 years not much good is comming up.. maybe after it, when people just get sick of it...

sorry this is my MOST depresing post EVER..........

owww..the polar will melt, BUT the netherlands will still be there ( thats some postitive thing LOL) but for other things it will be bad, fishes are heading up North already to get colder water, i dont think it will go as fast in the movie "The day after tommorow" but i think a simular thing like this can happen in around 10 years time.

the world has always been GOOD/BAD Balance in life as we talked about it in the thread "why do people die" this is the same in the future i think, war will happen, but also peace will come, in the second world war there was war by german-japan ( etc) but now they are friend with the ones they fought with... this will maybe also the same with the Middle east, korea in 50 years time? and maybe some other country like australia would be the bad guy? i dont know, just i think there will always be groups, people like this!!

i hope i put my opinion in a bit Logical way.. LOL

Im not a world leader, and i do not want to be one, but this is the world im living in, so i Care about it

P.S i dont believe live wil be like star wars or fifth element in the next 50 years, but the sky will turn more brown then bleu...

Mycernius
27-05-05, 23:00
America would no longer be a superpower. China would have collasped and part of it would be undercontrol of warlords , the rest controlled by a Japanese/South Korean super government. Europe would be a superstate and Winston Smith would be working on words trying to stay out of room 101. :shock:
Either that or if you beleive all the doom-mongers in the world no-one would be alive because we would have destroyed oureselves and the planet would be a happier place.

Sensuikan San
28-05-05, 21:00
I decided to split my post into two or three segments here .. partly because of time restraints on myself ... and partly to allow you all to tell me to "Shut-Up!" if you wanted to - but I picked this up during one of my short trips in my (as yet imperfect...) Time Machine ..... :


Washington Post

December 31, 2050


A Review of the Half-Century

By Wendy Grabdik


My word ! Just, how 50 years have flown !

As is customary to so many of us in this business, I would like to push...sorry! ... offer you my assessment of the last fifty years, as we embark on the road towards the countdown to the twenty-second century.

And what a fifty years it has been !

Since its tragic beginnings, with the election of George W. Bush – through the even more tragic events of September 11, 2001 – this unforgettable half century has thrilled, horrified, frightened and delighted us all !

Let us just begin our review with a couple of notes to update us on today's news:

Two more car bombs exploded in Baghdad today, killing more than 12 Iraqi citizens and two peace keepers. Now that the population of Iraq has been whittled down to 2500 people, the peace keeping forces of the United States, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, France, Canada, The Netherlands, Germany, United Korea, Ireland, The Socialist Republic of Japan, Scotland, Quebec, The Native Peoples Democratic Republic of Yukon, California, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Papua-New Guinea .. have all decided that it's not really worth their while to remain in that country. A token force of some twenty Syrian soldiers will remain.

There have been reports of a sighting of Osama Bin Laden in a wheelchair in a Damascus gWendy'sh (Oooogh! .... that's my name !) --- but they seem to be unconfirmed at the time of writing.

And finally .. news that 107 year-old Sir Mick Jagger is announcing the gRolling Stonesh international gFare Thee Wellh tour today !

(It is also rumoured that he may well be announcing his engagement to 22 year-old Chinese supermodel Megan Dubrovnik – who is said to be carrying Sir Mick's 89th child ! Well done Mick – Viagra rules !)

Now – to our review:

1)The Environment

It has to be said that all is not well with ecology these days.

Global warming has been so awful for so long now !(Quite frankly - I can't see it improving...can you?)

The rising sea levels that devastated London, New York, Vancouver, Hamburg, Tokyo and just about everywhere in Holland just a few years ago, have to give us pause for thought. And such a shame about the London gUndergroundh and the New York Subway – venerable institutions, both ! But now, sadly, gone. Kaput ! You know. Terrible.

And the lives that were lost ! ...No – I don't want to talk about it.

As for the desertification of Mexico and Central America ... well ! Hasn't that been scary !

All those pooor refugees looking for work and food up here in the States ! My word – it's worse than it ever was before. Sad to say that, destitute or not – they have to realize we can't support them all ! They just have to support themselves – Good Heavens- we'll give them all the help we can!

(If things get much worse – I shall be off up to Canada myself ! That is, I would – if the Canadians weren't so damned selfish and objectionable to all those poor Texans and Southern Californians and others – who just want to make a decent life for themselves!)

And that asteroid that nearly creamed us a couple of years ago ! That was a close one, wasn't it ! They never told us about that !

But ... enough of this bad news – now let's look at Economic and Political Events ... (to Follow .....)


Yes ... Wendy will shortly be back .... :biggrin:

In the meantime,

Regards,

W

Thor
29-05-05, 04:28
Ok, here are the details for my execution program. I know this would seem very, very immoral right now. In a few decades, when we have massive overpopulation it may not.
People can either choose to die at the age of 70, or continue living at an expense that will be decided by the government. That would swiftly kick overpopulation's ass.
Or even better...
You will have your death at the age of 80, any stragglers will be killed along with the rest of the pack. Think of it as a way to stop overpopulation in its tracks. Sure it's depressing, and immoral but that'd be one the only ways to stop overpopulation. Or a massive nuclear war, biochemical war, or just massive war killing several billion people.

InnerVision
29-05-05, 23:19
http://www.qcwa.org/1953/02-blank.jpg

My Impression Of Future

~~ Draw whatever U Like ~~ :okashii:

Sensuikan San
29-05-05, 23:22
My word - That was clever !

And .. sadly ... probably so true !

Regards,

W

Ma Cherie
29-05-05, 23:22
http://www.qcwa.org/1953/02-blank.jpg

My Impression Of Future

~~ Draw whatever U Like ~~ :okashii:


Ummmmm.........please explain this to me. :clueless: I having one of those days where I don't know what people are talking about half the time.

Dutch Baka
29-05-05, 23:22
this means EMPTYNESS? or white rules? what do you mean with this? uuh M. Innervision

Sensuikan San
29-05-05, 23:24
C'mon guys !

He nailed it !

W

InnerVision
29-05-05, 23:35
Its Simple.

As we all Know that 'The Present' is Nothing but just Consequence of the things happened in 'The Past'

So Similarly,

'The Future' is nothing but 'll be just a Consequence of the things Happening right Now around You.

So, 'Draw whatever U like in the page of present to make a book of future. Thats It.

smoke
03-06-05, 14:51
Its Simple.

As we all Know that 'The Present' is Nothing but just Consequence of the things happened in 'The Past'

So Similarly,

'The Future' is nothing but 'll be just a Consequence of the things Happening right Now around You.

So, 'Draw whatever U like in the page of present to make a book of future. Thats It.
I see your point, and in a way agree with you.
But the consequence of the present is something closer than 50 years (with exceptions of major events/disasters of course).
For example, something that happens today (the present) will affect what happens tomorrow or even a week from now (future).

All in all, you are absolutely right...but the point of this post (as with the majority of my posts) are to learn of people's opinions and for them to be creative with their answers...to type what they believe.
In affect to observe their present and describe what they believe the future will hold.

but, like i said, you're absolutely right.

Tim33
04-06-05, 18:57
I recon that suicide rates will increase dramatically as everyone begins to get get sick and tired of all the stress that todays life gives. With communities of people becomming less friendly nobody will really give a damn about the people they know and so really have no excuse not to commit suicide.

With technology growing so fast people will so get sick and tired and no longer enjoy it. All goals that people want to reach would already of been completed yesturday so again the very meaning of there existance seems none.

Global warming will become more of a serious issue with some contries refusing to clean there acts up. Due to the survival of our race action will need to be taken in forcing these messures creating wars etc. Developing countries and countries that are very poor now will be the victim of this due to need to industrialize quickly and cheaply. These countries that have large, thick forests will need space to grow and so cut them down etc again leading to the above.

Rich countries will remain wealthy due to being so much more powerful then the current small countries that could overtake them. This wealth and technology will lead to a generation of extreamly lazy people that love food. Food is good and so is lazy so people will get fat and get fat fast. They will rely on small electric transport so they no longer have to walk. Due to it being cheap and clean it will be ideal.

People will generally die before they reach 30 or at least should do. Due to great achivements in medicine they will be kept alive in beds and fed through straws for the next 100 years as it would be wrong to let them die naturally.

Small terrorist countries will create a strong bio-weapon to spread disease throughout the US/Europe, with the huge population and lack of vaccines this will eventually spread to the rest of the world killing pretty much everyone. We will all die coughing and pukeing blood while our skin falls off.
If of course you have not already killed yourself for reasons stated earlier.

lexico
04-06-05, 19:07
Excellent imagination based on current-to-recent observations.
I enjoyed it more than 1984 or Brave New World.
Stupid people always get to the top and do crazy things... nice read, again. :p

Ma Cherie
05-06-05, 19:26
1984, that kind of pessimestic in my opinion. Winston didn't even succeed in finding out what it was like before his time. :kanashii: And Brave New World just pissed me off. :angryfire But I must admit, those authors had an interesting veiw of the future. My impression of the future was like that of Star Trek. :bluush:

Dutch Baka
05-06-05, 19:44
1984, that kind of pessimestic in my opinion. Winston didn't even succeed in finding out what it was like before his time. :kanashii: And Brave New World just pissed me off. :angryfire But I must admit, those authors had an interesting veiw of the future. My impression of the future was like that of Star Trek. :bluush:

i was more thinking of "TOTAL RECAL" LOL

smoke
05-06-05, 20:28
i was more thinking of "TOTAL RECAL" LOL
On a similar vein.
What about the running man?
How long before reality TV goes nuts and we are watching people being killed on television?
The Running Man. crappy 80's sci-fi or moderern day equivalent of Nostradamus?
Battle Royale. Crazy Jap splatter movie or possible means of decreasing the population?

With reality TV getting more and more wacky...I reckon these things will be happening in my lifetime (assuming i don't fall under a bus anytime soon!)

Ma Cherie
05-06-05, 20:42
Goodness, we all have pessemistic ideas about the future. :souka:

smoke
05-06-05, 20:47
Goodness, we all have pessemistic ideas about the future. :souka:
Yeah sorry, i'm a bit like that!
I always say, if you're pessismistic and something goes right, t's a pleasant surprise! :cool:

Ma Cherie
05-06-05, 20:55
Well, I find pessemism to be understandable. In a way, I feel that anyone who is pessemistic have a grasp of reality. Besides, past behavior predicts what can happen in the future. Sometimes, the reason why there is so much happening in the world, is because we has human beings are so used to conflict.

Tim33
05-06-05, 21:29
My impression of the future was like that of Star Trek. :bluush:


Hope so, that would make me definatly say yes on that immortal thread. Though i would probally spend my immortality on the holodeck. Or with my head between T'pol's boobies.

jarvis
05-06-05, 22:37
one world goverment
vanished oil supply
muslims get the nukes...

megeddo
heavan

InnerVision
06-06-05, 11:54
but the point of this post (as with the majority of my posts) are to learn of people's opinions and for them to be creative with their answers...to type what they believe.
In affect to observe their present and describe what they believe the future will hold.

With the above words in the back of mind & then Seeing the Following ....


one world goverment
vanished oil supply
muslims get the nukes...

megeddo
heavan

.... I'm Gonna make a 'Prophecy' here.

'Stress Ulcers' are going to be developed in the stomach or first part of the duodenum of 'the jarvis' in the very near future. <<< I'm sorry to say this but u know 'tis my professional obligation to warn the 'Patients' of the consequences of the risk factor & that too when the person is showing a type-A behaviour. :) *Geez*

Mycernius
06-06-05, 18:02
Hope so, that would make me definatly say yes on that immortal thread. Though i would probally spend my immortality on the holodeck. Or with my head between T'pol's boobies.
I'd spend my time between hers on one week and Seven of Nines on the other week and then alternate.
I do predict a world government. It is the way that the world will go. If we intend to go beyond this planet the only way would be for countries to co-operate and eventually become one to achieve this. A world government needn't be a bad thing.

smoke
06-06-05, 20:25
I'd spend my time between hers on one week and Seven of Nines on the other week and then alternate.
I do predict a world government. It is the way that the world will go. If we intend to go beyond this planet the only way would be for countries to co-operate and eventually become one to achieve this. A world government needn't be a bad thing.
I don't know about one world government...a europian union in the sense that one government would control europe is almost certain...but i can't see certain countries applying for one unified government. alleged 'terrorist' countries would not join alongside allied countries...so you may infact end up with a unified government but with 'rebel' countries forming their own government. so in effect becoming the 'enemies' of the allied government. and that is where world wars will come from. but then of course i'm sure you'll get impatial countries (as you do now) which may in effect, form a third pollitical group.
This is all pretty much on the assumption that the rich nations would be willing to share the wealth!

Ma Cherie
06-06-05, 21:16
:kanashii:
With the above words in the back of mind & then Seeing the Following ....



.... I'm Gonna make a 'Prophecy' here.

'Stress Ulcers' are going to be developed in the stomach or first part of the duodenum of 'the jarvis' in the very near future. <<< I'm sorry to say this but u know 'tis my professional obligation to warn the 'Patients' of the consequences of the risk factor & that too when the person is showing a type-A behaviour. :) *Geez*


You depress me. Do you think there will be a cure for cancer? What kind of technological advancements will mankind achieve? These are the things I also wonder about. :cool:

smoke
07-06-05, 14:34
:kanashii:


You depress me. Do you think there will be a cure for cancer? What kind of technological advancements will mankind achieve? These are the things I also wonder about. :cool:
I have heard shocking and unimaginable conspiracy theories on terminal illnesses like cancer.
It's a rumour that they have a cure (no offense to my US counterparts) in america but won't release it as they make too much money off of health care.
And also that aids was created by the american military (once again no offense) and bred in monkeys to be used as a biological weapon but they lost control over it and it spread...and that they have a cure but will not release it. either for the reason mentioned above or that they may have to admit a certain responsibility.

like i said, this is what i've heard and i am not bad mouthing the US.

Tim33
07-06-05, 16:08
I dont believe it but it would not surprise me.

Back during the coldwar bio-weaponary in America and Russia was a big thing and had incredable amounts of funding and projects going on.

smoke
09-06-05, 21:49
I dont believe it but it would not surprise me.

Back during the coldwar bio-weaponary in America and Russia was a big thing and had incredable amounts of funding and projects going on.
I hope for humanity's sake and for anyone who believes in good human nature that they aren't true!

lexico
09-06-05, 23:23
Admitting that analogies often prove bad, malicious slander, I cannot help recalling allegations that

1. internal combustion engines exceeding 25% efficiency were already studied and developed, but the major oil companies put a cap on it to maintain the high petrol sales and profits.

2. hydrogen based engines were ditto.

Biological-chemical-nuclear weapons are way too cheap in comparison to ignore. Genetically engineered cures are just too cheap in production quantities. But to reap maximum profits, it is better to feign technological difficulty selectively. Maintaining a minimum understanding of the principles and workings of these might help us from being fooled; let's hope so. ;-)

Ma Cherie
10-06-05, 05:24
I have heard shocking and unimaginable conspiracy theories on terminal illnesses like cancer.
It's a rumour that they have a cure (no offense to my US counterparts) in america but won't release it as they make too much money off of health care.
And also that aids was created by the american military (once again no offense) and bred in monkeys to be used as a biological weapon but they lost control over it and it spread...and that they have a cure but will not release it. either for the reason mentioned above or that they may have to admit a certain responsibility.

like i said, this is what i've heard and i am not bad mouthing the US.


I think it's just foolish rumors in my opinion, but then again who knows. There is so much that's hidden from the public.

Mycernius
10-06-05, 17:43
I think some things should be hidden from the public. I think it was in Men In Black when Toomy Lee Jones said to Will Smith 'A person is smart. People are dumb' or something similar (my memory is going). Even if they did release what really happened to JFK or what is really at area 51 some people will not believe them, because they are to caught up in their own little fantasy worlds. Other would be disappointed if the truth was not as exciting as they want to believe. Or in some cases it might cause chaos and confusion that would actually endanger people more than not knowing about it. Seriously, if our governments have had contact with Aliens (just an example) and told the rest of the world? Just imagine it, religious extremist would say they are from Satan, others would suffer a crisis in their faith. Nutters would think they were here to take over the world, others would want them to cure all their ills. If I was an Alien (and I have been accused of this many times) I wouldn't even want to talk to the governemnts, let alone joe public. I would just sit up in space watching you all, and maybe posting on websites, pretending I was human. I fact you could probably learn more about humans and how they interact with each other from forums like these than kidnapping them and giving them probes. :blush:

Ermac
10-06-05, 18:03
The world will get ALOT worse.

And worse in every possible aspect.

smoke
10-06-05, 23:52
I think some things should be hidden from the public. I think it was in Men In Black when Toomy Lee Jones said to Will Smith 'A person is smart. People are dumb' or something similar (my memory is going). Even if they did release what really happened to JFK or what is really at area 51 some people will not believe them, because they are to caught up in their own little fantasy worlds. Other would be disappointed if the truth was not as exciting as they want to believe. Or in some cases it might cause chaos and confusion that would actually endanger people more than not knowing about it. Seriously, if our governments have had contact with Aliens (just an example) and told the rest of the world? Just imagine it, religious extremist would say they are from Satan, others would suffer a crisis in their faith. Nutters would think they were here to take over the world, others would want them to cure all their ills. If I was an Alien (and I have been accused of this many times) I wouldn't even want to talk to the governemnts, let alone joe public. I would just sit up in space watching you all, and maybe posting on websites, pretending I was human. I fact you could probably learn more about humans and how they interact with each other from forums like these than kidnapping them and giving them probes. :blush:
and why do they always kidnap rednecks that no one believes?
Aliens must be pretty dumb...or very intelligent by knowing that no one would listen to these banjo playing, plaid wearing, buck toothed hicks.
http://www.tomservo.cc/show.aspx/redneck.gif

Dutch Baka
11-06-05, 00:16
and why do they always kidnap rednecks that no one believes?
Aliens must be pretty dumb...or very intelligent by knowing that no one would listen to these banjo playing, plaid wearing, buck toothed hicks.
http://www.tomservo.cc/show.aspx/redneck.gif


Yo smoke, you look pretty sexy in here :p

Ma Cherie
11-06-05, 02:17
Oh, goodness rednecks. :eek: I always wonder about the future. I know most relgious people believe in the Revelations. But ever since I read that book I never picked up another bible. (shutters) Or perhaps humans would kill each other with nuclear bombs and such. :p

InnerVision
11-06-05, 15:19
:kanashii:
You depress me. :

Huh ..? :souka: What ... ??:angryfire :banghead:

Cure for Cancer ::note:
1-Stop activation of 'Protoncogenes'.
2-Control the activity of 'Supressor Genes'

doesn't seem to be impossible that is after decoding the human genome. :souka:

It then gives a strong impression of monopoly( :romance: ) controlling the major advancements in many technological fields alongwith medicine.

Anyway ... to have good we need to hope for good. :-)

InnerVision
11-06-05, 22:38
I know most relgious people believe in the Revelations.

'wonder what are these regarding the tasks achieved by Jesus(as) after his return according to christian beliefs ... ?? & what are jews beliefs in this regard ??Can anyone put some light ... ?? (Just out of Curiosity,I wanna compare these with muslim beliefs ... :note:)

lexico
11-06-05, 23:08
I attended a half day seminar by biblical scholars and Revelations was one of the topics for lecture.

In summary fashion, apocalyptic literature in which Revelations was written was the chosen means of writing in obscure language one's religious convictions so as to avoid censorship and punishment. The period being Roman, any direct criticism on Roman paganism (polytheism worshipping non-Judeo-Chritian deities) would have surely sealed the fate of the religious text by confiscation and book burning, not to mention capital punishment of the author, copyists, and those in possession of it.

The ideas of 'orthodox' faith stated that no taxes be paid to the Roman empire lest some of it happen to be offered in the Roman pantheon. That would result in pagan worship for the tax payer, and could become a serious problem for the believers' standing before his/her God. This idea expressed in the Revelations is in contradiction of the gospel passage, 'To God what is God's, and to Caesar what is Caesar's.'

All kinds of obscuring codes were employed. One prominent example would be Armageddon. Megiddo is a well know battle ground in Hebrew history, and that could be refering to the coming Jewish war with Rome, less a prediction than an appeal to rebellion for the purpose of restoring the Rites of Jerusalem. This word play would have been immediately understood by the early Christians of which Jews composed the majority, but unintelligible to a gentile (non-Jew).

I do not know much more than this, and probably I have some inaccuracies; but there should be biblical studies on the web that should have more details and accuracy; a glimpse of which I hope I have conveyed to you in response to your very legitimate question.

edit: At least some part of Revelations may have been written after the two Judeo-Roman Wars, and Armageddon could be referring to those wars as if predicting the Wars, but in fact in hind sight. But this is just my opinion that seems to explain references to the war, judgement and destruction, and a new creation and resurrection of the dead that early Christians are known to have believed in.

Out of curiosity, what references to the last war before the destruction and judgement exist in Islamic texts of faith ? Is there anything that might be considered apocalyptic writing ?

InnerVision
12-06-05, 01:40
what references to the last war before the destruction and judgement exist in Islamic texts of faith ?

Note:Following post is just in reply to above quest.

these wars can be divided into 2 parts.

1-before Jesus's(as) return
2-during his stay ( against Dajjal & Yajooj majjoj >> anti-christ & gog magoog respectively) after that there is a TOTAL PEACE on Earth till the other signs appear.

Important point to note is that with his(as) return , the conflicts between Muslims & Christians (according to some resources Jews are included aswell) would come to an end.

alot of Islamic material on 'End of Times' is available in the form of 'Minor & Major Signs' ( not the wars only)i.e. before Qiamat__dooms day,though it wouldn't be offtopic to put it here but still i wouldn't by my own.

(Lexico ... ! I will PM u after organizing the material provided u r willing enough.) :-)

& plz. everyone throw some light on Jewish & Christian belief regarding Hazrat Issa(as)__Jesus' return.

Miss_apollo7
12-06-05, 02:12
I am not a Muslim, so please forgive me if my readings have been mistaken...(also, it is late here in Denmark: time: 2:04AM --coming back from drinking with friends....)

According to Islam, Adam and Eve were moved from Paradise to "Earth" because they insulted Allahfs word, however, life on earth is not regarded as a punishment, as horiginal sinh doesnft exist in Islam.

Allah created earth and he can end it, conduct punishment and rewards to peolple anytime He wants it.

The dead peoplefs resurrection on hjudgement dayh is very central in the Quran. According to the Quran, God will on hjudgement dayh order all the graves opened and the dead resurrected.
In the Jewish eschatology, there is a uncertainly if the resurrection is partial or total ie. only for the deserved ones. In Islam, all with resurrect.(?)

On judgement day, all the deeds of the human will be weighed on a scale, called mizan(sp?), and God wil judge.
Djanah, or Paradise, which is described in the Quran (2,26) and (50, 32-46) is a happy place. Those who get there first are the Shuhada(sp?), the martyrs. The non-believers will end in Hell/djahannam.

We will know that judgement day will arrive soon when the Messias, the Mehdi (sp?) has come to Jerusalem and lived there for 10 years, then a rival will come (Antikrist) and perform false miracles - e.g. heal the sick. The "antikrist" will get many followers and afterwards Jesus will be sent to "clean out" and fight against the "antikrist." Judgement day will come when Jesus has won and conquers the world from Palestine.

Shin_ji80
12-06-05, 04:03
Just hope not to offence anyone. I am sorry if I said something that I shouldnft say. Anyway, I think World War 3 is coming. I donft want to admit this but this is what I think most of the time. It is very obvious that after the gcold warh ends, another new threat coming out (terrorism). What's coming up next after terrorism ends? As everyone can see that natural resources are becoming lessor and lessor (exp. oil). The countries that store these natural resources will have all the power they want. Yes, money and power to control over other weaker and poor countries.

Of course, no one wants to be control and let go of the politic positions. So, the next thing will happen is World War 3.

This is just 1 of the thing that I can think of. The other one isc.the future will be full of thugs every where. Well, as you can see the children today are badly educated and lack of moral value. A lot of criminals happened everywhere and there are no safe places to live in. They will just do anything they want as long as they achieve what they want. Yes, back to money again. No one wants to work because itfs a hard work. All they want is easy money. So, girls will go on prostitution or married to rich guys, guys will go rob, kill, steal and stuff. All people have in mind is money. Money comes first. They already forget who they are and their responsibility. Sad worldcc

lexico
12-06-05, 04:20
What an awakenig post: I was about to go for a snack, but couldn't pass on this one Shin ji180. Just some lingering thoughts that your post encouraged to come out in a personal way.

1. Although it may be called superstition, does anyone remember hearing, 'It's all in the mind that makes it happen.' I'm not talking about will power over oneself or self-fulfilling prophecies that can be explained more or less scientifically. I'm aiming at superstitious realization of negative thinking. Do such a thing exist ? Or will the warning, well taken, become the catalyst for crucial changes that will guarantee survival without mutual destruction ?

2. Your post makes a lot of sense in that I remember hearing those warnings somewhere sometime although not in such clear, complete form. Which leads me to ask, "Since the greatest change in people's minds can be brought about thru education, isn't it about time to start discouraging nationalism and reinforcing altruism, not an idealistic-unrealistic kind of altruism, but that of a co-existence that can only be reached thru an organized effort such as thru the UN general assembly voted compulsory curriculum on global coexistence ?"

People used to wonder whether environmental awareness could be reached, but thru education we now have many young people genuinely motivated for environmental protection and sustainable societry out of a sincere, shared belief that it is something vastly important for survival. How about searching for ways to transform our crooked ways of thinking and excercise limited, planned, aggressive exploitation principles reserved for the space program but illegalizing it on earth with increasing magnitude ?

cicatriz esp
12-06-05, 10:44
The future will be affected by population rates: In 100 years, Japan is predicted to have roughly half to 2/3 the population it has now. The population of the US is predicted to increase by about 100 million people, mostly through immigration but also by births. Globally this will bring about the following phenomenon: dissappearance of the middle class, leaving only the rich and poor. And you know what that leads to.

lexico
12-06-05, 10:58
How do you mean ? Slavery ? Class struggle ? Communist revolution ? Civil war ? More details please. :)

Mycernius
12-06-05, 11:30
I think Cicatriz esp is refering to the low birth rates that are apparent in a lot of western countries now. The world population as a whole will continue to increase because of African and a lot of Asian countries high birth rate, but in the west the population is in decline. In advanced technological countries the population is living longer and more and more young people are putting off getting maried and having children until later in life. In some cases the younger generation are not having children, hence the birth rate goes down. Even with immigration the population will still decrease because the 3rd or 4th generation of immigrants will start to follow the practices in the countries in which they live and not to the customs of their origins.

smoke
12-06-05, 14:40
Yo smoke, you look pretty sexy in here :p
I work out. :p

cicatriz esp
12-06-05, 22:25
How do you mean ? Slavery ? Class struggle ? Communist revolution ? Civil war ? More details please. :)

Class struggle. Unless the masses can continue to be sedated with McDonalds, MTV, and Tommy Hilfiger.

I can't believe I just typed something so bleeding heart. :okashii:

Miss_apollo7
13-06-05, 01:01
I hope my earlier post wan't gibberish....Maybe Innervision can tell if it is true or misunderstood, as foresights in Islam is not something I am an expert on since I am not a Muslim, but read tonnes about it.... :-)

InnerVision
13-06-05, 19:30
when the Messias, the Mehdi (sp?)

messiah = One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=messias)

Only in literal meanings Imam Mehdi can be taken as Messiah but in actuality this term is reserved for Hazrat Issa(as) in Islamic literature.

...remaining was O.K. but i must state that ur knowledge about Islamic stuff is good.
(still in case u wanna be more precise about that u can ask ... i'll be concentrating on that after my ward test .... )

Till then check this The End Times (http://www.harunyahya.com/c_jesus_will_return.php) ( Think 'Tis more than enough. still all questions r welcomed) No doubt it is intersting to read future. :relief:

InnerVision
13-06-05, 19:54
I can't believe I just typed something so bleeding heart.

Yeah ... we just felt the warmth of the blood of that warm-blooded bleeding heart. *Geez* :-)

Miss_apollo7
14-06-05, 14:33
messiah = One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=messias)

Only in literal meanings Imam Mehdi can be taken as Messiah but in actuality this term is reserved for Hazrat Issa(as) in Islamic literature.

...remaining was O.K. but i must state that ur knowledge about Islamic stuff is good.
(still in case u wanna be more precise about that u can ask ... i'll be concentrating on that after my ward test .... )


Thanks Innervision!! I studied Arabic language (and its culture) ages ago while at uni extensively taking extra classes during my thesis period (history).... :cool: Still keeping up-to-date with the language whenever I can.

f0rk0
20-06-05, 23:53
Movie Brazil has it all.

isayhello
21-06-05, 13:40
The future will be like Star Wars. The OLD episodes, mind you. I don't want a computer-animated Yoda or some pretty boy Anakin. No, the old movies... with Chewwie and Solo and the good old starcruisers.

I can't wait for the future!

:okashii:

Dutch Baka
21-06-05, 18:13
in 200 years, maybe less the sun is to hot, the ozon layer is gone!!! so it means we need to live underground, undersea, or other worlds.. well this will happen... but not everybody will have money to go there... so i think around 90% of the population will die

people wont come to the surface.. and factorys will work differnt then now.. it means no destrong of the earth, and the earth can come back in its nature earth.. ozon layer grow.. etc etc... so that in 600 years. people can come on the surface again...

mmm something like this hahaha

Miss_apollo7
25-06-05, 00:00
Who gave me a bad rep. point for me posting in this thread??? Come on, wherever you are!!

I was just informing about what I have read about Islam. I am not a Muslim, but just posting my understandings from my readings about this religion.

I think it is wrong to just give bad rep because of INFORMING people from an individual's readings...I didn't even give an opinion....This discourages me to even take the time to look into books from now on!!

And I am sure this discourages people from reading books and post their summary of their readings....

Duo
27-06-05, 02:29
Miss apollo, I see you're also a victim of anonymus bad rep pionts. I fully agree with you, if you are gonna bad rep or even good rep smone just put your name, dont hide yourself, and why are you bad reping about something like that ? Really makes you annoyed. Plz dont stop reading, I'm sure that all the other members here appreciate very much your contribution and your knoweldege of different fields :), dont let some weirdo annoy you :cool:

Sensuikan San
27-06-05, 03:09
Miss Appollo ...

Sorry to see you got the "bad" rep. point! You have my sympathy.

Sadly, that seems to smack of bigotry and cowardice on behalf of someone out there. I may be wrong ... but I have a suspicion as to whom it might be - given the subject matter.

Let's just see if I get one myself .... for this post !

Then ... we'll know !

With Sympathy

W

Maciamo
27-06-05, 05:24
50 years ahead is too difficult to predict for me. It would be more interesting to try to forsee the world in 5 or 10 years. That's difficult enough. But there are so many unforseeable events (tsunami, earthquakes, etc.) that thing could go very differently.

For example, a major earthquake in Tokyo could prompt a world recession like in 1929 as Japan is the world's 2nd economy, has most of its fortune centered in Tokyo (all government, most company's HQ, 1/4 of the population...). Japan would need to withdraw its reserves in US$ to rebuilt Tokyo, making the US$ crash and the US economy with it, bringing the rest of the world along. China would survive as most of its exports go to Japan and the US, and most of the companies investing there are American and Japanese. Europe would also be hit as the US and EU control about half of each other's economy through currency reserves and investments.

Within the next 5 years, I could imagine that the US will have invaded Iran and maybe Syria. The North Korean regime will certainly fall within 5 or 10 years. Could come from inside though, once Kim Jong Il dies (assassinated ?) or is thrown to the garbage.

The Chinese yuan will progressively be reevaluated in about 5 and 10 years, making Chinese people richer. There will be more and more Chinese tourists worldwide, and more Chinese learning English because English-speaking business people don't feel like learning Chinese (same as with Japanese).

The US$ will keep going down to counterbalance the cheap Chinese yuan, making American people poorer internationally.

There will be some big changes in the EU, with probably an permanent president (even without Constitution).

India will have more demographic problem than China as they are not yet controlling birthrate efficiently.

Peace might eventually break out in Israel.

Jack
27-06-05, 10:40
Miss apollo, I see you're also a victim of anonymus bad rep pionts. I fully agree with you, if you are gonna bad rep or even good rep smone just put your name, dont hide yourself, and why are you bad reping about something like that ? Really makes you annoyed. Plz dont stop reading, I'm sure that all the other members here appreciate very much your contribution and your knoweldege of different fields :), dont let some weirdo annoy you :cool:


well this is bad, i shall admit that i gave "duo" bad rep points for a post that was made in my thread " marriage for visa", but i see his point of view now, and im sorry for the bad rep points.
But its cowardice bad repping someone and not even telling them your doing it.

Duo
27-06-05, 16:08
well this is bad, i shall admit that i gave "duo" bad rep points for a post that was made in my thread " marriage for visa", but i see his point of view now, and im sorry for the bad rep points.
But its cowardice bad repping someone and not even telling them your doing it.

hehhe, thx for your honesty, i figured it was you seeing as your post on that thread and the negative rep were only 1min apart in time, but no worries your rep doesn't affect me because you don't have sufficient posts to make your reps count yet, but props to you for being forthcoming ;)

InnerVision
27-06-05, 18:14
hey ... Check this ... !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/sage182/Speed-3.jpg

Just appreciate the speed , velocity, the dedication & above all The Courage ... :D

'think someone didn't like Miss apollo's interest about other culture i.e. Islamic. :-) Wow ... !!! I'm out 0f words.

Anyway ... one must at least give a reason for givin' bad rep.If not the name ... :-) 'hope the future of this forum will make it essential :)

Mycernius
27-06-05, 20:18
in 200 years, maybe less the sun is to hot, the ozon layer is gone!!! so it means we need to live underground, undersea, or other worlds.. well this will happen... but not everybody will have money to go there... so i think around 90% of the population will die

people wont come to the surface.. and factorys will work differnt then now.. it means no destrong of the earth, and the earth can come back in its nature earth.. ozon layer grow.. etc etc... so that in 600 years. people can come on the surface again...

mmm something like this hahaha
Oh great. We will split. Eloi and the Morlocks. I'm going to move to another planet :p

Dutch Baka
27-06-05, 23:09
Well it is sure the Weather will **** our world... well we **** the world its weather .... here is a small map of increasing and degreesing temperatures from the last 100 years , Avarage.
http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/media/archive/2695.jpg

i read something a week ago , i forget to read it good, and now i am not able to find it anymore... it was about that in the south it is getting hotter, and dryer, while in the norther country's it is getting colder... so would it be posible like in the movie : the day after tommorow? ( not in 5 weeks time of course.. Stupid unreal 5 weeks movie) but like 10-50 years time? would it be the explanation of the Ice time? that the world is getting warmer.. ( or does all of this doesnt make sence? maybe somebody else know more about it

Mycernius
28-06-05, 17:50
Okay, one of my current bug bears is climate change and how it will effect us all. The problem I have with this is that the scientists say one thing One week and then say something that contradicts it a few weeks later and no-one questions it. For example several studies have shown that the Gulf stream might change and not reach the UK. This means that the British Isles will get colder, yet several weeks ago some Scottish researchers have seen basking sharks further north, thus indicating that the water is getting warmer. How, if the gulf stream is getting weaker? No-one seeed to question it, just excepted the findings. I admit the is climate change, but no-one seems to know what is natural and what is caused by man.
63 million years ago the planet was hotter and had a much higher Carbon dioxide content, yet life flourished. There were dinosaurs living in Antartica, and that hasn't moved that much in the last 63 million years. The planet is currently coming out of a cold phase, so some global temperature are natural. I find a lot of the climate change lobby to be scaremonger, after all the weather systems on a planetary scale are immense and beyond anything we can accurately predict. I remember seeing one computer prediction on global temperatures and what they should be. If there was no pollution then The UK should be as hot as the Sahara. Go figure

Pachipro
28-06-05, 18:05
One thing we know for sure Mycernius is that we don't know whether man is causing climate change. I mean how many years has man been keeping records? 100? 200 at most? How old is the earth? 4 billion years old?

When I hear that that "this is the hottest summer on record", or "record rainfall has fallen for the second straight year in Europe" for example, I ask myself whose records? The last 200 years? What about the previous 3,999,999,800 years? How do we know that the earth was not much warmer or colder? Scientists can only speculate based on archeological evidence. And even that method has been questioned by some.

In the end we do not know what is normal for this planet as weather comes in cycles. It has even been proved that the Sphinx in Egypt shows signs of erosion due to rainfall maybe 15,000 years ago and that the Sahara desert was once fertile ground. Man has survived and will continue to do so. ANd as you pointed out, there was much more CO2 in the air in ancient times than today. Hogwash and fearmongering if you ask me. The truth is even the scientific community doesn't know what is causing the global climate change. They are just throwing out answers to make themselves look important and needed when in fact it is a normal function of the earth itself IMO.

lexico
28-06-05, 18:23
climate change ... the scientists say one thing One week and then say something that contradicts it a few weeks later ...For example several studies have shown that the Gulf stream might change and not reach the UK. This means that the British Isles will get colder, yet several weeks ago some Scottish researchers have seen basking sharks further north, thus indicating that the water is getting warmer. How, if the gulf stream is getting weaker ? No-one seeed to question it, just excepted the findings.I see your point, Mike. There seem to be two aspects to scientists; what they represent and what they actually do. What some people find ironic about scienctific authority is the misconception (delusion) that it carries a far greater weight and assertiveness than science is actually capable of. Perhaps to counter the other false assertiveness that's been wielded by certain 'religious' sects and superstitious orgs ? That false assertiveness can be a major problem because it can go against what science is supposed to be and what science actually is. Most students in a scientific field or scientists themselves might not have such a huge ego blown out of proportion, but some outspoken ones are blatantly arrogant-- totally unscientific and authoritarian power mongers who deserve to have their name struck out of all reputable science circles. Politics in scientific communities is rather ugly; and the researcher's salary doesn't pay that well either, at least so I hear.
I admit the is climate change, but no-one seems to know what is natural and what is caused by man.Interesting topic. When the two factors of long-term trends in climate and human-induced change are involved simlutaneously, how could anyone know exactly what part's been played by whom ? Widely varying depending on one's scientific assumptions ! <== that's an oxymoron btw :evil:
63 million years ago the planet was hotter and had a much higher Carbon dioxide content, yet life flourished. There were dinosaurs living in Antartica, and that hasn't moved that much in the last 63 million years. The planet is currently coming out of a cold phase, so some global temperature are natural. I find a lot of the climate change lobby to be scaremonger, after all the weather systems on a planetary scale are immense and beyond anything we can accurately predict. I remember seeing one computer prediction on global temperatures and what they should be. If there was no pollution then The UK should be as hot as the Sahara. Go figureI haven't been following on the details as you have, Mike. I guess the scientists, at least the honest, smarter ones, are scratching their heads at the end of a Friday, and mumbling to themselves. Oh, time to go home ! I'll leave nature's mystery to nature herself and just enjoy my weekend. I'm no god; I'm just a slave scientist stuck in the UK. :(
The thing is there are just so many independent and dependent variables that no single workable theory can possibly handle all those in a time sequence. Not the latest, fatest parallel computer can do the thing. The best they can do is to 'experiment' with various simplifying, reasonably manageable models and run simulations. In the final analsysis: Nature is the fastest supercomputer as fas as many-body problems go ! If the simulations doesn't live up to expectations, oh, well, a man~na, or till next week ! :embarasse

Maciamo
30-06-05, 04:44
http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/media/archive/2695.jpg


If this map is anywhere near the truth, then global warming may not be such a bad thing. Russia and Canada will get warmer (=more comfortable to live), places like Nigeria, India and the south-east USA a bit cooler (also good), while Europe will almost not change at all. The only worrying thing is the rise of the ocean's level.

Jack
30-06-05, 11:56
hey ... Check this ... !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/sage182/Speed-3.jpg

Just appreciate the speed , velocity, the dedication & above all The Courage ... :D

'think someone didn't like Miss apollo's interest about other culture i.e. Islamic. :-) Wow ... !!! I'm out 0f words.

Anyway ... one must at least give a reason for givin' bad rep.If not the name ... :-) 'hope the future of this forum will make it essential :)


this is a bit far gone isn't it,
that much in that short space of time.

DGS_VEX
30-06-05, 17:31
china will invade taiwan in 10-20 years from now. taiwan will declare independence. taiwan btw is not as weak as you think, to my knowledge they have 1-3 million in reserves. but i think its 3.

statistics show the US can move any fleet in the world in 2 weeks. statistics show china doest have the correct ratio of amphibious vehicles to lauch a proper invasion. and statistics show china's navy sucks like hell. mostly steampowered, buggy-navy ships and no aircraft carriers while the US has enough aircraft+supercarriers to match the carriers from the rest of the world.

btw i dont hate china or anything. its just something i pick up.

Void
30-06-05, 18:33
If this map is anywhere near the truth, then global warming may not be such a bad thing. Russia and Canada will get warmer (=more comfortable to live), places like Nigeria, India and the south-east USA a bit cooler (also good), while Europe will almost not change at all. The only worrying thing is the rise of the ocean's level.

and melting ever-frost layer, and new marshes in Siberia, and quite a time to substitute dying pine forests of northern area with other flore through successions... and so on :D

besides, we measure all from anthropomorphous point of view, and therefore there will be also great impact in economic and social life as well in this case

Climate changes, but, probably, not that rapidly and drastically as some would like to represent it

Mycernius
30-06-05, 19:38
Not being a doom ladened, cynical person, but just to point out that the Sun is expanding as part of it's natural progress. In several million years time the surface will be warmer and there is nothing that we can do to stop it. Unless someone here is a stellar engineer.
I do object to people saying that an asteroid hitting the earth, or a super volcano, or any other disaster will be the end of the world. No, it will not. It might destroy all humans (on X-box and PS2 :D ) and maybe millions of other species, but mother nature bounces back. She has done in the past and will again in the future. To me the end of the world means destroying the planet and reducing it to rubble.

Void
30-06-05, 19:53
who knows, maybe, by the times when Sun to turn into red giant we will find our way to the other planets outside the Solar system (if won`t destroy ourselves long before this and swarming insects won`t take our place as a collective intelligence) :D

Mycernius
30-06-05, 19:59
who knows, maybe, by the times when Sun to turn into red giant we will find our way to the other planets outside the Solar system (if won`t destroy ourselves long before this and swarming insects won`t take our place as a collective intelligence) :D

The bees will become the Borg :D

Duo
30-06-05, 21:12
china will invade taiwan in 10-20 years from now. taiwan will declare independence. taiwan btw is not as weak as you think, to my knowledge they have 1-3 million in reserves. but i think its 3.

statistics show the US can move any fleet in the world in 2 weeks. statistics show china doest have the correct ratio of amphibious vehicles to lauch a proper invasion. and statistics show china's navy sucks like hell. mostly steampowered, buggy-navy ships and no aircraft carriers while the US has enough aircraft+supercarriers to match the carriers from the rest of the world.

btw i dont hate china or anything. its just something i pick up.

I find it unlikely that two giants of trading would say bye to their benefits and get into a war for the independence of an island the size of taiwan. The USA and USSR didn't blast each other when Europe and the rest of the world was teh game in town so I don't think taiwan will be such a big of an issue.

lonesoullost3
30-06-05, 22:13
Well in the short term of these coming 50 years, something major will happen with North Korea. Honestly, if we keep getting warheads into office in America then I can easily forsee a pre-emptive strike against North Korea. If this is the case, I think it would be awfully close to Iraq - we know they have a nuclear program, but whether they actually have missiles or not is the issue (sound familiar???). Anyways, the aftermath of that will affect East Asia and trade relationships greatly. China, of course, will become an epicenter of new business - if it can weed out the corruption. Until then, business will grow, yes, but much slower than if the corruption was done away with. Meanwhile, the EU will grow bigger despite the constitution's problems as of right now. On America's side - we'll go into more debt in recent years, but hopefully someone will realize that we need to repair our international ties and strengthen our bond with the entirety of the EU - not just the UK. In other words, on economic levels countries will become more tightly integrated with each other.

At a tech level - there will be some semblance of a "smart house" appliance in every household and the internet will be far more widespread than it is now (it's not as widespread as most people would like to think). Wireless will become the one and only (forget grounded wires except for super fast transfer speeds, like OC3 lines), and as a result there will be a greater communication network within and between countries. Transportation will also accelerate - some industry will arise to challenge the airline industry OR the airline industry will undergo a MAJOR change.

Socially, despite the efforts of the UN and other philanthropist countries, there will be a growing gap between the poor and rich in industrialized and industrializing countries Overall, everyone's welfare will increase, but the gap will be there nonetheless. This will spark a new period of protests and reforms. This would probably occur at the end of the 50 years. Which makes sense because that would place it just about a century after the 60s. If you look back on history, there seems to be a global major protest and reform period once a century: the 1960s, 1840s, various religious changes through the mid 1700s in Europe and Asian empires began to undergo fundamental changes in the same period)

Hm...that's about all I can think of.

DGS_VEX
01-07-05, 16:45
OC3's are the way to go. piracy rate up 400%

OC99999999999 everything on the net is free and everything gets around the world in 1 min.

cycle
20-07-11, 10:46
People will realise that global warming is not going to happen.
The population will rise.
Oil production will slow down.
Food will become scarce.
Starvation will result in wars.
Whole countries will be wiped out.
Genicide will happen ona major scale.
When the population has returned to a sustainable level governments will realise the mistakes.

Reinaert
21-07-11, 17:47
I can think of a lot of scenario's.

1) Within 10 years some Great Power will rule the seas.
American Aircraft Carriers will be treated as sitting ducks.

2) There will be a global up-rise against capitalism. The main idea is fair trade.
Bubble speculations will be doomed.

3) There will grow a wide spread cultural uplifting. People share knowledge, big companies are out. Decentralized micro business will become the main driving factor in economy. It's happening already!

4) Africa will be the food production continent. Take Libya as an example. Even today Libya can produce a lot of food.
The only problem is, Africa needs transportation facilities.
I guess Libya is under fire, because they are rivals of the USA food companies.

5) There will be a democratization of the media. A consequence of point 3)
Wikileaks, the Murdock media imperium, the Berlusconi imperium, they all show that the media are owned and controlled by conservative capitalist tycoons. And they have nothing to do with the freedom of speech!

If I think of more scenario's, I will post them. Enough thinking for now.

Reinaert
21-07-11, 17:49
china will invade taiwan in 10-20 years from now. taiwan will declare independence. taiwan btw is not as weak as you think, to my knowledge they have 1-3 million in reserves. but i think its 3.

statistics show the US can move any fleet in the world in 2 weeks. statistics show china doest have the correct ratio of amphibious vehicles to lauch a proper invasion. and statistics show china's navy sucks like hell. mostly steampowered, buggy-navy ships and no aircraft carriers while the US has enough aircraft+supercarriers to match the carriers from the rest of the world.

btw i dont hate china or anything. its just something i pick up.


Well.. This is totally obsolete already!

The USA has huge problems to invest in modern naval detection systems.
In other words.. Submarines are getting smarter every day!

I remember submariners saying.. "On the seas are only submarines, and targets!"

himagain
29-01-12, 03:12
I think that perhaps in 50 years the world might possibly begin building a space elevator.

L.D.Brousse
12-03-12, 15:45
The Fall of Western Culture and all we hold dear. While we slept

robocopp
13-03-12, 23:05
fantastico !

Riccardo
14-03-12, 17:56
My impression? As every age, with all the differences, the future present will be harder for sensible people, easier for people who don't care about the future. This is relative to everyone of us.

morris045
04-06-13, 09:17
One of my idea in Future that many of car will surely be flying and seem for me a good thing if in future car will be something like that.

Cambrius (The Red)
13-06-13, 04:46
Trains that go 500 miles per hour.

oriental
13-06-13, 21:13
In the 80s the media promised us leisure as work would be reduced by robots and we would be paid the same for less hours. Hmm, what a lot of bull. Now they are talking about designer babies. Hmm, talk about patenting human genes. Foresee any problems? The media is run by a vicious clique. Look at the unemployment and the poor guy who went into a clinic trusting that his genes would be analyzed and help find a cure. Instead the "scientists" patented his genes. Talk of breach of trust.

kouider
08-07-13, 10:29
The future no one knows except God

Tone
24-07-13, 19:41
The singularity.

Lamonica Detweiler
31-08-16, 08:17
Its difficult to predict about the future and even about vast changes in technology. Although, a flying car is a good idea and will be the best solution to traffic problems everywhere. I just hope it will materialize soon.

juliakate
08-05-17, 15:31
It is great thread useful for me

Dr Daniel Junglehart
30-05-18, 03:50
A caste system where a upper tier fights through intellectual persuits to gain access to the high class gene pool harem and a under level that gets tested on with alien viruses and technologies to improve life above.