Tokis-Phoenix
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A simple poll/thread, do you feed the wild birds in your garden/home or town/park etc and what are your concerns regarding bird flu right now?
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You shouldn't feed wild birds, anyway. That helps only the weak individuals to survive & eventually weakens the whole population.Tokis-Phoenix said:A simple poll/thread, do you feed the wild birds in your garden/home or town/park etc and what are your concerns regarding bird flu right now?
bossel said:You shouldn't feed wild birds, anyway. That helps only the weak individuals to survive & eventually weakens the whole population.
For the rest I generally agree with Frank, it's simply blown out of proportion. To declare a state of disaster on an island, just because some dozens of birds died of bird flu (as happened in Germany), is ridiculous.
See, that's where you're wrong. Just because they come to you to be fed, doesn't mean that it's good for the species. The only "good" reason to feed birds is an exceptionally cold winter.Tokis-Phoenix said:i must be doing somthing good if i am supplying food for the species of birds that really need it
I hope so, although it's not necessary for people's health.I wonder if with all the bird flu hype that millions of people who feed wild birds will also stop because of the fears in a similar situation as the beef crisis.
Cats can, dogs can't. But that doesn't mean that cats can infect someone. Probably, just like humans, they can be carriers but not transmitters.They even say now that domesticated cats can carry the desease,
How exactly can it be bad for the species if it already scavenges to a certain extent naturally anyway?bossel said:See, that's where you're wrong. Just because they come to you to be fed, doesn't mean that it's good for the species. The only "good" reason to feed birds is an exceptionally cold winter.
You provide food that else wouldn't be there. What's more, you always do it at the same place so that they don't have to look very much for it. You provide a steady food source that otherwise wouldn't exist & help birds to survive which otherwise would perhaps die or at least weren't able to breed.Tokis-Phoenix said:How exactly can it be bad for the species if it already scavenges to a certain extent naturally anyway?
bossel said:You provide food that else wouldn't be there. What's more, you always do it at the same place so that they don't have to look very much for it. You provide a steady food source that otherwise wouldn't exist & help birds to survive which otherwise would perhaps die or at least weren't able to breed.
& that's a good reason to make it worse?Tokis-Phoenix said:we have already interfered with their natural way of life already to a great extent and messed up natural selection anyway.
Agreed, but I doubt that your way is right.if a bird species goes extinct due to a human influence then i think its up to us to try and save it before it does because its our fault in the first place for its declining.
To compare your garden to a wildlife reserve is a bit pompous (unless your garden is much bigger than I think it is).Do you think its wrong that people create wildlife researves specifically to feed and create homes/breeding sites for a particular animal/s?
The essence is very different, because in a reserve the birds have to find their food themselves & natural selection applies. There are no "bird lovers" around who think they need some nice colourful singers in their backyard (& beware of those evil [insert your favourite predator here]!).Because in essence, its no different in concept to sticking up a bird nest box or feeder/table in your garden.
Ooh, a lot of "bird lovers" there.The RSPB and other charitys/wildlife and researve companys and BBC website strongly supports the general public doing such acts for the benefet of wildlife
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